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1891 England Census
about Louisa Wooding
Name: Louisa Wooding
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Gender: Female
Where born: Bedford, Bedfordshire, England

Civil parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: Stamford Hill
ED, institution, or vessel: 12

Louisa Wooding 23 (Single)

She is an Inmate at .....Salvation Army Home. "Grove House".

?? I wonder if this is Louisa's mother?

Marriages Mar 1891
Tripp William Bedford 3b 527
Wooding Abigail Bedford 3b 527
...........
1891 census transcription details for: Harrold Cottages, Somers Town, Bedford Eastern Ward, Kempston
RG number: RG12
Piece: 1250
Folio: 102
Page: 39
Reg. District: Bedford
Sub District: Bedford and Kempston
Parish: Bedford Eastern Ward
Enum. District: 20
Ecclesiastical District: Kempston
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Harrold Cottages, Somers Town, Bedford Eastern Ward, Kempston
County: Bedfordshire

TRIPP, William H Head Married M 30 1861 General Labourer
St Lukes, London
TRIPP, Abigail Wife Married F 25 1866 Dressmaker
Marston, Bedfordshire
WOODING, Maria Mother In Law Widow F 49 1842 Washerwoman
Marston, Bedfordshire
WOODING, Louisa Daughter F 5 1886 Scholar
Ampthill, Bedfordshire

..........
William and Abigail seem to split up before 1901.
1901 England Census about Abignal Crawley
Name: Abignal Crawley
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Richard Crawley
Gender: Female
Where born: Maerton, Bedfordshire, England
Civil parish: Bedford St Paul
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Bedford
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Bedford
Sub-registration district: Bedford and Kempston
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 27
Piece: 1490
Folio: 49
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Crawley 35
Abignal Crawley 32
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1490; Folio: 49; Page: 4
............
1911 England Census about Abagail Tripp
Name: Abagail Tripp
Age in 1911: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation to Head: House Keeper
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Marston
Civil parish: Bedford
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England
Street Address: 7 Brace Street, Bedford
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: House Keeper
Registration district: Bedford
Registration District Number: 174
Sub-registration district: Bedford and Cardington
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 31
Piece: 8872
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Crawley 44
Abagail Tripp 43
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 8872; Schedule Number: 31

Maureen

are you sure about the dates you've just given?

this one matches the dates on the 1901

1911 census

Address: 16a Three Mill Lane Bromley E

HOLMES, William Arthur Head Married M 40 1871 Iron Moulder Stanstead Essex
HOLMES, Louisa Wife Married F 38 1873 Marston Bedfordshire
HALL, Daisy Adopted F 8 1903 School New Castle England

>>edit it doesn't say the number of years married, no children born to marriage

Could someone check if there is census information for 1911 for William Arthur Holmes (born 1879) and Louisa Holmes (nee Wooding) born 1885.

Many thanks

Mary, The 1911 census was the last census that has been made available,

The census's have a 100 year closure

The 1921 is the next one to be made available but will not be released untill 2022

Roy

sorry for the 1902 it was Louisa Hislop.

I think you are right the information from Maureen looks like it might be what I am looking for. I think I should get the marriage certificate for both 1902 Matthew Hislop to Louisa Wooding and then their child's marriage certificate John Muir to Louisa Hislop .

Louisa Hislop born 1 November 1902 and John Muir married in 1924 and had 5 children (all Muir)

Louisa Mary born 5 July 1923, she has the address listed as 12 Court 3 Brearley St, Birmingham (this cert I have)

Barbara (who I believe died only a few months old)

Teeny born c1932

John born c1933

Mary born 11 August 1937 in Beith, Ayrshire, Scotland

If anyone had any census information on this family group that would be really helpful as I didn't realise how interesting that was until I read Maureen's post - thanks. Looks like the boarder and the niece got together. Do you think her (Louisa Wooding born 1885 parents had died then?

Thanks to everyone so far for your help

If Matthew was louisa's father then the marriage posted by MaureeninNY looks to be correct but you now say Louisa Mary? not Louisa born 1 Nov 1902 could the middle name have been added after registration? such as when baptised?

the birth

Births Dec 1902

Hislop Louisa Bedford 3b 300

looks to be the correct birth but you would need the cert to confirm parents details

The surname Muir is i believe quite common in Scotland


Roy

Louisa Hislop's father's name was Matthew Hislop and he also married a Louisa but don't know her maiden name but would really like to know her mother's maiden was but hopefully this will come. My mother said she thought she or her mother again could be of Italian descent?

So to clarify Matthew Hislop married Louisa? who had three daughters
Louisa Mary born 1 Nov 1902 (this is definitely correct DOB got from my mother)
Elizabeth born c1905
Olive C1904 who I believe became a nun?

Hope this clarifies things a bit.

I really do appreciate any help.

Thanks

I can't see this match in 1911:


1901 census transcription details for: 16, Lynton Road, Aston Manor
RG number: RG13
Piece: 2888
Folio: 148
Page: 24
Reg. District: Aston
Sub District: Aston Manor
Parish: Aston Manor
Enum. District: 57
Ecclesiastical District: Aston by Birmingham St Peter & St Paul
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 16, Lynton Road, Aston Manor
County: Warwickshire

HOLMES, William Arthur Head Married M 31 1870 Iron Moulder
Manuclen, Essex
HOLMES, Louisa Wife Married F 30 1871
Bedford, Bedfordshire
>>WOODING, Louisa Niece Single F 16 1885 Brush Maker
Bedford, Bedfordshire
WOODING, Maria Mother-In-Law Widow F 65 1836
Bedford, Bedfordshire
>>HISLOP, Matthew Boarder Single M 22 1879 Iron Moulder
Scotland Glasgow
COSGROVE, W Boarder Single M 22 1879 Iron Moulder
Liverpool, Lancashire

Marriages Sep 1902
Hislop Matthew Bedford 3b 746
Wooding Louisa Bedford 3b 746


Maureen

I believe she is definitely a Hislop and not Heslop. My mother said she did live in Birmingham and her father's name was Matthew Hislop. Louisa HIslop had 5 children all with the surname Muir (Louisa Mary , 1923; Barbara, Teeny, c1932; John Muir c1933 and my mother Mary born 11 Aug 1937 in Beith, Ayrshire) I have one of her daughters birth certificates which states that she live at 12 Court 3 Brearley Street. This daughter was called Louisa Mary Muir born on 5 July 1923.

John Muir, we are not sure where he came from as my mother thought he came from Ayrshire but not sure how he got to meet his wife in Birmingham area. He had a step brother called William McPherson, born c1899.

Many thanks

Mary, Please keep to one thread about the same family and it would have saved the time and effort of members helping if you had given the info you already had,

You had replies on this thread that required your input before you started your other thread

Roy

I take it this is her marriage as you are looking for John Muir on your other post. Again you have his date of birth.


England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005 about Louisa Hislop
Name: Louisa Hislop
Spouse Surname: Muir
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1924
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 408

It looks like the Louisa born Bedford may have married in Birmingham?

Marriages Mar 1924

Hislop Louisa Muir Birmingham 6d 408

need Mary to comment

Roy

I'm not finding Louisa born Bedford in the 1911 census.

PH, Give me a break,

I'm multi tasking :-D

Roy :-P

Ps besides, i did post the correct birth details for that birth date FIRST :-P

Mary, Where did you get her exact DOB ( Louisa Hislop born 1 November 1902 )

You need to confirm if the 1911 census posted by alviegal above is your Louisa?

Roy

You need to be quicker than that Porkie! :-D

Birth to go with the 1911 posted above?

Births Mar 1902

HESLOP Louisa Constance M Tynemouth 10b 274

Roy

This would apply to the above Louisa in the 1911 census..

Births Mar 1902 (>99%)
HESLOP Louisa Constance M Tynemouth 10b 274

could this be her
Name: HISLOP, Louisa

Registration district: [?] Bedford

County: Bedfordshire

Year of registration: 1902

Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec

Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3

Volume no:[?]3B

Page no:[?]300