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Parents name and place of birth for Louisa Hislop

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Mary

Mary Report 3 Aug 2012 12:55

I wonder if anyone can help.

I am trying to tack down both parents names (incluidng mother's maiden name if possible) and place of birth for Louisa Hislop born 1 November 1902.

alviegal

alviegal Report 3 Aug 2012 13:00

??? What more do you know about her?


1911 census transcription details for: 6 Railway Terrace Monkseaton
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National Archive Reference:

RG14PN30805 RG78PN1760 RD559 SD4 ED11 SN274
Reg. District: Tynemouth
Sub District: Whitley
Parish: Monkseaton
Enum. District: 11
Address: 6 Railway Terrace Monkseaton
County: Northumberland
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
HESLOP, James Head Married M 38 1873 Coal Miner Hewer Northumberland Bylth
HESLOP, Louisa Wife Married
10 years F 34 1877 Durham Stockton on Tees
HESLOP, Louisa Constance Mary Daughter F 9 1902 School Northumberland Whitley
HESLOP, Henrietta Daughter F 7 1904 School Northumberland Whitley
HESLOP, Margaret Ann Johnson Daughter F 6 1905 School Northumberland Whitley
HESLOP, Grace Edith Daughter F 3 1908 Northumberland Whitley
HESLOP, Edna Sarah Daughter F 1 1910 Northumberland Whitley
JOHNSON, William Father Widower M 70 1841 Platelayer Lincolnshire Fenns
JOHNSON, Margaret Ellen Sister Single F 25 1886 Servant Domestic Northumberland Whitley


EDIT This one was registered in Jan 1902 so too early for your Louisa.

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 3 Aug 2012 13:00

You could try finging her in the 1911 census then using that info search for her parents marriage but the best way to confirm the parents names are to buy the birth cert

Births Dec 1902

Hislop Louisa Bedford 3b 300

Roy

Maddie

Maddie Report 3 Aug 2012 13:03

could this be her
Name: HISLOP, Louisa

Registration district: [?] Bedford

County: Bedfordshire

Year of registration: 1902

Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec

Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3

Volume no:[?]3B

Page no:[?]300

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 3 Aug 2012 13:12

This would apply to the above Louisa in the 1911 census..

Births Mar 1902 (>99%)
HESLOP Louisa Constance M Tynemouth 10b 274

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 3 Aug 2012 13:13

Birth to go with the 1911 posted above?

Births Mar 1902

HESLOP Louisa Constance M Tynemouth 10b 274

Roy

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 3 Aug 2012 13:15

You need to be quicker than that Porkie! :-D

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 3 Aug 2012 13:16

Mary, Where did you get her exact DOB ( Louisa Hislop born 1 November 1902 )

You need to confirm if the 1911 census posted by alviegal above is your Louisa?

Roy

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 3 Aug 2012 13:18

PH, Give me a break,

I'm multi tasking :-D

Roy :-P

Ps besides, i did post the correct birth details for that birth date FIRST :-P

alviegal

alviegal Report 3 Aug 2012 13:19

I'm not finding Louisa born Bedford in the 1911 census.

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 3 Aug 2012 13:24

It looks like the Louisa born Bedford may have married in Birmingham?

Marriages Mar 1924

Hislop Louisa Muir Birmingham 6d 408

need Mary to comment

Roy

alviegal

alviegal Report 3 Aug 2012 13:24

I take it this is her marriage as you are looking for John Muir on your other post. Again you have his date of birth.


England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005 about Louisa Hislop
Name: Louisa Hislop
Spouse Surname: Muir
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1924
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 408

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 3 Aug 2012 13:34

Mary, Please keep to one thread about the same family and it would have saved the time and effort of members helping if you had given the info you already had,

You had replies on this thread that required your input before you started your other thread

Roy

Mary

Mary Report 3 Aug 2012 14:04

I believe she is definitely a Hislop and not Heslop. My mother said she did live in Birmingham and her father's name was Matthew Hislop. Louisa HIslop had 5 children all with the surname Muir (Louisa Mary , 1923; Barbara, Teeny, c1932; John Muir c1933 and my mother Mary born 11 Aug 1937 in Beith, Ayrshire) I have one of her daughters birth certificates which states that she live at 12 Court 3 Brearley Street. This daughter was called Louisa Mary Muir born on 5 July 1923.

John Muir, we are not sure where he came from as my mother thought he came from Ayrshire but not sure how he got to meet his wife in Birmingham area. He had a step brother called William McPherson, born c1899.

Many thanks

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 3 Aug 2012 14:08

I can't see this match in 1911:


1901 census transcription details for: 16, Lynton Road, Aston Manor
RG number: RG13
Piece: 2888
Folio: 148
Page: 24
Reg. District: Aston
Sub District: Aston Manor
Parish: Aston Manor
Enum. District: 57
Ecclesiastical District: Aston by Birmingham St Peter & St Paul
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 16, Lynton Road, Aston Manor
County: Warwickshire

HOLMES, William Arthur Head Married M 31 1870 Iron Moulder
Manuclen, Essex
HOLMES, Louisa Wife Married F 30 1871
Bedford, Bedfordshire
>>WOODING, Louisa Niece Single F 16 1885 Brush Maker
Bedford, Bedfordshire
WOODING, Maria Mother-In-Law Widow F 65 1836
Bedford, Bedfordshire
>>HISLOP, Matthew Boarder Single M 22 1879 Iron Moulder
Scotland Glasgow
COSGROVE, W Boarder Single M 22 1879 Iron Moulder
Liverpool, Lancashire

Marriages Sep 1902
Hislop Matthew Bedford 3b 746
Wooding Louisa Bedford 3b 746


Maureen

Mary

Mary Report 3 Aug 2012 14:10

Louisa Hislop's father's name was Matthew Hislop and he also married a Louisa but don't know her maiden name but would really like to know her mother's maiden was but hopefully this will come. My mother said she thought she or her mother again could be of Italian descent?

So to clarify Matthew Hislop married Louisa? who had three daughters
Louisa Mary born 1 Nov 1902 (this is definitely correct DOB got from my mother)
Elizabeth born c1905
Olive C1904 who I believe became a nun?

Hope this clarifies things a bit.

I really do appreciate any help.

Thanks

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 3 Aug 2012 14:41

If Matthew was louisa's father then the marriage posted by MaureeninNY looks to be correct but you now say Louisa Mary? not Louisa born 1 Nov 1902 could the middle name have been added after registration? such as when baptised?

the birth

Births Dec 1902

Hislop Louisa Bedford 3b 300

looks to be the correct birth but you would need the cert to confirm parents details

The surname Muir is i believe quite common in Scotland


Roy


Mary

Mary Report 3 Aug 2012 15:06

sorry for the 1902 it was Louisa Hislop.

I think you are right the information from Maureen looks like it might be what I am looking for. I think I should get the marriage certificate for both 1902 Matthew Hislop to Louisa Wooding and then their child's marriage certificate John Muir to Louisa Hislop .

Louisa Hislop born 1 November 1902 and John Muir married in 1924 and had 5 children (all Muir)

Louisa Mary born 5 July 1923, she has the address listed as 12 Court 3 Brearley St, Birmingham (this cert I have)

Barbara (who I believe died only a few months old)

Teeny born c1932

John born c1933

Mary born 11 August 1937 in Beith, Ayrshire, Scotland

If anyone had any census information on this family group that would be really helpful as I didn't realise how interesting that was until I read Maureen's post - thanks. Looks like the boarder and the niece got together. Do you think her (Louisa Wooding born 1885 parents had died then?

Thanks to everyone so far for your help

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 3 Aug 2012 15:24

Mary, The 1911 census was the last census that has been made available,

The census's have a 100 year closure

The 1921 is the next one to be made available but will not be released untill 2022

Roy

Mary

Mary Report 3 Aug 2012 15:45

Could someone check if there is census information for 1911 for William Arthur Holmes (born 1879) and Louisa Holmes (nee Wooding) born 1885.

Many thanks