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12 Oct 2012 22:07 |
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I have got the Robert's relatives and a considerable amount of information on them, which is quite fascinating.
but 1901 Scotland Census County:Forfarshire (Angus) Parish:DUNDEE Street:2 MAIN STREET Birth Town:DUNDEE Registration District:ST ANDREW
ALEXANDER INGLIS 1870 31 Dundee, Forfarshire HEAD TINSMITH JEMIMA INGLIS 1870 31 Dundee, Forfarshire WIFE GEORGE INGLIS 1897 4 Dundee, Forfarshire SON WILLIAM INGLIS 1900 1 Dundee, Forfarshire SON
I don't know where you got this from (amazing) but Robert and his wife went back to visit Scotland in 1903 (ships manifest) and persuaded this couple to come out with all their children to the USA (ships manifest) which they did the following year. However, she is listed as a widow in the 1910 census. When she came out first they were both listed as Nephew of Robert Low and were destined for "Brownwood, TXT". He was planning an ice cream factory there and would have a need for a master plumber. It was a great pity that he died in the "promised land". Jemima is listed as Jemima Low before marriage. Lots of relatives at home which i have not investigated. However, the USA one's were more interesting as knowbody had known about the emigration of the Low brothers before the letters came to light.
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12 Oct 2012 12:34 |
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This is an even bigger WOW - where did all that come from?
I will have to update my family tree with all this information now. Thanks.
There was another James born in 1851, I had a look at my census records and he was only 11 in the 1861 census so I am really confused now :-S
My original request was where are the Low brothers now (I mean then) what happened to James and William?
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12 Oct 2012 10:02 |
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1871 Scotland Census about Mrs Low Name: Mrs Low Age: 63 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808 Relationship: Head Gender: Female Where born: Brechin, Forfarshire Registration Number: 288 Registration district: Forfar Civil parish: Forfar Town: Forfar County: Angus Address: 97 West High Street Occupation: Carpeder ED: 6 Household schedule number: 1 Line: 1 Roll: CSSCT1871_55 Household Members: Name Age Mrs Low 63 James Low 31 Jane Low 28 Jane Ann Low 2 - Granddaughter born: Forfar, Forfarshire Charles Low 9 - Grandson born: Forfar, Forfarshire .........................................................
1881 Scotland Census about Isabella Low Name: Isabella Low Age: 73 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808 Relationship: Head Gender: Female Where born: Brechin, Forfarshire Registration Number: 288 Registration district: Forfar Civil parish: Forfar County: Angus Address: No 97 West High St ED: 6 Household schedule number: 5 Line: 16 Roll: cssct1881a_104227 Household Members: Name Age Isabella Low 73
.................Sorry, got distracted there from your original request :-S
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12 Oct 2012 09:52 |
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1861 Scotland Census about Charles Low Name: Charles Low Age: 64 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1797 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Isabella Low Gender: Male Where born: Glennis, Forfarshire Registration Number: 288 Registration district: Forfar Civil parish: Forfar County: Angus Address: 77 West High St Occupation: Carter ED: 8 Household schedule number: 63 Line: 15 Roll: CSSCT1861_42 Household Members: Name Age Charles Low 64 Isabella Low 52 - born: Brechin, Forfarshire Ann Low 32 Janet Low 24 Margaret Low 22 William Low 18 James Low 11 Charles Neave 5 - Grandson born: Forfar, Forfarshire ( Son of Helen) Alexander Boyle 1 - Grandson born: Forfar, Forfarshire (Son of Margaret) ...................................................................
groom's name: James Nevay bride's name: Helen Low marriage date: 03 Jun 1855 marriage place: Forfar,Angus,Scotland
indexing project (batch) number: M11288-4 system origin: Scotland-ODM source film number: 993432 reference number: Citing this Record
"Scotland, Marriages, 1561-1910," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTVL-CJ9 : accessed 12 Oct 2012), James Nevay and Helen Low, 03 Jun 1855; citing reference , FHL microfilm 993432 ..............................................................................................................
1871 Scotland Census about Helen Neave Name: Helen Neave Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relationship: Head Gender: Female Where born: Forfar, Forfarshire Registration Number: 288 Registration district: Forfar Civil parish: Forfar Town: Forfar County: Angus Address: 6 Horsewater Wynd Occupation: Factorys Wife ED: 9 Household schedule number: 138 Line: 13 Roll: CSSCT1871_55 Household Members: Name Age Helen Neave 37 Charles Neave 15 Isebella Neave 14 Alexander Neave 12 Ann Neave 11 Jessie Neave 9 Jame Neave 6 Sarah Neave 1 ...............................................................................................................
name: Alexander Boyle Or Low gender: Male baptism/christening date: baptism/christening place: birth date: 16 Aug 1859 birthplace: FORFAR,ANGUS,SCOTLAND
father's name: John Boyle father's age: mother's name: Margaret Low
indexing project (batch) number: C11288-1 system origin: Scotland-ODM source film number: 6035516 ........................................................................
She must have remarried:-
1871 Scotland Census about Margaret Allan Name: Margaret Allan Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Relationship: Head Gender: Female Where born: Forfar, Forfarshire Registration Number: 288 Registration district: Forfar Civil parish: Forfar Town: Forfar County: Angus Address: 1 Charles Street Occupation: Power Loom Weaver ED: 11 Household schedule number: 8 Line: 11 Roll: CSSCT1871_55 Household Members: Name Age Margaret Allan 32 Alexander Boyle 11 Ann Boyle 5 James Allan 5 Moths ................................................................................
name: James Low Allan gender: Male baptism/christening date: baptism/christening place: birth date: 12 Jul 1870 birthplace: FORFAR,ANGUS,SCOTLAND father's name: Alexander Allan mother's name: Margaret Low
indexing project (batch) number: C11288-3 system origin: Scotland-ODM source film number: 6035516 reference number: Citing this Record
"Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XY1N-N9J : accessed 12 Oct 2012), James Low Allan, 12 Jul 1870; citing reference , FHL microfilm 6035516.
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12 Oct 2012 09:47 |
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Scotland, Marriages, 1561-1910," Charles Low, 1828 « Back to search results No image available Search collection About this collection
groom's name: Charles Low bride's name: Isobella Grant marriage date: 30 May 1828 marriage place: Inverarity And Methy,Angus,Scotland
indexing project (batch) number: M11292-4 system origin: Scotland-ODM source film number: 993436 reference number: Citing this Record
"Scotland, Marriages, 1561-1910," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTVP-85D : accessed 12 Oct 2012), Charles Low and Isobella Grant, 30 May 1828; citing reference , FHL microfilm 993436. .................................................................................................................
groom's name: Charles Lowe bride's name: Isabel Grant marriage date: 14 Jun 1828 marriage place: Brechin,Angus,Scotland
indexing project (batch) number: M11275-4 system origin: Scotland-ODM source film number: 993413 reference number: Citing this Record
"Scotland, Marriages, 1561-1910," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTVM-B5X : accessed 12 Oct 2012), Charles Lowe and Isabel Grant, 14 Jun 1828; citing reference , FHL microfilm 993413.
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12 Oct 2012 09:44 |
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Also for info:- (baptism for above family gives mother's maiden name as Grant, not Grout) ............................................ name: Ann Low gender: Female baptism/christening date: 05 Apr 1829 baptism/christening place: FORFAR,ANGUS,SCOTLAND birth date: 29 Mar 1829 father's name: Charles Low mother's name: Isobel Grant
indexing project (batch) number: C11288-4 system origin: Scotland-ODM source film number: 993432 reference number: Citing this Record
"Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XB84-W5D : accessed 12 Oct 2012), Charles Low in entry for Ann Low, 29 Mar 1829; citing reference , FHL microfilm 993432. ..................................................................................................................
name: Helen Low gender: Female baptism/christening date: 04 Nov 1832 baptism/christening place: FORFAR,ANGUS,SCOTLAND birth date: 22 Oct 1832
father's name: Charles Low mother's name: Isobel Grant
mther's birthplace: mother's age: indexing project (batch) number: C11288-4 system origin: Scotland-ODM source film number: 993432 reference number: Citing this Record
"Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XB8W-PZ2 : accessed 12 Oct 2012), Charles Low in entry for Helen Low, 22 Oct 1832; citing reference , FHL microfilm 993432 ....................................................................................................
name: Elisabeth Low gender: Female baptism/christening date: 03 Aug 1834 baptism/christening place: FORFAR,ANGUS,SCOTLAND birth date: 22 Jul 1834
father's name: Charles Low mother's name: Isabella Grant
indexing project (batch) number: C11288-4 system origin: Scotland-ODM source film number: 993432 reference number: Citing this Record
"Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XB8W-Y5F : accessed 12 Oct 2012), Charles Low in entry for Elisabeth Low, 22 Jul 1834; citing reference , FHL microfilm 993432. .............................................................................
name: Margaret Low gender: Female baptism/christening date: 17 May 1839 baptism/christening place: FORFAR,ANGUS,SCOTLAND birth date: 22 Feb 1839
father's name: Chas. Low mother's name: Isobel Grant
indexing project (batch) number: C11288-5 system origin: Scotland-ODM source film number: 0993432-0993433 reference number: Citing this Record
"Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYJQ-CYL : accessed 12 Oct 2012), Chas. Low in entry for Margaret Low, 22 Feb 1839; citing reference , FHL microfilm 0993432-0993433. ........................................................................................................................
name: James Low gender: Male baptism/christening date: 13 Jun 1841 baptism/christening place: FORFAR,ANGUS,SCOTLAND birth date: 04 Jun 1841
father's name: Chas. Low mother's name: Isobel Grant
indexing project (batch) number: C11288-5 system origin: Scotland-ODM source film number: 0993432-0993433 reference number: Citing this Record
"Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYJQ-2H9 : accessed 12 Oct 2012), Chas. Low in entry for James Low, 04 Jun 1841; citing reference , FHL microfilm 0993432-0993433. .....................................................................................
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12 Oct 2012 09:19 |
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For info:- (the 1851 family in 1841)
1841 Scotland Census about Charles Low Name: Charles Low Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796 Gender: Male Where born: Angus, Scotland Civil parish: Forfar County: Angus Address: High St Occupation: Ag Lab Parish Number: 288 Household Members: Name Age Martha Whyte 30 Jean Doie 40 Helen Dale 15 Robert Dale 15 James Emslie 40 Isobel Emslie 35 Isobel Emslie 10 David Emslie 9 Elizabeth Emslie 7 Jean Emslie 5 William Spence 34 Helen Spence 40 Margaret Spence 10 Ann Spence 8 Helen Spence 6 Catherine Spence 3 John Thornton 35 Agnes Thornton 35 John Thornton 1 Charles Low 45 Isabell Low 30 - born: Angus, Scotland Ann Low 10 Helen Low 8 Elizabeth Low 6 Jess Low 5 Margaret Low 2 N K 1 Week
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12 Oct 2012 07:27 |
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Magnify 4 clicks, then save image: J1880 http://archive.org/stream/10thcensus0796unit#page/n543/mode/1up [addy=84 Pine St, Paterson, Passaic Co NJ] R1880 http://archive.org/stream/10thcensus1292unit#page/n774/mode/1up [and next page] R1910 http://archive.org/stream/13thcensus1910po1535unit#page/n190/mode/1up [+ Mary + Ganning Inglis a=43 Widowed niece & her kids: George a=13, William a=11, Lizzie a=8 all pob=Scotland except it's obviously not Ganning - Jamimy looks more likely, but weird - some variant of Jamesina, maybe - check the 1901 - possib really niece of Mary] c1910 http://archive.org/stream/13thcensus1910po1535unit#page/n51/mode/1up j1920 http://archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu1782unit#page/n198/mode/1up c1920 http://archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu1782unit#page/n146/mode/1up w1930 http://archive.org/stream/texascensus00reel2302#page/n750/mode/1up j1930 http://archive.org/stream/15thcensus1933unit#page/n279/mode/1up
1901 Scotland Census County:Forfarshire (Angus) Parish:DUNDEE Street:2 MAIN STREET Birth Town:DUNDEE Registration District:ST ANDREW
ALEXANDER INGLIS 1870 31 Dundee, Forfarshire HEAD TINSMITH JEMIMA INGLIS 1870 31 Dundee, Forfarshire WIFE GEORGE INGLIS 1897 4 Dundee, Forfarshire SON WILLIAM INGLIS 1900 1 Dundee, Forfarshire SON
name : Robt. Low event: Census event date: 1880 event place: Precinct 1, Brown, Texas, United States gender: Male age: 34 marital status : Married occupation : Farming race or color (original) : ethnicity (standardized) : American relationship to head : Self birthplace : Scotland birthdate : 1846 spouse's name : Mary Low spouse's birthplace : Scotland father's name : father's birthplace : Scotland mother's name : mother's birthplace : Scotland page : 384 page character : C entry number : 149 nara film number : T9-1292 gs film number : 1255292 digital folder number: 004244672 image number: 00776 Household Gender Age Birthplace self Robt. Low M 34 Scotland wife Mary Low F 29 Scotland son Chas. B. Low M 13 Scotland Citing this Record "United States Census, 1880," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MFFP-TCT : accessed 12 Oct 2012), Robt. Low, Precinct 1, Brown, Texas, United States; citing sheet 384C, family 0, NARA microfilm publication T9-1292.
groom's name: Charlie Low bride's name: Willie Mc Mahan marriage date: 30 Nov 1887 marriage place: , Brown, Texas indexing project (batch) number: M59141-9 system origin: Texas-VR source film number: 1533474 reference number: 2:10KKB4N Citing this Record "Texas, Marriages, 1837-1973," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FX7X-Z5D : accessed 12 Oct 2012), Charlie Low and Willie Mc Mahan, 30 Nov 1887.
name: Robert Low titles & terms: event: Census event date: 1900 event place: ED 3 Justice Precinct 1 (excl. Brownwood town), Brown, Texas, United States birth date: Jul 1845 birthplace: Scotland relationship to head of household: Head father's birthplace: Scotland mother's birthplace: Scotland race or color (standardized): White gender: Male marital status: Married years married: 35 estimated marriage year: 1865 mother how many children: number living children: immigration year: 1869 page: 11 sheet letter: A family number: 183 reference number: 7 film number: 1241615 digital folder number: 004111960 image number: 00103 Household Gender Age Birthplace head Robert Low M 55 Scotland wife Mary Bell Low F 52 Scotland Citing this Record "United States Census, 1900," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M3LM-5TK : accessed 12 Oct 2012), Robert Low, ED 3 Justice Precinct 1 (excl. Brownwood town), Brown, Texas, United States; citing sheet 11A, family 183, NARA microfilm publication T623, FHL microfilm 1241615. [marr 35 y, immig 1869, naturalized 1875ish]
name: Charles Low titles & terms: event: Census event date: 1900 event place: ED 5 Justice Precinct 1 Brownwood town (north half), Brown, Texas, United States birth date: Sep 1866 birthplace: Scotland relationship to head of household: Head father's birthplace: Scotland mother's birthplace: Scotland race or color (standardized): White gender: Male marital status: Married years married: 10 estimated marriage year: 1890 mother how many children: number living children: immigration year: 1877 page: 6 sheet letter: B family number: 67 reference number: 61 film number: 1241615 digital folder number: 004111960 image number: 00184 Household Gender Age Birthplace head Charles Low M 34 Scotland wife Willie Low F 35 Texas son Robert Low M 12 Texas son William Low M 9 Texas daughter Mary Low F 7 Texas daughter Annie Low F 5 Texas son Nathan Low M 3 Texas Citing this Record "United States Census, 1900," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M321-PDQ : accessed 12 Oct 2012), Charles Low, ED 5 Justice Precinct 1 Brownwood town (north half), Brown, Texas, United States; citing sheet 6B, family 67, NARA microfilm publication T623, FHL microfilm 1241615.
name: Nellie Low birthplace: Texas relationship to head of household: Daughter residence: Brownwood Ward 2, Brown, Texas marital status: Single race : White gender: Female immigration year: father's birthplace: Scotland mother's birthplace: Texas family number: 17 page number: 1 Household Gender Age Birthplace self Chas Low M 43y Scotland wife Willie Low F 43y Texas son Bob Low M 21y Texas son Will Low M 19y Texas dau Mary Low F 16y Texas dau Annie Low F 14y Texas son Nat Low M 12y Texas son Jack Low M 9y Texas dau Nellie Low F 8y Texas dau Gertrude Low F 4y Texas Citing this Record "United States Census, 1910," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M296-4RH : accessed 12 Oct 2012), Nellie Low in household of Chas Low, Brownwood Ward 2, Brown, Texas; citing sheet 1B, family 17, NARA microfilm publication T624, FHL microfilm 1375548.
name: Nellie Low residence: , Brown, Texas estimated birth year: 1903 age: 17 birthplace: Texas relationship to head of household: Daughter gender: Female race: White marital status: Single father's birthplace: Scotland mother's birthplace: Texas film number: 1821782 digital folder number: 4390809 image number: 00152 sheet number: 7 Household Gender Age Birthplace self Charles Low M 53y Scotland wife Millie Low F 54y Texas son Nat Low M 27y Texas son Jack Low M 19y Texas dau Nellie Low F 17y Texas dau Gertrude Low F 14y Texas Citing this Record "United States Census, 1920," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MHY5-SPS : accessed 12 Oct 2012), Nellie Low in household of Charles Low, , Brown, Texas; citing enumeration district (ED) , sheet 7B, family 148, NARA microfilm publication T625, FHL microfilm 1821782.
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12 Oct 2012 07:09 |
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For ref info:
1851 Scotland Census Parish:FORFAR Street:WEST HIGH STREET Admin County:FORFAR City:FORFAR Enumeration District:10 Town:FORFAR
CHARLES LAW 1798 53 Glamiss, Forfarshire HEAD CARTER ISABELLA LAW 1808 43 Brechin, Forfarshire WIFE ANN LAW 1829 22 Forfar, Forfarshire DAUGHTER HAND LOOM WEAVER LINEN HELEN LAW 1833 18 Forfar, Forfarshire DAUGHTER HAND LOOM WEAVER LINEN ELISABETH LAW 1835 16 Forfar, Forfarshire DAUGHTER HAND LOOM WEAVER LINEN JANET LAW 1836 15 Forfar, Forfarshire DAUGHTER SCHOLAR MARGARET LAW 1839 12 Forfar, Forfarshire DAUGHTER SCHOLAR WILLIAM LAW 1843 8 Forfar, Forfarshire SON SCHOLAR ROBERT LAW 1846 5 Forfar, Forfarshire SON SCHOLAR JAMES LAW 1849 2 Forfar, Forfarshire SON
US census was 1 June 1830-1900 after that April, except 1/1/1920.
You can search 1900/40 (and view images) at: https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_STATES plus lots of other stuff.
Nothing found on 1870
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12 Oct 2012 00:31 |
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from familysearch.org
Robert married a Mary as well
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Robert
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12 Oct 2012 00:29 |
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James Low was born in Forfar in June 1841 - I have his birth certificate for this from "ScotlandsPeople".
Absolutely amazing coincidence and the people there was a Jane Low and a Margret Low and James in the family too.
Jane Ann Low ms. Keith was my Great Grandmother.
Thanks for the help its getting a bit late now BFN
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12 Oct 2012 00:16 |
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Robert, what do you mean by "another Mary"?
Where did you get the info that he'd had a daughter in New Jersey?
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Robert
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12 Oct 2012 00:14 |
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It was through a letter that William sent back to his wife, but only that he (James) was marrying another Mary.
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MarieCeleste
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12 Oct 2012 00:12 |
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Robert - don't get too upset about your relatives hardship, I'm not sure that they're your relatives. See my last posts.
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12 Oct 2012 00:09 |
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Wow, I sit looking at the computer screen thinking of the sadness that my relatives experienced in the new world.
William was lodged in a "beer store" in Chigaco while working for a meat factory (Libby's) in 1882.
Their mother died in 1884 in Forfar.
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12 Oct 2012 00:08 |
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Robert - where have you got the information from about James' marriage and birth of daughter? Has it been verified?
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12 Oct 2012 00:07 |
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Have found the following 1870 census and now I'm not convinced that the 1880 census, plus the births and deaths posted for James and Mary & their children are correct:
1870 United States Federal Census Name: James Low Age in 1870: 19 Birth Year: abt 1851 Birthplace: Scotland Home in 1870: Paterson Ward 8, Passaic, New Jersey Race: White Gender: Male Post Office: Paterson Value of real estate: View image Household Members: Name Age Jane Low 46 James Low 19 Margret Low 17
I'm sure this is the James that is in the 1880 and whose family records have been posted but I'm guessing it 's his mother he's with and her name is Jane, whereas Robert states his James' mother was Isabella.
Also, this one in New Jersey is 10 years younger.
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11 Oct 2012 23:59 |
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Could this be James' wife?
New Jersey, Deaths and Burials Index, 1798-1971 Name: Mary Low Birth Date: abt 1855 Birth Place: Scotland Death Date: 4 Mar 1884 Death Place: Paterson, Passaic, New Jersey Death Age: 29 years Race: White Marital Status: Married Gender: Female FHL Film Number: 589836
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11 Oct 2012 23:57 |
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It was in 1874 James married Mary Kidd.
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11 Oct 2012 23:57 |
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Oh dear, this is sad:
New Jersey, Deaths and Burials Index, 1798-1971 Name: Charles Low Birth Date: abt 1877 Birth Place: United States Death Date: Jan 1878 Death Place: Patterson, Passaic, New Jersey Death Age: 1 year Race: White Gender: Male Father Birth Place: Scotland Mother Birth Place: Scotland FHL Film Number: 589825
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