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While trying to figure out the family dinamics and hitting a brick wall over samuel wright?
here is what i know and im wondering if anyone else can help sort this one out......in the census there is a listing for my gr gr grandad henry wright 1856 born in dublin island it says parents are samuel wright and catherine davis...now we have never been able to trace back any futher for samuel.On henrys wedding cert to jane ellis 1858 (holyhead) it gives samuel as henrys father but on catherine davis death cert it list henry wright as her nephew?????? now im confused.com :-S do i ignor as a mistake or is henry really there son ??????

i also know henry wright came to holyhead from irland wen the potato famine was happening,is there a passanger list for that time?????

Could it be a different Henry Wright who registered her death and not her son. It is quite possible that if she had another son as well as Henry then that son could have named his son after his brother Henry.

Kath. x

You ought to keep this as one thread (on Henry)

Jude

Hi lisa, No there is no passenger list for people coming from Ireland to England as Ireland was part of the UK then, Can you check what you have put re the dates because you have said Henry was born 1856 and married Jane in 1858 ????

For Henry to be a nephew of Catherine he must be the son of one of Samuels brother

Is this Henry in the 1861 census:-

1861 census transcription details for: Waterside, Holyhead

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 4372
Folio: 27
Page: 6
Reg. District: Anglesey
Sub District: 6 Holyhead
Parish: Holyhead
Enum. District: 2 F
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: Waterside, Holyhead
County: Anglesey

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

DAVIES, Jane Head Widow F 78 1783
Holyhead, Anglesey
DAVIES, Susan Daughter Unmarried F 43 1818
Holyhead, Anglesey
DAVIES, Catherine Daughter Unmarried F 38 1823
Holyhead, Anglesey
WRIGHT, Henry George Grandson M 5 1856
Dublin, Ireland<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Kath. x

And again in the 1871 census:-

1871 census transcription details for: Hibernea Terrace Water Side, Holyhead

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 5752
Folio: 54
Page: 48
Reg. District: Anglesey
Sub District: Holyhead
Parish: Holyhead
Enum. District: 2
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: Hibernea Terrace Water Side, Holyhead
County: Anglesey

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

DAVIES, Catherine Head F 48 1823 Anglesey
DAVIES, Susan Sister F 54 1817 Anglesey
DAVIES, Jane Mother F 90 1781 Anglesey
WRIGHT, Henry Nephew M 15 1856 Ireland<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Just for ref the marriage was 1878

Marriages Sep 1878 (>99%)


ELLIS Jane Anglesey 11b 674 <<<<<<
JONES William Anglesey 11b 674
OWEN Martha Anglesey 11b 674
WRIGHT Henry Anglesey 11b 674 <<<<<<<<

And again in the 1881 census:-

1881 census transcription details for: 2, North West St, Holyhead

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 5594
Folio: 61
Page: 56
Reg. District: Anglesey
Sub District: Holyhead
Parish: Holyhead
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: 2, North West St, Holyhead
County: Anglesey

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

WRIGHT, Henry Head Married M 25 1856 Boatman (On Sea)
Dublin, Ireland<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
WRIGHT, Jane Wife Married F 20 1861
Holyhead, Anglesey, Wales

Kath. x

From the census I would say it looks as if Henry Wright WAS a nephew to Catherine Davies.

You say on the census it gives Samuel as Henry's father. Which census have you seen with Samuel on it?

Kath. x

sorry 1858 is the year jane was born x im confusing myself :-S :-S
is it possible that samuel was not married to catherine,i have just found a census that now says that catherine is henrys grandmother?????
really feel like giving up :-(

are all familys so confusing x

The 1861 census says Henry is grandson to Jane Davies - Catherine's mother (if I have the correct family in the above census records).

Kath. x

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1312754

i have a copy of henrys wedding cert to jane and it states on therethat his father is samuel wright ,
janes father is ritchard ellis

Catherine Davies is definitely described as unmarried on all the census records.

Kath. x

i think i need to tyr find a birth cert for henry wright in dublin , i have looked but it just gives a name.would this be possible ???? as not sure if they had full birth certs at this time x x :-S

Thank you to everyone who has looked x x <3

According to the Familysearch website civil registration of births did not begin in Ireland until 1864 so there will probably NOT be a birth certificate.

Kath. x

Most City of Dublin parish registers are free online at:
http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/

Sometimes, the local registrar's index is online - see http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd
In particular http://www.northwalesbmd.org.uk/
It's worth checking in addition to FreeBMD as the index doesn't always have the same info as the GRO index. E.g.:

North Wales Birth indexes for the years: 1878
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
WRIGHT Thomas Henry Holyhead Isle of Anglesey - Llangefni ELLIS HOLYHEAD/22/E29

North Wales Birth indexes for the years: 1887
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
WRIGHT Elizabeth Jane Holyhead Isle of Anglesey - Llangefni ELLIS HOLYHEAD/26/E487

North Wales Birth indexes for the years: 1889
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
WRIGHT John Henry Holyhead Isle of Anglesey - Llangefni ELLIS HOLYHEAD/28/E69

North Wales Birth indexes for the years: 1890
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
WRIGHT Samuel Holyhead Isle of Anglesey - Llangefni ELLIS HOLYHEAD/28/E428

North Wales Birth indexes for the years: 1891
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
WRIGHT Hugh Ellis Holyhead Isle of Anglesey - Llangefni ELLIS HOLYHEAD/29/E282

North Wales Birth indexes for the years: 1892
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
WRIGHT Catherine Holyhead Isle of Anglesey - Llangefni ELLIS HOLYHEAD/30/E79

North Wales Birth indexes for the years: 1894
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
WRIGHT Thomas Richard Holyhead Isle of Anglesey - Llangefni ELLIS HOLYHEAD/31/E181

North Wales Birth indexes for the years: 1895
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
WRIGHT George Holyhead Isle of Anglesey - Llangefni ELLIS HOLYHEAD/32/E224

North Wales Birth indexes for the years: 1898
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
WRIGHT Winifred Holyhead Isle of Anglesey - Llangefni ELLIS HOLYHEAD/33/E136