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This what I have found in 1911

1911 Census
BARTROP RUPERT A M 1906 5 Whitby Yorkshire North Riding
BARTROP GEORGE A M 1881 30 Whitby Yorkshire North Riding
BARTROP LOUISA F 1873 38 Whitby

and

Marriages Sep 1900
Bartrop George Arthur Wakefield
9c 15

Sarson Louisa Wakefield
9c 15

The only Louisa Sarson I can find in FreeBMD is

Births Sep 1872
Sarson Louisa Chesterfield
7b 547

but I cannot get the 1911 census to agree that Chesterfield is her place of birth

Can anybody tell me where the 1911 census says she was born please?

Many thanks,
Frances

BARTROP, George A Head Married M 30 1881 Elemy Certd Schoolmaster Head Teacher Yorks Hemsworth VIEW
BARTROP, Louisa Wife Married10 years F 38 1873 Elemy Assistt Schoolmistress Derbys New Whittington VIEW
BARTROP, Rupert A Son M 5 1906 School Yorks Sleights VIEW
BARTROP, Harold O Son M 1 1910 Yorks Sleights VIEW

RG number: RG14

Piece: 29119

Reference: RG14PN29119 RG78PN1686 RD533 SD1 ED4 SN4

Registration District: Whitby

Sub District: Egton

Enumeration District: 4

Parish: Eskdaleside cum Ugglebarnby

Address: School House Sleights S-O York

County: Yorkshire (North riding

Don't take it for granted that her birth was actually registered.

Until 1875, there were no penalties for not registering

1911 census is free on GR at the moment............

Is this woman your relation?

If so..........how did you get back to her?

It gives her place of birth as New Whittington, Derbyshire which would be the Chesterfield Registration District.

Kath. x

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: Birth
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Name: SARSON, Louisa

Registration district: [?] Chesterfield

County: Derbyshire

Year of registration: 1872

Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep

Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3

Volume no:[?]7B

Page no:[?]547

1881
SARSON, Mathew Owen Head Married M 35 1846 Coal Miner
Leicester, Leicestershire VIEW
SARSON, Isabella Wife Married F 34 1847
U Wingfield, Derbyshire VIEW
SARSON, Louisa Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar
Whittington, Derbyshire VIEW
SARSON, Richard Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar
Whittington, Derbyshire VIEW
SARSON, William Mat Son Single M 4 1877 Scholar
Whittington, Derbyshire VIEW
SARSON, Sarah Elizabeth Daughter Single F 1 1880
North Wingfield, Derbyshire VIEW

Piece: 3435

Folio: 21

Page: 36

Registration District: Chesterfield

Civil Parish: Hasland

Municipal Borough:

Address: New Street, Hasland

County: Derbyshire

Here is Louisa in the 1901 census:-

1901 census transcription details for: 6, Ings Cottages, Crofton, Crofton

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 4277
Folio: 102
Page: 30
Reg. District: Wakefield
Sub District: Sandal
Parish: Crofton
Enum. District: 10
Ecclesiastical District: Crofton All Saints
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: 6, Ings Cottages, Crofton, Crofton
County: Yorkshire (West riding)

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

SARSON, Isabella Head Widow F 54 1847
Northwingfield, Derbyshire
SARSON, William Mathew Son Single M 24 1877 Colliery Lamp Man (Above)
New Whittington, Derbyshire
SARSON, Isabella Daughter Single F 18 1883
Grassmoor, Derbyshire
SARSON, Louisa Daughter Married F 28 1873 School Teacher (Elementary)
New Whittington, Derbyshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
BARTROP, George Arthur Son-In-Law Married M 20 1881 School Teacher (Elementary)
Hunsworth, Yorkshire

Kath. x

1891 census:-

1891 census transcription details for: New Street, Hasland, Grassmoor

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 2763
Folio: 142
Page: 41
Reg. District: Chesterfield
Sub District: Chesterfield
Parish: Hasland
Enum. District: 27
Ecclesiastical District: St Pauls
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: New Street, Hasland, Grassmoor
County: Derbyshire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
SARSON, Matthew Owen Head Married M 45 1846 Coal Miner
Leicester
SARSON, Isabella Wife Married F 44 1847
North Wingfield, Derbyshire
SARSON, Louisa Daughter Single F 18 1873 Assistant School Mistress
New Whittington, Derbyshire
SARSON, Richard Son M 16 1875 Coal Miner
New Whittington, Derbyshire
SARSON, Wm Mathew Son M 14 1877 Scholar
New Whittington, Derbyshire
SARSON, Sarah Daughter F 11 1880 Scholar
North Wingfield, Derbyshire
SARSON, Isabella Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar
Grassmoor, Derbyshire

Kath. x

Thank you Maddie, Kathleen and Reggie, the info you have posted is most rewarding.
To answer your question Reggie, the family search is at the request of a neighbour who knows I am an addict for this sleuthing lark.

The information I was given to start with was the names which led me to this marriage :-

Marriages Sep 1933
Bartrop Rupert A Harrison Whitby
9d 1157

Harrison Rena Bartrop Whitby
9d 1157


All the rest is just using the various websites and sleuthing......

Frances

Teacher's Registration Council Registers
1914-1948 (Find My Past)

BARTROP, George Arthur
(Attainments: Board of Education Certificate, 1st class Certificates in: Model and Freehand Drawing, and Physiography. 1st Class Certificate in Royal Horticultural Society.
Experience: Assistant Master Crofton Board School 1900-1901 HeadMaster Roxby School, Lincs. 1902-1905 Sleights School, Yorks. 1905-

Chris :)

Thanks for that Chris. Hopefully the family know about this!

1851 census for Queniborough Derbyshire please

With all the info Kath posted I have focused on the Sarson family and whilst Matthew seems to only have two brothers the search for parents show Queniborough as a rabbit warren for Sarsons!

Sarson Richard 1841 Queniborough Chesterfield, Chesterfield
Sarson Matthew 1845 Queniborough Chesterfield, Chesterfield
Sarson Thomas 1847 Queniborough Chesterfield, Chesterfield

Can anybody see the whole family please?

Many thanks,
Frances

Ndg

I am trying to be patient and obey the rules by not opening a new thread...........

1851
SARSON, William Head Married M 36 1815 Labourer
Hoby, Leicestershire
SARSON, Jane Wife Married F 48 1803
Duckmanton, Derbyshire
SARSON, Richard Son M 10 1841
Queniborough, Leicestershire
SARSON, Matthew Son M 6 1845
Queniborough, Leicestershire
SARSON, Thomas Son M 4 1847
Queniborough, Leicestershire
MARRIOTT, Thomas Son-In-Law M 11 1840
Bolsover, Derbyshire
MARRIOTT, Jane Daughter-In-Law F 7 1844
Duckmanton, Derbyshire
Piece: 2147
Folio: 704
Page: 22
Registration District: Chesterfield
Civil Parish:
Municipal Borough:
Address: Calow Green
County: Derbyshire

Chris :)

Thanks Chris, a full house - how soon before they have to build an extension to house the grandchildren?

County Derbyshire
Place North Wingfield
Church St Lawrence
RegisterNumber
MarriageDate 01 Apr 1850
GroomForename William
GroomSurname SARSON
GroomAge
GroomParish Clay Cross
GroomCondition Widower
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode
BrideForename Jane
BrideSurname MARRIOTT
BrideAge
BrideParish Clay Cross
BrideCondition Widow
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename William
GroomFatherSurname SARSON
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename Thomas
BrideFatherSurname CANTRILL
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename
WitnessOneSurname
WitnessTwoForename
WitnessTwoSurname
FileNumber 21440

(from below useful link)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Chris :)

Remember that "son-in-law" and "daughter-in-law" in the 1851 census actually means step-son and step-daughter (children from Jane's first marriage).

Since William and Jane only married in 1850 I would imagine that all the Sarson children on the 1851 census are from William's first marriage.

Kath. x

Thank you Chris. This seems to suggest that Jane was not the mother of the three Sarson boys?
Perhaps the two Marriot children should be specified as 'step'?

Possibly William with his first wife in the 1841 census:-

1841 census transcription details for: Queenborough

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 593
Book/Folio: 5/3
Page: 1
Reg. District: Barrow upon Soar
Sub District: Syston
Parish: Queenborough
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: Queenborough
County: Leicestershire

Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

SARSON, William M 25 1816 Leicestershire
SARSON, Sarah F 30 1811
SARSON, Edward M 2 1839 Leicestershire
SARSON, Richard M 0 (5 months) 1841 Leicestershire

Kath. x

This could be the Edward Sarson born c1839 who is on the 1841 census but not with the family in 1851 (he is with an aunt and uncle in 1851):-

1851 census transcription details for: High Street, Syston

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 2087
Folio: 559
Page: 32
Reg. District: Barrow upon Soar
Sub District: Syston
Parish: Syston
Enum. District: 1B
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: High Street, Syston
County: Leicestershire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

ADCOCK, Richard Head Married M 39 1812 Carrier And Grazier
Syston, Leicestershire
ADCOCK, Mary Ann Wife Married F 40 1811 Carrier's Wife
Queeniboro, Leicestershire
SARSON, Edward Nephew M 11 1840 Servant Boy
Queeniboro, Leicestershire
SARSON, Ann Niece F 8 1843 Scholar
Queeniboro, Leicestershire

Kath. x