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In the 1881 census putting in James Eden b-London Middlesex 1846 residence Sunderland it states occupation Ass Draper but under Education and Employment Status it says subscribe for further information can anyone tell me what further info is available

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EDEN, James Head Married M 35 1846 Drapers Ass London, London, Middlesex
EDEN, Grace Wife Married F 33 1848 Sunderland, Durham
EDEN, Jane M Daughter Single F 12 1869 Sunderland, Durham
EDEN, Patience H Daughter Single F 11 1870 Sunderland, Durham
EDEN, Jno T Son Single M 9 1872 Sunderland, Durham
EDEN, Elizabeth G Daughter Single F 7 1874 Sunderland, Durham
EDEN, James W Son Single M 2 1879 Sunderland, Durham

Piece: 4997 Folio: 7 Page: 8
Registration District: Sunderland
Civil Parish: Bishop Wearmouth

Address: Thompson St, Bishop Wearmouth County: Durham

Can't see any column called Education and Employment status?

Sorry it was on An*****try

Do you have this? James is the son-in-law of John Hazard:

1871 England Census
about James Eden Name: James Eden
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Son-in-law
Spouse's Name: Grace Eden
Gender: Male
Where born: Poplar, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Sunderland
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
Town: Sunderland
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: East Sunderland
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 342
Piece: 5015
Folio: 28
Page Number: 55
Household Members: Name Age
John Hazard 61
Patience Hazard 28
John W Hazard 25
Johnson Hazard 19
John H Hazard 10
Jane Booth 30
James Eden 24
Grace Eden 23
Mary J Eden 2
Patience H Eden 1

Thanks Margee yes i have all the census it was the subscribe part of the 1881 census about Education i was hoping for more info on trying to tie him in for his schooldays before coming to sunderland

Makem - do you know who his parents were? - there are some London school records on Ancestry

Hi Marie its a strange story. He was born in london with no birth certificate except his father on marriage was Thomas, I believe i then find him 1851 & 1861 living with grandparents in Croft Darlington then he turns up marrying Grace Hazard in sunderland in 1868 still have not found definate links from london-croft -sunderland so i am grasping at any straws
There is a baptism in St Andrews Holborn 1846 states parents Thomas & Jane Eden

Makem do you have a tree on Ancestry??? Coz I may be able to answer your country movements

Others may have seen this to

i do have part of my tree on Ancestry as well as on here

yes sorry !!!

was it Jane Palliser is father was married to coz it seems she died in 1852 (cant find death yet) and went on to marry mary Ann Mills and had 8 more children

Yes that is the tree i BELIEVE to be correct Jane died in Hurworth 1852 near darlington Ithink that was Jame's mother I never found why he was born in london or why james was not living with parents Thomas and Jane except Jane had a new baby in 1850 Mary Ann so maybe he was sent to live with grandparents just over the river as maybe Jane was unwell after the birth.then as you say Thomas remarried and James stayed with grandparents,next he appears in sunderland, but i can not proove any of this

no you cant prove it but it seems to be the most likely and it may be that his new wife wouldnt look after the first lot of children so the only solution was to send them to the grand parents

1851 England Census
about Mary Ann Eden
Name: Mary Ann Eden
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thos Eden
Mother's name: Jane Eden
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Hurworth, Durham, England

Civil parish: Hurworth
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Darlington
Sub-registration district: Darlington
ED, institution, or vessel: 15a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 8
Piece: 2382
Folio: 126
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Thos Eden 27
Jane Eden 28
Mary Ann Eden 1
Elizabeth Anderson 13 >>>>> servent

Thats the way i read it yet new wife kept baby mary ann i suppose grandparents were too old or to busy for a baby.I have tried conntacting Croft schools for records and have tried to find where he worked after leaving school before coming to sunderland just to make links, thats why i was wondering what extra info was on the 1881 census when it says subscribe for more information on the Education & Employment Status as i am not now a paid member of An***try

1861 England Census
about Mary A Eden
Name: Mary A Eden
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas Eden
Mother's name: Mary Eden
Gender: Female
Where born: Hurworth, Durham, England

Civil parish: Hurworth upon Tees
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Darlington
Sub-registration district: Darlington
ED, institution, or vessel: 25e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 21
Piece: 3683
Folio: 40
Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Eden 38
Mary Eden 25
Mary A Eden 11
Elizabeth Eden 7
Margaret Eden 5
Christopher Eden 3
Jane Eden 4 Months
John Todd Goldsbro 17 .......apprentice

This is the new wife and the first wife first child

1881 England Census
about James Eden Name: James Eden
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Grace Eden
Gender: Male
Where born: London, London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Bishopwearmouth
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address: Thompson St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: Subscribe now to see this information.
Occupation: Drapers Ass

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: South Bishop Wearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 13a

I cant find anything on the schools or where he worked after school .....

Thanks K/T can you see in the above 1881 census where it says subscribe to see info
Probably nothing extra
thanks for trying

Oh yes I see what you mean but when you do subscribe it says VIEW IMAGE
Thats why we couldnt see what u ment !!!! blond day

Anyway I,ve looked and theres nothing at all extra to be seen ....good luck hope some of this has helpped I did look under schools but nothing there

Cheers K/T its old ground i keep coming back to and i had not noticed that subscribe bit before so i was grasping at straws. thanks