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I'm trying to trace a Charles Oliver (c1830), married to Anne Hickley 1853 on Frederick (c1957), grandchildren William (1879) and Nellie Amy (1884). I've come to a dead end. Don't know where he originates from or anything before these dates. Hoping someone can help.

Marje

Buy his marriage cert - it will tell you his father.

Marriages Dec 1853
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Hickley Ann Islington 1b 372
Oliver Charles Islington 1b 372

A copy of his marriage certificate should name his father:

Name: Charles Oliver
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1853
Registration district: Islington
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 372

His father was named Charles. Here is an extract from the certificate:

Name: Charles Oliver (Occ Bootmaker)
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Age: 25
Spouse Name: Anne Hickley
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 16 Oct 1853
Parish: Islington St Peter
Borough: Islington
Father Name: Charles Oliver (Occ Bootmaker)
Spouse Father Name: James William Hickley (Occ Chronometer maker)
Register Type: Parish Register

welcome to the boards Marje - what relation is Frederick?

Son I think Ann, S is missing

??

Charles Oliver
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth: 25 Feb 1832
christening: 30 Jun 1837 SAINT LEONARDS,?SHOREDITCH,?LONDON,?ENGLAND
parents: William Oliver,? Elizabeth


name: Charles Oliver
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 30 Jun 1837
baptism/christening place: SAINT LEONARDS,SHOREDITCH,LONDON,ENGLAND
birth date: 25 Feb 1832
father's name: William Oliver
mother's name: Elizabeth
indexing project (batch) number: C04080-7
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 396240, 396241, 396242

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Charles Oliver
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Age: 25
Spouse Name: Anne Hickley
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 16 Oct 1853
Parish: Islington St Peter
Borough: Islington
Father Name: Charles Oliver
Spouse Father Name: James William Hickley
Register Type: Parish Register

Births Jun 1884
Oliver Nellie Amy Barnet 3a 230

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name: Charles Oliver
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 72
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: East Spitalfields, London
record type: Household
registration district: St Saviour Southwark
sub-district: St Mary Newington
ecclesiastical parish: Walworth St John
civil parish: Newington
county: London, Middlesex

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Charles Oliver
Name: Charles Oliver
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Age: 25
Spouse Name: Anne Hickley
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 16 Oct 1853
Parish: Islington St Peter
Borough: Islington
Father Name: Charles Oliver - Boot maker
Spouse Father Name: James William Hickley - Chronometer maker
Register Type: Parish Register

Dea x

Maybe this one ?

1841 England Census
about Charles Oliver
Name: Charles Oliver
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St James Clerkenwell
Hundred: Ossulstone (Finsbury Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Clerkenwell
Sub-registration district: Amwell
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 659
Book: 6
Folio: 36
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Oliver 40
Louisa Oliver 37
Charles Oliver 14
John Oliver 12
James Oliver 10
Louisa Oliver 7
Richard Oliver 3
Frederick Oliver 1
Isabella Rowlee 40
James Bloomfield 42
William Martin 57
Jane Martin 16
Thomas Edward 35
Amelia Edward 35
Eliza Edward 3
John Naylor 60




Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 659; Book: 6; Civil Parish: St James Clerkenwell; County: Middlesex; Enumeration District: 5; Folio: 36; Page: 15; Line: 15; GSU roll: 438776.

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Charles Oliver
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 14 Oct 1832
Father's Name: Charles Oliver
Mother's name: Martha Oliver
Parish or Poor Law Union: Shoreditch St Leonard
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Registers


(born 2nd February 1826)



(Henry Oliver and George Benjamin Oliver baptised on the same day)

Here is Frederick in 1861:

1861:
Name: Fredk Oliver
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Islington, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Clerkenwell St James
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Clerkenwell
Sub-registration district: Pentonville
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 27
Piece: 195
Folio: 1
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
James Heckley 30
Cecilia Heckley 19
Fredk Heckley 16
Fredk Oliver 6

1841

RG number: HO107
Piece: 707
Book/Folio: 8/9
Page: 10
Reg. District: Shoreditch
Sub District: Hoxton New Town
Parish: St Leonard Shoreditch
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Tower Hamlets
Address: Chart Street, Great, St Leonard Shoreditch, Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

OLIVER, Martha F 30 1811 Middlesex
>>>>>OLIVER, Charles M 15 1826 Middlesex
OLIVER, Henry M 13 1828 Middlesex

Frederick in 1871???

Name: Frederic Oliver
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Gender: Male
Where born: Islington, St Mary, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Islington St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington East
ED, institution, or vessel: St Mary Islington Workhouse School
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 308
Folio: 94
Page Number: 1

one of the children's birth certificates will confirm parents -

but possibly -

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Charles Oliver
Spouse Name: Martha Stevens
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 12 Sep 1825
Parish: Spitalfields Christ Church with St Mary and St Stephen
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Register

a tree on Ancestry has him dying in 1873 -


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966

Name: Charles Oliver
Probate Date: 26 Sep 1874
Death Date: 14 Dec 1873
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Registry: Principal Registry

The Will with 2 Codicils of Charles Oliver, formerly of 7 Marlborough Road, Queen's Road, Dalston, but lately of 126 Weymouth Terrace, Hackney Road, Saddler and Harness maker, who died at 126 Weymouth Terrace, was proved by William Walton of 400 Essex Road, Islington, Oil and Colourman, and Edmund Minot Davey of 68 Alma Street, New North Road, Hoxton, Accountant, the Executors

Effects - under £200

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915

Name: Charles Oliver
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1873
Age at Death: 66
Registration district: Shoreditch
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 139

Just for the record, I think that this is Ann Hickley in 1851:

Name: Ann Hickley
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James Hickley
Mother's name: Elizabeth Hickley
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Islington, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington East
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 110
Piece: 1501
Folio: 724
Page Number: 25
Household Members:
Name Age
James Hickley 50
Elizabeth Hickley 49
James Hickley 27
Jane Hickley 25
Ann Hickley 21
Isabella Hickley 14
Celia Hickley 9
Fredk Hickley 6

the Charles Oliver who died in 1873 is this one - perhaps he left Martha and 'took up' with Sarah?

(or maybe not the same Charles Oliver)


1871

RG number: RG10
Piece: 465
Folio: 86
Page: 55
Reg. District: Shoreditch
Sub District: Haggerstone, West
Parish: St Leonard Shoreditch
Enum. District: 15
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Weymouth Terrace, St Leonard Shoreditch
County: London, Middlesex

OLIVER, Charles Head M 64 1807 Middlesex (Saddler) (born City)
OLIVER, Sarah Wife F 51 1820 Middlesex
BEAUFORT, Rachael Servant F 16 1855 Middlesex