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Lines - trying to find a marriage

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Michelle

Michelle Report 8 Nov 2012 09:41

Can anyone help me, I have been searching and searching with very little success.

My grandfather was James William Lines 1912-1977 and his father was William George Lines b.1874. I have found Willaim's marriage to his first wife (my great grandmother); Annie Elizabeth Bradberry 1875-1918 but have been unable to find details of his second marriage - we believe it was very soon after the death of Annie, one or two years later. The area is likely to be Islington, London as it appears that the majority of the family didn't wander too far.

Any help / pointers in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks
Michelle

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Nov 2012 09:43

Why do you think he married a second time ?

Michelle

Michelle Report 8 Nov 2012 09:46

It was something our grandfather often spoke about - he must have mentioned at some time her name ... but I just can't recall what it was

Dea

Dea Report 8 Nov 2012 09:52

There is this one, though somewhat later ?

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Marjorie K Beazley

Name: Marjorie K Beazley
Spouse Surname: James W Lines
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1936
Registration district: Islington
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 549

Dea x

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Nov 2012 09:55

Is that his probate record in 1961 ?

Name: William George Lines
Probate Date: 16 May 1961
Death Date: 5 Mar 1961
Death Place: Surrey, England
Registry: London, England


The Bungalow, 29 Ayebridge Avenue Egham
Probate to William Albert Rennison, ironmongers assistant.
Effects £1784 7s

Michelle

Michelle Report 8 Nov 2012 09:55

Hi Dea
This is the marriage of my grandparents :-D
Michelle

Choccy

Choccy Report 8 Nov 2012 09:56





is this him ? - living at 60 Thorpedale Road, Islington, with Emily Lines -


does the address ring any bells?


London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965

Name: William George Lines
Year: 1922
County or Borough: Islington
Ward or Division/Constituency: Islington North and West


Michelle

Michelle Report 8 Nov 2012 09:57

Hi GlitterBaby
His probate record in 1961? Where will I find the details for this please?
Michelle

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Nov 2012 09:58

Just updated the Probate details for you but does not help much

Choccy

Choccy Report 8 Nov 2012 10:02



same address in 1911

1911

RG14PN828 RG78PN29 RD10 SD3 ED8 SN322
Reg. District: Islington
Sub District: Tollington
Parish: Islington
Enum. District: 8
Address: 60 Thorpedale Road Tollington Park London NO
County: London


LINES, William George Head Married M 36 1875 House Carpenter London St Pancras
LINES, Annie Elizabeth Wife Married
13 years F 35 1876 London Islington
LINES, Annie Louisa Daughter Single F 13 1898 School London Islington
LINES, Leonard Son Single M 11 1900 School London Islington
LINES, Robert Son Single M 9 1902 School London Islington
LINES, Alfred Son M 5 1906 School London Islington
LINES, Frank Son M 3 1908 London Islington
LINES, Amelia Daughter F 0 (10 MONTHS) 1911 London Islington




In 1932 Frank Herbert Lines is living with him at 60 Thorpedale Road, Islington, but no sign of Emily.


Dea

Dea Report 8 Nov 2012 10:03

Possible?

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about James Lines

Name: James Lines
Spouse Surname: Grace Rogers
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1920
Registration district: Willesden
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 534

Dea x

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Nov 2012 10:03

No idea what the connection is to George William Lines - perhaps a friend or neighbour

Name: William Albert Rennison
Birth Date: 8 Apr 1903
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1983
Age at Death: 80
Registration district: Surrey North Western
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 17
Page: 0523

Michelle

Michelle Report 8 Nov 2012 10:03

Hi

GlitterBaby - I'm not sure if that is his probate record - the William Albert Rennison doesn't ring any bells at all - although, I do remember my grandmother and mother talking about visiting him in a bungalow (maybe a coincidence)

Choccy - yes, this address is definately one he lived in and I know that there weren't any children in the family named Emily - maybe this is it. I just need to try and locate a marriage record

Michelle
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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 8 Nov 2012 10:05

??

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about William G Lines
Name: William G Lines
Spouse Name: Emily Couzens
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1920
Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 1447

Choccy

Choccy Report 8 Nov 2012 10:09



she is still at 60 Thorpedale Road in 1929 -

there are two deaths around that time -


Deaths Jun 1929 (>99%)
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Lines Emily 50 Islington 1b 260

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Deaths Jun 1930 (>99%)
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Lines Emily 53 Islington 1b 201



Michelle

Michelle Report 8 Nov 2012 10:10

Hi Choccy

The details you found for 1911 are absolutely correct and are my grandfathers family - he wasn't born until the following year which is why he doesn't appear

I'm guessing for a name to appear on the electoral roll then the individual had to be of voting age and in 1921 which would lead to Emily being a fairly good guesstimate and my grandfather wouldn't appear as he would only have been 9 years of age

In 1932 my grandfather was actually lodging in my grandmothers parents home which would be why he wouldn't appear on that electoral roll

Michelle

Choccy

Choccy Report 8 Nov 2012 10:10



England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966

Name: Emily Lines
Probate Date: 2 Sep 1929
Death Date: 20 Apr 1929
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Registry: London, England


of 60 Thorpedale Road, Finsbury Park
wife of William George Lines
administration to the said William George Lines, joiner
Effects- £426 17s 2d.


must be this one -

Deaths Jun 1929 (>99%)
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Lines Emily 50 Islington 1b 260

Michelle

Michelle Report 8 Nov 2012 10:13

Hi PricklyHolly

Thank you ... Emily Couzens looks like a possibility

Michelle

Michelle

Michelle Report 8 Nov 2012 10:16

Hi Choccy

WOW ... it looks as though we've definately established her name as Emily - great news ... thank you

Michelle

Michelle

Michelle Report 8 Nov 2012 10:17

Hi Mel

Thank you ... yes, I think, based on all the help I received in the last few minutes - this is the right Emily

Thanks again,
Michelle