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Robert Dick born c1875/1876

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OneFootInTheGrave

OneFootInTheGrave Report 14 Dec 2012 15:59

I am trying to confirm the actual birth of a Robert Dick born c1875/1876. I have found Robert on the 1881 census and 1891 censuses for Scotland. He is the son of Robert Dick and Jane Young who were married on 18/12/1874 in Bothwell in Lanarkshire, the family were farmers in the Holytown area of Lanarkshire, Scotland.

On Scotlands People I have managed to track down his parents marriage, the births of their other children, and details of their ancestors, but I cannot find any birth details for Robert.

Any suggestions?

Regards,

James

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 14 Dec 2012 16:05

maybe he was born before the parents married so was registered under mums maiden name

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 14 Dec 2012 16:08

if this is him says he was born in Ireland
1881 census
Name: Robert Dick
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Robert Dick
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration number: 644/10
Registration district: Anderston
Civil parish: Glasgow Anderston
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 14 Richard St
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 59
Household schedule number: 76
Line: 20
Roll: cssct1881_241
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Dick 44
Margaret M Dick 19
Charles E Dick 17
Robert Dick 8

Gee

Gee Report 14 Dec 2012 16:12

Is this the census you ref


1881 Scotland Census
about Robert Dick
Name: Robert Dick
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Robert Dick
Mother's Name: Jane Dick
Gender: Male
Where born: Bothwell, Lanarksh:
Registration number: 625/2
Registration district: Holytown
Civil parish: Bothwell
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Richard Johnston
ED: 8
Household schedule number: 154
Line: 11
Roll: cssct1881_204
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Dick 30
Jane Dick 31
Robert Dick 5
Stephen Dick 4
James Dick 2
Margaret Burns 19


Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 14 Dec 2012 16:13

??
1891 census
Name: Robert Dick
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Robert Dick
Mother's Name: Jane Dick
Gender: Male
Where born: Bothwell, Lanarkshire
Registration number: 625/2
Registration district: Holytown
Civil parish: Bothwell
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Ricardjohnston Farm
Occupation: Farmer's Son
ED: 8
Household schedule number: 97
Line: 8
Roll: CSSCT1891_226
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Dick 40
Jane Dick 41
Robert Dick 15
Stephen Dick 14
James Dick 12
William Dick 7
John Dick 8 Mo
Jessie Clelland 23
Elizabeth Wilson 16

Source Citation: Parish: Bothwell; ED: 8; Page: 24; Line: 8; Roll: CSSCT1891_226



If you dont have his birth cert how do you know its the right Robert Dick. There are several with the same name born around the similar birth years

OneFootInTheGrave

OneFootInTheGrave Report 14 Dec 2012 16:19

Thanks Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it,

I love your member name :-)

I wish I could get the hang of this genealogy lark, old age and poor eyesight does not help.

It is definitely not that Irish one, also I have had a look for him under his mothers name but no joy with that.

Best Wishes,

James

Gee

Gee Report 14 Dec 2012 16:20

1901 Scotland Census
about Robert Dick
Name: Robert Dick
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Robert Dick
Mother's Name: Jane Young Dick
Gender: Male
Where born: Bothwell, lanark S
Registration number: 639
Registration district: Dalziel
Civil parish: Dalziel
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Craigneuk Woodlee Cottage
Occupation: Green Lorryman
ED: 32
Household schedule number: 121
Line: 10
Roll: CSSCT1901_261
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Dick 51
Jane Young Dick 51
Robert Dick 25
James Dick 23
William Dick 17
John Bell Dick 10


OneFootInTheGrave

OneFootInTheGrave Report 14 Dec 2012 16:22

Hi Gins and Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it,

Yes, that's the family in 1881 and 1891, it's just Robert the son I have a problem with.

James

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 14 Dec 2012 16:24

James, I think what Shirley was asking is how you got back to this Robert and how you know which one is the right one - as she says, there are quite a few. I assume you have some other info, such as parents' names from his marriage cert for example?
Jan

Gee

Gee Report 14 Dec 2012 16:27

There are 19 birth matches (1875 -1876) on SP, have you checked every one of them?

OneFootInTheGrave

OneFootInTheGrave Report 14 Dec 2012 17:21

Hi brummiejan,

I have no information regarding a marriage for Robert Dick born c1875/1876, the marriage details I have are for his parents Robert Dick and Jane Young who were married on 18/12/1874 in Bothwell in Lanarkshire and I confirmed that marriage on Scotlands People.

The only information I have for Robert Dick born c1875/1876 is that from the 1891 and 1891 census returns on whic he appears along with his siblings whose births I have also confirmed on Scotlands People.

Regards,

James


Gee

Gee Report 14 Dec 2012 17:27

I also posted the 1901 census. You could check the 1911 on SP



There are 19 birth matches (1875 -1876) on SP, have you checked every one of them?

Im guessing you missed that post(s)

OneFootInTheGrave

OneFootInTheGrave Report 14 Dec 2012 18:04

Thank you Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it, brummiejan, and Gins,

Problem now solved, when Gins said she had found 19 births on SP I redefined my search and found his Birth Certificate, he was born on 13/05/1875.

1875 DICK ROBERT M BOTHWELL /LANARK 625/01

The image of the Birth Certificate confirms his parents as Robert Dick and Jane Young so it is the correct person.

Mistake I made was that as all the other children were born in Holytown, Lanarkshire, Scotland, and that was also where his parents resided, I searched to narrowly just using Holytown. After what Gins said I changed the place of birth to Bothwell in Lanarkshire which was the parish that used to cover Holytown and there it was.

Always amazed how sharing a problem throws light on finding the solution, so many thanks to everyone, keep up the excellent work.

Best Wishes,

James