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Samantha

Samantha Report 21 Dec 2012 17:14

Hi,

I think I've found my great great grandfather James Pullen born in 1861 but I need help finding his wife and what her maiden name is.

I know that they had a family who were born in Eastbourne and that his wife's name is Annie but I'm not sure where she is from, what her maiden name is and when she died. Can anyone help please?

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 21 Dec 2012 17:16

??????????

James H Pullen
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1861 Petworth,? Sussex
census: 31 Mar 1901 Eastbourne,? Sussex,? England


name: James H Pullen
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 40
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Petworth, Sussex
record type: Household
registration district: Eastbourne
sub-district: Eastbourne
ecclesiastical parish: Eastbourne St Mary
civil parish: Eastbourne
county: Sussex

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 21 Dec 2012 17:18

Annie M Pullen
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1861 Brighton,? Sussex
census: 31 Mar 1901 Eastbourne,? Sussex,? England


name: Annie M Pullen
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Female
age: 40
relationship to head of household: Wife
birthplace: Brighton, Sussex
record type: Household
registration district: Eastbourne
sub-district: Eastbourne
ecclesiastical parish: Eastbourne St Mary
civil parish: Eastbourne
county: Sussex

Catherine

Catherine Report 21 Dec 2012 17:19

Is this them?

1891 England Census about James H Pullen
Name: James H Pullen
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie M Pullen
Gender: Male
Where born: Petworth, Sussex, England
Civil parish: Eastbourne
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Eastbourne
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation: Baker

Registration district: Eastbourne
Sub-registration district: Eastbourne
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 771
Folio: 46
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
James H Pullen 30
Annie M Pullen 30 - born: Brighton, Sussex
James H Pullen 2
Jesse W Pullen 1
Annie C Pullen 2/12
Morris G Pullen 23 - Brother born: Petworth, Sussex
......................................................

Marriages Mar 1888 (>99%)
xxx CEAPLEN Annie Maria Eastbourne 2b 113
Holdstock Philadelphia Eastbourne 2b 113
Pavey Edward Eastbourne 2b 113
xxx PULLEN James Henry Eastbourne 2b 113

The birth certificate of one of the children will confirm if this is correct or not!

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Dec 2012 17:20

Look on freebmd for a marriage

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Dec 2012 17:21

Which of their children was your great grandparent?

Catherine

Catherine Report 21 Dec 2012 17:29

Full 1901

1901 England Census about James H Pullen
Name: James H Pullen
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie M Pullen
Gender: Male
Where born: Petworth, Sussex, England
Civil parish: Eastbourne
Ecclesiastical parish: Eastbourne St Mary
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Eastbourne
Sub-registration district: Eastbourne
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 70
Piece: 879
Folio: 55
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
James H Pullen 40
Annie M Pullen 40
James H Pullen 12
Jesse W Pullen 11
Annie C Pullen 10
Dorothy W Pullen 2
...................................................

Same family in 1911:-

1911 England Census about James Pullen
Name: James Pullen
Age in 1911: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Petworth, Sussex
Civil parish: West Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street Address: 131 Wellington Road, Forest Gate
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Baker
Registration district: West Ham
Registration District Number: 188
Sub-registration district: Forest Gate
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Household schedule number: 80
Piece: 9397
Household Members:
Name Age
James Pullen 50
Annie Pullen 50
James Pullen 22
John Pullen 15
Dorothy Pullen 12
..................................................

another version:-

PULLEN, James Head Married M 50 1861 Baker Sussex Petworth VIEW
PULLEN, Annie Wife Married23 years F 50 1861 Sussex Brighton VIEW
PULLEN, James Son Single M 22 1889 Baker Sussex Eastbourne VIEW
PULLEN, John Son Single M 15 1896 Shop Assistant Sussex Eastbourne VIEW
PULLEN, Dorothy Daughter F 12 1899 School Sussex Eastbourne

8 children - 5 living and 3 died

.......................can you confirm if this is the correct family?

Catherine

Catherine Report 21 Dec 2012 17:35

" If " this is the correct family, then this is a possible death for Annie:-

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Annie M Pullen
Name: Annie M Pullen
Birth Date: abt 1860
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1923
Age at Death: 63
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 32
...............................................................................

and a possible for James:-

Deaths Jun 1930 (>99%)
Pullen James H 69 W. Ham 4a 267

Catherine

Catherine Report 21 Dec 2012 17:45

Yes, I saw that jax so have edited my posting.
Silly me!

Samantha

Samantha Report 21 Dec 2012 18:02

Hi,
Yes I think that is all correct..
Reggie: My great grandfather was John Pullen (I never met him.. and he died when my nan was only 6, therefore we don't have much info)

Thanks everyone!!



MargaretM

MargaretM Report 21 Dec 2012 19:01

Possible marriage on FreeBMD:

Marriages Mar 1888 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

CEAPLEN Annie Maria Eastbourne 2b 113
PULLEN James Henry Eastbourne 2b 113

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 21 Dec 2012 19:04

Birth of Annie?

Births Jun 1860 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

CEAPLEN Ann Maria Peirce Brighton 2b 189

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Dec 2012 21:02

Don't know if this is your John:

British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
Name: John Pullen
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Age at enlistment: 18
Birth County: Sussex
Document Year: 1912
Regiment Name: RA (RH & RFA)
Number of images: 33

Errand boy, born Petworth.

Married Charlotte Jane Ca****n in Plumstead 10 February 1916. Had a son John William.

There are 33 pages, mostly in poor condition on the images so will wait for confirmation if right chap before ploughing through.

EDIT: Marriage record on FreeBMD shows Charlotte's surname as Calnon

Catherine

Catherine Report 21 Dec 2012 21:06

As we seem to have the correct family, then this looks to be earlier census records for James (although you will have to buy the marriage certificate to absotlutely sure, as it will give you father's names and occupations):-

1861 England Census about James Pullen
Name: James Pullen
Age: 6 Months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Pullen
Mother's Name: Mary Pullen
Gender: Male
Where born: Petworth, Sussex, England
Civil parish: Petworth
Town: Petworth
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street Address:
Registration district: Petworth
Sub-registration district: Petworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 191
Piece: 611
Folio: 48
Page Number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
James Pullen 25 - occupation:- Groom
Mary Pullen 23
Jesse W Pullen 2
James Pullen 6 Months
...........................................................................

1871 England Census about James Pullen
Name: James Pullen
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Pullen
Mother's Name: Mary Pullen
Gender: Male
Where born: Petworth, Sussex, England
Civil parish: Brighton
Town: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Registration district: Brighton
Sub-registration district: St Peter
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 101
Piece: 1076
Folio: 130
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
James Pullen 32 - born: Petworth, Sussex, (occupation:- Police Constable)
Mary Pullen 32 - born: Petworth, Sussex,
James Pullen 10
Frederick Pullen 8
Alice M Pullen 6
Maurice G Pullen 4
Annie Pullen 3 Months
................................................................................

1881 England Census about James Pullen
Name: James Pullen
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Petworth, Sussex, England
Civil parish: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street Address: 47 Cheapside

Occupation: Bakers Assistant
Registration district: Brighton
Sub-registration district: St Peter
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1087
Folio: 36
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
James Tully 35
Mary Tully 38
Alice Tully 10
John Tully 7
Edith Tully 5
Minnie Tully 5
Frederick Tully 1
Robert (Sen) Tully 74
Mary Maker 27
James Pullen 21
George Croft 15
Harriet Box 20

Catherine

Catherine Report 21 Dec 2012 21:31

John is with the family in 1911 but wondered where he was in 1901?

This looks to be him:-

1901 England Census about John Tullen
Name: John Tullen
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Patient
Gender: Male
Where born: Eastbourne, Sussex, England
Civil parish: Eastbourne
Ecclesiastical parish: Eastbourne St Mary
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street Address: Borough Sanitaurium

Registration district: Eastbourne
Sub-registration district: Eastbourne
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 197
Piece: 879
Folio: 27
Page Number: 45

Samantha

Samantha Report 21 Dec 2012 21:35

That's fab.. Helps a lot!!

Can anyone find anything on Annie? This is where I'm having problems!! It's like she disappears pre 1890

Janice

Janice Report 21 Dec 2012 22:48

This has been corrected to Ceaplen on the 1861 so is possibly connected:

1861

Name: Elizabeth Cerplin

Age: 73
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1788
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Cerplin
Gender: Female
Where born: Boreham, Sussex, England

Civil parish: Brighton
Town: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Registration district: Brighton
Sub-registration district: St Peter
ED, institution, or vessel: 27

Household schedule number: 148
Piece: 596
Folio: 131
Page Number: 27

Name Age
John Cerplin 68
Elizabeth Cerplin 73
Emily Cerplin 18 granddaughter
Eliza Cerplin 15 granddaughter

Janice

Janice Report 21 Dec 2012 22:51

There's also a William Ceaplin (born Sussex) and wife Elizabeth age 41 and 40 in the 1861.

He's an Inspector with the Met Police living in Westminster.

Catherine

Catherine Report 21 Dec 2012 23:00

To be sure about anything you really need to buy the marriage cert. to see who Annie's father was and what his occupation was.

I have a look for potential families, and this is the only marriage I can see up to 1865 for a male Ceaplen anywhere in the country:-

Marriages Dec 1849 (>99%)
Aucock Ruth Eastbourne 7 565
Burgess Martha Eastbourne 7 565
xxxxx Ceaplen David Thomas E. Bourne 7 565
xxxxx Godden Harriet Eastbourne 7 565
Morris Edward Eastbourne 7 565
Stephens Charles Eastbourne 7 565
Stretton Sarah Elizabeth Eastbourne 7 565
Tutt Henry Thomas Eastbourne 7 565

................it would fit with a birth in 1860 so may be worth looking into?

Catherine

Catherine Report 21 Dec 2012 23:04

This looks to be David and Harriet in 1861:-

1861 England Census about David Capelen
Name: David Capelen
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriet Capelen
Gender: Male
Where born: Eastbourne, Sussex, England
Civil parish: Eastbourne
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Eastbourne
Sub-registration district: Eastbourne
ED, institution, or vessel: 2g
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 222
Piece: 567
Folio: 43
Page Number: 49
Household Members:
Name Age
David Capelen 40
Harriet Capelen 35
Eliza Capelen 11
Fanny Capelen 10
William Capelen 6
Maria Capelen 6 born: 1855 Eastbourne, Sussex,
Harriet Capelen 4
Jane Capelen 2
Emily Capelen 1

.................there is a Maria, but no Ann Maria so maybe not the family you are looking for but most certainly a relative.