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Too true Mike!

Looked for a divorce but no sign. (I know people think divorce was beyond the reach of ordinary folk back then but there were lawyers who handled the cases on an "in forma pauperis" basis).

She wouldn't be the first to marry bigamously under her maiden name.

Re: the trees and marriages on Ancestry that Mike refers to - there is a copy of the marriage certificate to George Carter in 1913.

Henrietta Elizabeth Kerr is referred to as a spinster and her father is listed as William Henry Kerr (deceased) - Oil Cloth dealer.

When she marries William Turner Devine (as Henrietta Elizabeth Carter, widow) on 26 Dec 1917 the father's details are exactly the same as the 1913 marriage.

Looking at census and baptisms William Henry Kerr's occupation varies between general dealer, lithographic printer, auctioneer so I'd say Oil Cloth dealer fits right in.

Could do with some feedback from the poster

This looks to be Thomas Herbert in 1901


Name: Thomas H Stratton
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Jas Stratton
Mother's name: Emily Am Stratton
Gender: Male
Where born: Brixton, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Cann Hall
Ecclesiastical parish: Leytonstone St Margaret
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: South Leyton

Thomas Jas Stratton 53
Emily Am Stratton 47
Brey T D Stratton 21
Thomas H Stratton 19 <<<<<<
Lothe Stratton 17
Alfred Stratton 14
Ada Stratton 12
Sidney H Stratton 10
Harry R G Stratton 4


and 1891 ( STRATTON mistranscribed) )

Thomas I Strutton 43 ( original is actually Thomas J)
E A Strutton 37
P F Strutton 11
T H Strutton 9 <<<<<<<<<<<
A Strutton 4
Latty Strutton 7
A Strutton 2
E Strutton 45

1901 no idea if right man as he could be Thomas MacDonald Stratton

Name: Thomas Straton
[Thomas Stratton]
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Prisoner
Gender: Male
Where born: Holborn, London, England

Civil parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Lower Holloway
ED, institution, or vessel: His Majestys Prison Pentonville
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 176
Folio: 103
Page Number: 44

Name: Henrietta E Devine
Birth Date: abt 1883
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1948
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 2a
Page: 272


BUT does not prove anything at the moment




Name: Henrietta Elizabeth Devine
Probate Date: 3 Aug 1948
Death Date: 28 Mar 1948
Death Place: Kingston Upon Hull
Registry: London, England

Administration to Sydney Devine and Charles Edward Kerr

Mike

That might explain why I have not found her death in the name of Stratton

GB

A big if but if this is the son then there is this record


Name: William Henry Stratton
Age: 15
Birth Date: 14 May 1908
Residence Date: 8 Apr 1924
Station: Radyr Jcn
Company: Great Western
Class Number: 264
Piece: 263
Description: Numerical register of engine cleaners: 1-2988 1914-1935


He appears to be on 1911 but parents do not match

Make of this what you will.

One tree has Henrietta marrying twice more.
However, the 2nd marriage is in the name of Kerr not Stratton so not sure it's the same lady.



Marriage to George Carter 13 Sept 1913
Sculcoates Register Office, Hull


Marriage to William Turner Devine 26 Dec 1917
Sculcoates Register Office, Hull



I also suspect that Thomas Stratton and Thomas Herbert Stratton are 2 different people

Thomas James Stratton appeared to be a baker up to his death so it's extremely unlikely that he would be the nightwatchman on the 1903 marriage.

I think Phyllis needs to clarify his background and who he really is in order to find out what became of him.

That tree on Ancestry also claims there is another son William Henry b 1908 and dies in 1974

James Thomas dies in 1907

I think Thomas Herbert might be someone else:

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Thomas Herbert Stratton
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 29 Jan 1882
Father's Name: Thomas James Stratton - a baker
Mother's name: Emily Anne Stratton
Parish or Poor Law Union: East Brixton St Jude
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Registers

Address: 9 Cambridge Terrace, Shakespeare

Strange tree on Ancestry has the mother of Catherine as Henrietta but does not show father

Gives that Henrietta dies in 1946 in Hull

Name: James Thomas Stratton
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 29 Apr 1906
Father's Name: Thomas Stratton - labourer
Mother's name: Henrietta Elizabeth Stratton
Parish or Poor Law Union: Hoxton St Mary
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Registers

1 Vineyard Walk

Name: Catherine Elizabeth Stratton
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 31 Jul 1904
Father's Name: Thomas Stratton - bricklayers labourer
Mother's name: Henrietta Elizabeth Stratton
Parish or Poor Law Union: Hoxton St Mary
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Registers

? 7 Bakers Row, Farringdon Road

I thought this was him but it can't be if he married in 1903:-

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Thomas Herbert Stratton
Name: Thomas Herbert Stratton
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1902
Age at Death: 21
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 147

.............are you sure he had middle name Herbert, it isn't how he married?

He features in lots of trees but no-one has him after 1903.

Just wondering if this is him ?


Name: T Stratton
Gender: Male
Age: 28
Birth Date: abt 1882
Departure Date: 20 Aug 1910
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Quebec, Canada
Ship Name: Sicilian
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Sicilian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Allan Line
Official Number: 111225
Master: D Dannock

You must know some more otherwise he would not be your grandfather

Just for info

Name: Thomas Stratton - occupation of carman
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Age: 21
Spouse Name: Henrietta Elizabeth Kew
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 30 Nov 1903
Parish: Hoxton St Mary
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: James Stratton - occupation of night watchman
Spouse Father Name: William Henry Kew - deceased - auctioneer
Register Type: Parish Register


Banns are in the name of Kerr but the marriage is not so will do a name correction