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Thank you mgnv.

In my first post, I meant to say:

Using one of the local indexes at: http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd
In this case http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/

but I forgot to add the first URL.
The split betweeen Lancs & Ches is the modern one, not the historical one - similarly, Lancs in Furness is under Cumbria here.

Thank you Chris! After my ancestry sub runs out I intend to join FMP.

Diocese of Chester parish registers of baptisms c1538-1910 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) HARRIET
Last name TOMASON
Gender Female
Birth year 1843
Baptism date 22 Jan 1843
Baptism year 1843
Parish All Saints
Father's first name Samuel (Labourer)
Father's last name Tomason
Mother's first name Margaret
Mother's last name Tomason
City or town RUNCORN
County Cheshire
Country England
Record set Diocese of Chester parish registers of baptisms c1538-1910
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records

Chris :)

(FMP has quite a bit Cheshire)

Perhaps but I suppose he would have known from when he married?

The only certificate I have is for my ancestor Harriet, born 1843 - and it states:

First of January 1843 at Runcorn
Harriet
Girl
Samuel Thompson
Margaret Thompson formerly Walker
Labourer
M Thompson, Mother, her 'X' mark, Runcorn
Eleventh of January 1843

Who registered the births Peter? If it was her husband he may have just assumed that was her name....as that was his inlaws name

No checking back then, One of my gt gt gt grandmothers Is down as a married women on her 8 childrens birth certs and no mention that she had been married before.....did eventually marry the childrens father...26 years after the 1st child was born

That is fantastic mgnv - didn't know Cheshire BMD had such information.

Interesting though that although Margaret was married as PERRY she was recorded as WALKER on her children's births.

Strange.

Peter

NB If you look up the film # in the FS catalog, it tells you what church record was being filmed.

1861
Street Fryer Street
Parish Runcorn
City or borough -
Town -
County Cheshire
Country England
Municipal ward -
Parliamentary borough -
Hamlet -
Ecclesiastical district Parochial All Saints Church
Registration district Runcorn
Enumeration district 10
Piece number 2598 Folio number 58 Page number 4

Samuel Thompson Head Married Male 43 1818 Labourer At Drapery FRODSHAM, CHESHIRE
Margaret Thompson Wife Married Female 39 1822 - RUNCORN, CHESHIRE
Harriet Thompson Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1843 - RUNCORN, CHESHIRE
Louise Thompson Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1845 - RUNCORN, CHESHIRE
Frederick Thompson Son - Male 15 1846 - RUNCORN, CHESHIRE
Alfred W Thompson Son - Male 11 1850 Scholar RUNCORN, CHESHIRE
Emily Ann Thompson Granddaughter - Female 7m 1860 - RUNCORN, CHESHIRE


Using one of the local indexes at:
In this case http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/

Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1838
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
TOMPSON Samuel PERRY Margaret Runcorn, All Saints Halton C12/1/32

Cheshire Birth indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
1837-9 THOMPSON Mary Runcorn Halton PERRY RUN/2/36
1840-5 THOMPSON Caroline Runcorn Halton WALKER RUN/3/25
1840-5 THOMPSON Harriet Runcorn Halton WALKER RUN/4/77
1840-5 THOMPSON Louisa Runcorn Halton WALKER RUN/5/92
1846-50 THOMPSON Frederick Runcorn Halton WALKER RUN/7/25
1846-50 THOMPSON Sophia Runcorn Halton WALKER RUN/9/24
1846-50 THOMPSON Matilda Runcorn Halton WALKER RUN/10/83
1851 THOMPSON Alfred William Runcorn Halton WALKER RUN/12/45
1853 THOMPSON Emily Runcorn Halton WALKER RUN/13/99
1856 THOMPSON Mary Runcorn Halton WALKER RUN/17/32
1860 THOMPSON Emily Ann Runcorn Halton THOMPSON RUN/21/79


Cheshire Death indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
1839 THOMPSON Mary 0 Runcorn Halton RUN/2/11
1847 THOMPSON Caroline 6 Runcorn Halton RUN/5/74
1849 THOMPSON Sophia 1 Runcorn Halton RUN/7/29
1851 THOMPSON Matilda 1 Runcorn Halton RUN/8/10
1856 THOMPSON Mary 0 Runcorn Halton RUN/11/21
1858 THOMPSON Emily 5 Runcorn Halton RUN/12/35
1861 THOMPSON Emily Ann 0 Runcorn Halton RUN/14/11
1868 THOMPSON Margaret 47 Runcorn Halton RUN/19/28

As you'll have noticed, the local index contains info that is not found in the GRO index.
It has to contain the subdistrict/church, but this can be hidden in a code in the local ref, and isn't always made explicit, like here.
This local index has some extra info, like the mum's maiden surname pre-1911, and the age at death pre-1866.

True Jax, thanks for sharing.

I have found 14 out of 15 (1 must of died soon after birth) of my grandmothers siblings baptisms but not one for her....Her parents moved from Islington to Walthamstow when she was born so would not be on the London baptisms....but checked on Seax for Essex records....still nothing

So have a feeling they didn't bother with her...different church ect

Also if your Margaret was illigitamate, maybe the Vicar wasn't keen to baptise her?

That's true Jax, but seems odd when her siblings or half siblings were baptised.

And thank you Ann ... not sure if those entries pertain BUT they are probably connected somehow. Will have a look.

Name: Mary Parry
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 01 Mar 1818
Event Place: All Saints, Runcorn, Cheshire, England
Gender: Female
Father's Name: George Parry
Mother's Name: Margaret


GS Film number:2186943, Digital Folder Number:004019118, Image Number:

Name: William Parry
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 01 Mar 1818
Event Place: All Saints, Runcorn, Cheshire, England
Gender: Male
Father's Name: George Parry
Mother's Name: Margaret


GS Film number:1836129, Digital Folder Number:004011907, Image Number:00779

Name: Charles Parry
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 16 May 1824
Christening Place: All Saints Runcorn, Chester, England
Father's Name: George Parry
Mother's Name: Margaret


Indexing Project (Batch) Number:C86636-8, System Origin:England-ODM, GS Film number:

Name: Margaret Perry
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 24 Sep 1820
Event Place: All Saints, Runcorn, Cheshire, England
Gender: Female
Father's Name: George Perry
Mother's Name: Margaret Perry


GS Film number:1656552, Digital Folder Number:004018387, Image Number:00754

Maybe there isn't a baptism? it wasn't compulsary

There are these but surely neither of these can relate?

Margaret Perry

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 8 April 1821 St. Peters, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
residence: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

father: Thomas Perry
mother: Hannah

And another:

Margaret Walker

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 11 August 1822 Garston, Lancashire, England
residence: Garston, Lancashire, England

father: Thos. Walker
mother: Anne

Thank you for your opinions. Much appreciated.

I am still searching for the baptism of Margaret Perry but can't spot anything specifically.

Thank you again for your opinions.

Name: Margaret Perry
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 24 Sep 1820
Baptism Place: Runcorn, Cheshire, England
Father: George Perry
Mother: Margaret
FHL Film Number: 1836129