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(wished you would have said, lol, thought he was missing after 1861, or have I missed something somewhere, you said he had disappeared without a trace!)...

Chris :)

Below is that reference, but doesn't fit with childrens Births on 1881 posted above?...(Mother Maiden Name as Huntley)

Marriages Jun 1866 (>99%)
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BLOODWORTH Joseph Gloucester 6a 471
HOLLOWAY Edwin Gloucester 6a 471
RIDLER Mary A Gloucester 6a 471
Walters Eliza Gloucester 6a 471

(scratches head again lol!)

(no no checked above on Ancestry, Glos., his Father was Richard Holloway, occ. Sawyer)

Well what about this.

John Hobbs mum nee Huntley Bradford Wiltshire j qtr 1870 V05a P 135
bap by mary ann and Alfred hobbs.

Alfred Hobbs 25 dad Job married 26/6/1864 to Mary Ann Hantty dad William Huntley.
They also had Mary Jane 1868
Caroline 1866 in 1871 they are visiting Thomas Gerrish who married Ann Hobbs born 1823 her mum was Mary Hobbs 1795.

Mary Jane Hobbs baptised by Alfred and Mary Ann of WINE St (same address for Nimrod Hunt mentioned above).

On baptism for John in 1870 they were at Wine street.

If John Holloway 1870 is actually John Hobbs then Mary Ann wasn't free to marry Edwin/Edward!!

No sign of Alfred 1871 but 1881 he is a lodger on his own but married.
Can't find Mary Ann or John Hobbs in 1871.

Maryb.

(oh lol, not Nimrod again!!)

Chris :)

http://www.wiltshirebmd.org.uk/birthsearch.php

(Hobbs/Huntley Births on above)


(might be below!)

02 June 1883 - Wiltshire Times and Trowbridge Advertiser - Trowbridge

A Mother And Her Ungrateful Sons.
Alfred Hobbs and Simon Hobbs were summoned to show cause as to why they should not contribute to the support of their aged mother, Mary Hobbs, who was chargeable to the Guardians of the Union. Mr. A. Beavan, clerk to the Board, stated that it was the worst case he had ever known, and the sons had declared that "rather than pay anything to their mother they would see her in h- " (shame).
The whole family had been an expense to the union in former years, and had shown themselves most ungrateful for the help they received....


1861 (Find My Past)
Job Hobbs Head Married Male 73 1788 Agricultural Labourer Westwood, Wiltshire, England
Mary Hobbs Wife Married Female 65 1796 Agricultural Labourer Westwood, Wiltshire, England
Simon Hobbs Son Unmarried Male 25 1836 Agricultural Labourer Westwood, Wiltshire, England
Alfred Hobbs Son Unmarried Male 21 1840 Agricultural Labourer Westwood, Wiltshire, England
Silas Hobbs Son Unmarried Male 19 1842 Agricultural Labourer Westwood, Wiltshire, England
Lower Westwood, Westwood, Bradford on Avon, Wiltshire,


(so chances are then, Find Edward 1871, and Mary could be with him)...


Wiltshire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1916 (Ancestry)

Alfred Hobbes
19 Apr 1840 Westwood
Job (occ. Labourer)
Mary

Sorry Chris and Mary, I meant since you told me all that extra info, and AustinQ that I found Edwin/ Edward. Not that I’d found him before. I couldn’t trace him.
However, you’re right about John Holloway 1841 as he’s Edwin’s brother, but then Edwin has a son called John!!!
The names John, Edward, and George keep reoccurring in the family. I also discovered that the surname was mis spelt in different ways on the censuses, so that doesn’t help either.
I found two Edward Holloway’s in Bristol area who could be the one in question, one died in 1907 the other in 1915.
I did manage with your help to find Edwin on 1861 1871 1881 and 1891 census. That’s all so far but without your help I wouldn’t have got so far.
There is Edwin Holloway marrying Mary Ann Ridler in Gloucester district in 1866, so I wonder if this is his wife not the other ones mentioned?
Thanks again for the help you’ve given me. Edwin is missing no longer

Glyn did you miss my posting, see the below one...

(it's not that 1866 Marriage, his Father is Richard Holloway)

Chris :)

Chris Ho :) Report Edit Delete 3 Feb 2018 20:29

Have added the 1864 Marriage references, posted by Mary above...

Chris :)

Marriages Jun 1864 (>99%)
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Hobbs Alford Bradford W 5a 213
Huntley Mary Ann Bradford W 5a 213


Wiltshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns (Ancestry)

Name: Alfred Hobbs (Bachelor, occ. Labourer)
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Birth Date: abt 1839
Marriage or Bann Date: 26 Jun 1864
Marriage or Bann Place: Westwood, Wiltshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Westwood
Father: Job Hobbs (occ. Labourer)
Spouse: Mary A Huntley ( 21. Spinster)
Father: William Huntley
(witnesses, George St?, May ann Huntley)


(and his Mother below I would say)

All Wiltshire, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813-1916 (Ancestry)

Mary Hobbs abt 1796 1 Mar 1887 Westwood
(Abode, The Union)


(and Mary Huntley below, notes Bradford as Birthplace on 1881 posted earlier by AQ)

Wiltshire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1916 (Ancestry)

Name: Mary Ann Huntley
Baptism Date: 26 Dec 1843
Baptism Place: Bradford on Avon, Wiltshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Bradford
Father:William Huntley (occ. Labourer)
Mother: Maria Huntley

No sorry Chris I missed that.
I was a bit confused about the Hobbs connection. The family is definitely Holloway not Hobbs. It’s spelt in various ways on the census Holloway, Hollaway, Holdaway..and apart from Edwin/ Edward they lived in Bratton Westbury.
I know that’s not very far from Bradford on Avon but I don’t think the Hobbs and Huntley connection is correct.
Thank you for trying
Glyn

Glyn, I think you need to read back, perhaps take some time to digest...

(Mary Huntley/Hobbs probably had a better life with Edward/Edwin Holloway, by the looks of things!)

Chris :)

Also we have a connection with a Edwin being around Wine Street where the Hobbs family lived!!

Maryb

(have now added other Census for Huntleys, see below posting...(1861 they were also Wine Street)

(and wherever Edward/Edwin and Mary were 1871, she had just lost her Mother Maria, her Death 1871 mar qtr.)


Chris Ho :) Report Edit Delete 3 Feb 2018 18:50

Thank you both

Nice work Mary and Chris! It's great when it all comes together.

(well all thanks to your good self AQ, for adding that 1881 Census, gave a bit more to work from, lol)

Chris :)

(going out shortly, but am sure they will still be on my mind, lol, gets you like that!)

Just annoying we cant find Mary and Edwin/Edward in 1871 or Alfred Hobbs 1871.



Maryb.

Mary, wondering if this is Edward and Mary in 1871. Their place of birth is out, but the ages are right and Edward is a farm labourer as in 1881:

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Hanham Road, Bitton, Keynsham, Gloucestershire, England

Edward Holloway Lodger - Male 24 1847 Farmer's labourer Somerset, England
Mary Holloway Wife - Female 27 1844 - Somerset, England
John Holloway Son - Male 1 1870 - Somerset, England

Could be Austin
Bradford on Avon looks very close to Somerset border.

Maryb.

Yes only just up the road a few miles from Keynsham. Seems it could well be. Thanks everyone. Glyn