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malyon

malyon Report 15 Jul 2019 23:21

pamela could try to find the son of may ellen i sent her his last address in bexhill

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Jul 2019 22:45

M Wall was still there at 7 May 2008, but not in any year after that.

I don't know why she wasn't listed in 2007.

malyon

malyon Report 15 Jul 2019 22:01

was a shame he had no children

Choccy

Choccy Report 15 Jul 2019 21:01


Flat 17 Stokes House, Sutherland Avenue, Bexhill on Sea was sold on the 9th December 2011.


ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Jul 2019 20:32

Mrs M Wall was still listed as a "member" (and therefore a resident) on 7 May 2004, but she's not listed on 7 May 2007.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Jul 2019 19:58

Aha!

Looking further into the Companies House record, there's this:

https://tinyurl.com/yyet67dj

It says Harold stopped being a director because of death on 8 July 1998.

DOB 28/5/16

Unfortunately it doesn't say where he died.


EDIT:
I don't think that tinyurl link works.

Try this:
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/02403861/filing-history?page=4

See the PDF dated 18 Feb 1999.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Jul 2019 19:41

Hmmm - this is the GR record, with address removed:

UK Electoral Registers & Companies House Directors 2002-2018
First Name: Harold Sidney
Last Name: Wall
Year: 1998-2019
Street: xxxxxxxxxx
Town; Bexhill-On-Sea
County: East Sussex
Country: England
Estimated Age: 65+
Address: xxxxxxxxx, Bexhill-On-Sea, East Sussex, TN39 xxx
District ; Bexhill
Other Occupants
Year
Document Type : Yes
Record set : Uk Electoral Registers & Companies House Directors 2002-2019
Category: Census, Land & Surveys
Record collection : Electoral Rolls
Collections from: Great Britain, England
©192.com



Well, it can't be correct, as we've already seen the other Companies House record saying that he retired.
Although it gives a year range below his name, it doesn't give a year for his residence at that address..
The GR record is also taken from 192.com's record, so I think that somehow Harold's name has never been removed - maybe because he seems to have died abroad??
If nobody told the ER authorities, maybe they assume he's still there?

As has already been pointed out, his supposed address on the ER is the same as the address on the Companies House record.
Many of the other people listed on the Companies House record are also at xxxxxxx House, but with different numbers.

I wonder if they've all been residents, and therefore nominal directors.

malyon

malyon Report 15 Jul 2019 19:02

on GR it says 1998-2019 aged 65+ harold sydney wall

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Jul 2019 18:49

Good questions, Erika.

As I said on the other thread, on 192.com there's no date given for Harold.
His address on 192.com is "Based on Companies House".

This would mean he hasn't been at that address for some time, nor has he opted out of the public ER.
Therefore he has died.

May is there per 2002 Electoral Roll.

No age given for Harold on 192.com, at least not without credits.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Jul 2019 18:32

In which year - precisely - is the name on the ER?

And is the man’s age on the record?

malyon

malyon Report 15 Jul 2019 16:53

the address in bexhill looks like a home for elderley

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Jul 2019 13:54

If he's still living in Bexhill, he's 103 years old.

(Not impossible).

Pamela, does the probate you purchased confirm that the Harold who died in 1998 was May's husband, and was born 1916?

There does seem to have been only one Harold S Wall born 1916-1983, and only one married a May.

malyon

malyon Report 15 Jul 2019 13:39

dont under stand if harold died 1998 why is he in electrol list in
bexhill

his father was harold A wall

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Jul 2019 13:31

Don't know what you're referring to, malyon.

The man's name was Harold Sydney Wall, as per all postings, and there is, as you must know, an allowance of 6 weeks for births to be registered

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Jul 2019 13:18

According to the 1939 register (posted on the other thread, but copied below for ease of reference) , Harold's DOB was 28 May 1916.
His birth may not have been registered until July.


Harold S Wall
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Harold S Wall
Gender: Male
Marital status: Single
Birth Date: 28 May 1916
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 64
Residence Place: Lewisham, London, England
Occupation: Driver Mechanic
Schedule Number: 86
Sub Schedule Number: 4
Enumeration District: AOTA
Registration district: 3/27 B.
Household Members:
Name
Emily E Wall
Harold Wall
Violet Wall
Harold S Wall
Doris M Wall
Frederick C Wall
Leslie D Wall
William J Wall



Parents' marriage, just for ref:

Marriages Sep 1911 (>99%)
Davy Emma E Southwark 1d 213
Wall Harold A Southwark 1d 213

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 15 Jul 2019 13:15

Not sure what you mean Malyon- Born 28th May 1916 could well fit a July 1916 registration

EDIT: Malyon deleted post

Pamela

Pamela Report 14 Jul 2019 22:57

Hi . I have been replying to messages as well as on this this site with the address of where he lived . . I have a copy of his probate that I purchased confirming he died on17th June 1998 but not where he died Thanks Pam

malyon

malyon Report 14 Jul 2019 21:31

pamela i sent you a message with the address in bexhill you did not reply to me

Pamela

Pamela Report 14 Jul 2019 19:55

I have established from Probate record in Brighton Sussex that Harold Sidney Wall died on 17th June 1998 but am not finding his death registered . Could he have died overseas ? I know from personal experience when my own brother died in Thailand that it was in overseas section ? Any help with finding this would be much appreciated Thanks Pam

Choccy

Choccy Report 8 Jul 2019 13:19

The address for Harold Sidney Wall on the 2019 Electoral Register is the SAME ADDRESS as he was at when he was a Director in 1998.

It is the same address May Ellen Wall was at until 2002 on the ER.

It would appear that Harold Sidney Wall (up until the last Electoral Register was taken) is still alive and living in Bexhill on Sea.

PM sent to Pam.