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HI All

I am doing some research for a colleague who wants to find out more about his grandfather George T Green. What we know he is was in the Army for a long time but i cant find him on Ancestry Military records. I have on Forces Website but just gives me information on what i know, no DOB or family details. His Army number is 884994 so if anyone can locate a link to these records then please do.

This is his marriage

Name: George T Green
Registration Date: Jan 1942
[Feb 1942]
[Mar 1942]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Peterborough
Inferred County: Huntingdonshire
Spouse: Florence Ward
Volume Number: 3b
Page Number: 804

He is said to have a brother called Raymond Green.

There is supposedly a link to Winchester


We dont have much more than this to go on. But any help would be appreciated.

Such recent service records are NOT online. they have to be purchased at a cost of £30.00, plus a possible requirement for a copy death cert

Details here:
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/military_chat/thread/1380443

Get a copy of the marriage certificate for his declared age and his father’s name and occupation - if he knew him.

When did he die?

Try freebmd for a birth - then look for one for Raymond with same MMN

Looks like George and his wife had a son named Raymond..............

As a point of reference - his wife in 1939

182 Padholme Road, Peterborough, Peterborough M.B., Northamptonshire, England

James J Ward 25 Nov 1887 Male Fitters Labourer Railway Married 196 1
Olive Ward 12 Aug 1891 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 196 2
Florence Green (Ward) 26 Jun 1920 Female Corset Factory Machinist Single 196 3

Thanks, I will take a look at your thread.

The son Raymond is my colleagues father.

I did find that entry in the 1939 record.

Found on freebmd...........................using Winchester as a search tool

Births Sep 1920 (>99%)
Green George T Knox Winchester 2c 272
Births Jun 1925 (>99%)
Green John Knox Winchester 2c 255
Births Jun 1931 (>99%)
Green Peter Knox Winchester 2c 221

No Raymond

The family in 1939

George A Green 06 Apr 1894 Male Builders Labourer Married 56 1
Margaret Green 21 Dec 1894 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 56 2
The record for this person is officially closed.
John Green 06 Jun 1925 Male Errand Boy Bakers Single 56 4
Peter Green 07 Apr 1931 Male At School Single 56 5

The parents' marriage

Marriages Jun 1918 (>99%)
Green George A Knox Alnwick 10b 832
Knox Margaret Green Alnwick 10b 832

BUT.....................none of the above can be proved to be relevant - or otherwise - until you get the 1942 marriage cert

If this is his death, it then looks like ErikaH has found the correct birth

Record Transcription:
England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

First name(s) GEORGE THOMAS
Last name GREEN
Gender Male
Birth day 4
Birth month 6
Birth year 1920
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1987
District Winchester
Register number 1087
County Hampshire
Volume 20
Page 1851
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England
(c) brightsolid online publishing ltd

Sorry. I am going to get him to buy the marriage cert as we are at a dead end already.

He failed to tell me his grandfather died abroad after he disappeared and believes he went to Australia. Which was not helpful.

Thanks for the help so far. :-)

He was on a casualty list in 1944:-

First name(s) G T
Last name Green
Year 1944
Capture year 1944
Service number 884994
Rank -
Rank as transcribed U/A/L/Bdr
Regiment Royal Artillery
Regiment as transcribed Royal Artillery
Theatre of war North West Europe
Archive reference WO 417/77
PIece description Casualty Lists - Other Ranks 1480 - 1496
Archive
The National Archives
Record set British Army Casualty Lists 1939-1945

As Erika has already said you would have to order his service records at a cost of £30 if you wanted to see his full record.

He joined up in 1938:-

First name(s) George Thomas
Last name Green
Age -
Birth year -
Birth place -
Attestation year 1938
Service number 884994
Former service number -
Record set Royal Artillery Attestations 1883-1942
Category Military, armed forces & conflict

Kath. x

Hi all..

I got the marriage cert and it's this family.

ErikaH Report Mark this as answered 25 Aug 2020 19:28
Found on freebmd...........................using Winchester as a search tool

Births Sep 1920 (>99%)
Green George T Knox Winchester 2c 272
Births Jun 1925 (>99%)
Green John Knox Winchester 2c 255
Births Jun 1931 (>99%)
Green Peter Knox Winchester 2c 221

No Raymond ....... middle name of Wiiam Green!
The family in 1939

George A Green 06 Apr 1894 Male Builders Labourer Married 56 1
Margaret Green 21 Dec 1894 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 56 2
The record for this person is officially closed.
John Green 06 Jun 1925 Male Errand Boy Bakers Single 56 4
Peter Green 07 Apr 1931 Male At School Single 56 5

The parents' marriage

Marriages Jun 1918 (>99%)
Green George A Knox Alnwick 10b 832
Knox Margaret Green Alnwick 10b 832

The George A Green senior middle name was Alfonso which is written on the marriage cert. which isnt common but I am struggling to find anything else other than the above

Name: George A Green
Death Age: 67
Birth Date: abt 1894
Registration Date:
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Winchester
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 827


Burial

Name: George Alphonso Green
Age: 68
Record Type: Burial
Birth Date: abt 1893
Death Date: abt 1961
Burial Date: 29 Dec 1961
Burial Place: Winchester, Hampshire, England
Cemetery Section: D RC
Grave Number: H/66
Interment Number: 8343
Cemetery Notes: RC

The burial. Do you know the name of the cemetery?

His great grandson is going to visit winchester to take his dad to visit graves of his family.

Google is your best bet

BUT.....almost certainly the Municipal cemetery in view of the various notations

Found it. Magadelin Cemetery..thanks :-)

As you have the marriage cert, you should know the name of the man's father - unless he was illegitimate, of course ;-) ;-)

Here you are - fits with RC burial

First name(s) George Alphonsus
Last name Green
Sex Male
Birth year 1894
Birth date 06 Apr 1894
Baptism year 1894
Baptism date 25 Apr 1894
Denomination Roman Catholic
Baptism place Glasgow
Parish Immaculate Conception
Diocese Glasgow
County Lanarkshire
Country Scotland
Father's first name(s) George Charles
Father's last name Green
Mother's first name(s) Rosanne
Mother's last name Redmond

On ER's throughout the 1920's

First name(s) George Alphonso
Last name Green
Year 1920
Season Autumn
Polling district or place Winchester
Constituency P C of Hampshire, Winchester Division
Constituency in full Parliamentary County of Hampshire, Winchester Division
County Hampshire
Country England

Ahhh

I saw a census record with the same family but it was missing the alphonso bit so didnt rule it in.

Thanks :-) :-)