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Sidami
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14 Feb 2025 20:59 |
Irene M Boorman bn 1928 Hackney. Also Christopher R Chamberlain bn 1923 Poplar they married 1948 Romford Thankyou..
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ArgyllGran
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14 Feb 2025 23:08 |
Christopher R is presumably one of the closed records, with his mother Dorothy and stepfather Harry Hoddy - see record below.
Births Mar 1923 (>99%) Chamberlain Christopher R [mmn Buckingham] Poplar 1c 657
His parents' marriage:
Marriages Mar 1921 (>99%) Buckingham Dorothy H Chamberlain Poplar 1c 746 Chamberlain Christopher C Buckingham Poplar 1c 746
Dorothy Chamberlain in the 1921 England Census Name Dorothy Chamberlain [Dorothy Buckingham] Gender Female Marital Status Married Age 22 Years 9 Months Relation to Head Wife Estimated Birth Year 1898 Birth Place Bow, Middlesex, England Residence Date 1921 Residence Street Address 36 St Stephens Rd Residence Place Poplar Borough, London, Middlesex, England Occupation Bar Assistant Occupation Code 915/6 Employer L W Farns Ant (Licensed Victualler) Employer Code 775 Place of Work 260 Roman Rd Bow E3 Inhabited Y Ward Central Parliamentary Division Poplar Pb, Bow & Bromley Div. Registration District Poplar Registration District Number 22 Sub registration district Bow Sub Registration District Number 1 Respondent Mr Chamberlain Enumeration District Name Poplar Mb Enumeration District 15 Schedule 377 Schedule Type Code E Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Christopher Cyril Chamberlain 27 Years 1 Month Head Dorothy Chamberlain 22 Years 9 Months Wife Laura Buckingham 49 Years 1 Month Mother-in-law
His father's death:
Christopher C Chamberlain in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name Christopher C Chamberlain Death Age 38 Birth Date abt 1895 Registration Date Jan 1933 [Feb 1933] [Mar 1933] Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar Registration District Poplar Inferred County London Volume 1c Page 521
His mother's remarriage:
Dorothy H Chamberlain in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 Name Dorothy H Chamberlain Registration Date Apr 1934 [May 1934] [Jun 1934] Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun Registration District Romford Inferred County Essex Spouse Harry H Hoddy Volume Number 4a Page number 1280
The family in 1939:
Dorothy H Hoddy in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name Dorothy H Hoddy Gender Female Marital Status Married Birth Date 15 Sep 1898 Residence Date 1939 Address 225 Residence Place Hornchurch, Essex, England Occupation Unpaid Domestic Duties Line Number 16 Schedule Number 368 Sub Schedule Number 2 Enumeration District Dcbd Borough Hornchurch Registration District 191.4 Household Members (Name) Gender Birth Year Harry H Hoddy Male 1911 Dorothy H Hoddy Female 1898 This record is officially closed. This record is officially closed. This record is officially closed. Cyril F Chamberlain Male 1924
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ArgyllGran
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14 Feb 2025 23:22 |
Births Dec 1928 (>99%) Boorman Irene M [mmn Slade ] Hackney 1b 521
Irene's parents will be one of these couples:
Marriages Mar 1920 (>99%) Boorman John T Slade Hackney 1b 802 Slade Daisy M Boorman Hackney 1b 802
Marriages Mar 1923 (>99%) BOORMAN Edward Slade Hackney 1b 661 Slade Ethel O Boorman Hackney 1b 661
Irene is presumably a closed record with her parents - whoever they are.
One of the couples in 1939:
Edward Boorman in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name Edward Boorman Gender Male Marital Status Married Birth Date 29 Aug Residence Date 1939 Address 54 Purbeck Rd Residence Place Hornchurch, Essex, England Occupation Inspector Munitions Royal Ars?? Line Number 32 Schedule Number 448 Sub Schedule Number 1 Enumeration District Dcay Borough Hornchurch Registration District 191-4 Household Members (Name) Gender Birth Year Edward Boorman Male Ethel [Olive] Boorman Female This record is officially closed. Caelie [Olive] [Boorman} Female 1926 This record is officially closed. <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Possibly Irene ?? Derek [Boorman]Male 1930 Frank [Boorman ] Male 1931 This record is officially closed.
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ArgyllGran
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14 Feb 2025 23:35 |
The other couple in 1921. For 1939, see next post :
John T Boorman in the 1921 England Census Name John T Boorman Gender Male Marital Status Married Age 22 Years 9 Months Relation to Head Head Estimated Birth Year 1898 Birth Place Hackney, London, England Residence Date 1921 Residence Street Address 105 Overbury St, Hackney Residence Place Hackney, London, Middlesex, England Occupation Builder Labourer Occupation Code 564/8 Employer J Clark Builder Plaistow London Out of Work Employer Code 468 Place of Work No Fixed Place Number of Children Under 16 1 Inhabited Y Ward Clapton Park Parliamentary Division Hackney Pb, North Div. Registration District Hackney Registration District Number 11 Sub registration district Central Hackney Sub Registration District Number 3 Respondent J T Boorman Enumeration District Name Hackney Mb Enumeration District 24 Schedule 245 Schedule Type Code E Household Members (Name) Age Relationship John T Boorman 22 Years 9 Months Head Daisy M Boorman 21 Years 1 Month Wife John Boorman 1 Year 1 Month Son
SLADE, DAISY MAFEKING mmn KIMPTON GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 1067
Deaths Jun 1980 (>99%) BOORMAN DAISY MAFEKING 19MY1900 BARKING/DHAM 11 114
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ArgyllGran
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14 Feb 2025 23:48 |
Here are Daisy and John in 1939. Irene could be one of the closed records between Daisy D and Lenard;
Daisy M in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name Daisy M Gender Female Marital Status Married Birth Date 19 May 1900 Residence Date 1939 Address 112 Residence Place Hornchurch, Essex, England Occupation Unpaid Domestic Duties Line Number 39 Schedule Number 260 Sub Schedule Number 2 Enumeration District Dcay Borough Hornchurch Registration District 191.4 Household Members (Name) Gender Birth Year John S Boarman Male 1896 [ Boorman on image - correction submitted to Ancestry ] Daisy M Female 1900 John Thos Male 1920 Daisy D Female 1922 This record is officially closed. This record is officially closed. Lenard Male 1930
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SylviaInCanada
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14 Feb 2025 23:50 |
This has to be Irene's birth registration from GRO, the free site
Interesting that there is no mother's maiden name
BOORMAN, IRENE MAY GRO Reference: 1928 D Quarter in HACKNEY Volume 01B Page 521
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ArgyllGran
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14 Feb 2025 23:55 |
The mmn shows up on GRO if you put it in as one of the search terms;
BOORMAN, IRENE MAY mmn SLADE GRO Reference: 1928 D Quarter in HACKNEY Volume 01B Page 521
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ArgyllGran
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14 Feb 2025 23:57 |
Sidami -
you'll need to get a copy of Irene's birth cert to find out which set of parents is hers.
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SylviaInCanada
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15 Feb 2025 03:00 |
ArgyllGran ............ I've never come across that before. Is it something new?
Previously, the mmn has shown up with just the baby's name.
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ArgyllGran
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15 Feb 2025 09:25 |
It depends on the date of the birth registration, Sylvia. It's not a new thing.
The mmn only appears automatically on GRO if the registration was 100 or more years ago - though you can find the mmn on FreeBMD instead.
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ErikaH
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15 Feb 2025 11:30 |
CHAMBERLAIN, IRENE MAY 1928 GRO Reference: DOR Q3/2012 in LINCOLNSHIRE (609-1C) Entry Number 507040473
CHAMBERLAIN, CHRISTOPHER RALPH 1922 GRO Reference: DOR Q1/2017 in LINCOLNSHIRE (609-1N) Entry Number 515189471
CHAMBERLAIN, CHRISTOPHER RALPH BUCKINGHAM GRO Reference: 1923 M Quarter in POPLAR Volume 01C Page 657
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ErikaH
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15 Feb 2025 11:36 |
1939 Register 225 Rainham Road, Dagenham, Hornchurch U.D., Essex, England Henry H Hoddy 19 Apr 1911 Male Public Works Contractor's Labourer Married 368 1 Dorothy H Hoddy 15 Sep 1898 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 368 2 The record for this person is officially closed. The record for this person is officially closed. Humphrey R Chamberlain 30 Dec 1922 Male Greengrocers Roundsman Single 368 5 Cyril F Chamberlain 02 Jul 1924 Male Garage Petrol Pup Assistant Single 368 6
Dreadful mistranscription by FMP......correction submitted
The closed records will be the children of the Hoddy marriage
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ErikaH
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15 Feb 2025 11:43 |
Deaths 1991 (52%) HODDY DOROTHY HANNAH 15SE1898 HAVERING 13 95
Forenames reversed below
Deaths 1986 (>99%) HODDY HARRY HENRY 19AP1911 FENLAND 9 128
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ErikaH
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15 Feb 2025 11:47 |
CHAMBERLAIN, CYRIL FRANCIS BUCKINGHAM GRO Reference: 1924 S Quarter in POPLAR Volume 01C Page 585
CHAMBERLAIN, CYRIL FRANCIS 1924 GRO Reference: DOR Q3/2006 in HAVERING (2341B) Reg HB110 Entry Number 286
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ErikaH
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15 Feb 2025 12:02 |
Births Jun 1936 (>99%) HODDY Henry G E Buckingham Romford 4a 924
HODDY, HENRY GEORGE E 1936 GRO Reference: DOR Q3/2021 in HAVERING (234-1A) Entry Number 522634321
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ArgyllGran
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15 Feb 2025 12:18 |
Sidami -
Just to be clear - "Humphrey" Chamberlain in FMP's transcription of the 1939 Register is actually Christopher, mistranscribed.
(At least, I'm assuming so - is that the case, ErikaH?)
As is often the case, Ancestry hasn't caught up with the opening of that closed record, so I can't look at it myself.
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ErikaH
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15 Feb 2025 12:38 |
That is correct, AG.
Cyril's name is accurate - as per his birth and death records
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ErikaH
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15 Feb 2025 12:50 |
Irene Boorman is in a member's GR tree........perhaps the 'owner' knows which couple were her parents.
Try making contact and asking the question
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ArgyllGran
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15 Feb 2025 13:39 |
None of the potential parents is on that member's GR tree, unfortunately.
Irene is not on any Ancestry tree.
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Sidami
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15 Feb 2025 15:12 |
Wow Thankyou for your help and the late replies.
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