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19 Feb 2025 16:51 |
Hi, I am seeking information or modern day descendants of my great grand parents, Thomas James Hanrahan 1959-1912 and his wife Alice who apparently had 6 children, Aileen M Hanrahan born1885, Alice E Hanrahan born1886, Patrick Charles Hanrahan 1888 - 1969, William G Hanrahan born 1898, Mabel A Hanrahan born 1890, Nora P Hanrahan born 1901.
My Grandfather was Patrick Charles Hanrahan born 1888 in Plymouth Devon, he lived in Portsmouth Hampshire and worked as a ship fitter in H.M Naval Base in Portsmouth where other family members also lived in the period from 1885 - 1939 before moving with his wife Margaret Mary Lynch 1885 - 1967 and daughter Delia Mary Hanrahan 1922-1993 to Scotland to work at H.M. naval base Rosyth
Today there are many Hanrahan's residing in the Portsmouth/Southsea area, could any of these be long lost relatives or descendants of my great grandparents ?
There are historic references to Velder Avenue, Portsmouth, Southsea, and also Plymouth / Devon.
Any info / assistance appreciated.
Kindest regards
Brian Hanrahan
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ErikaH
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19 Feb 2025 16:56 |
Have you done any research?
Use ‘search all member trees’ as a starting point. If anyone on here is connected and has a tree on GR, you will be able to send a message.
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19 Feb 2025 17:02 |
Posting for our info/ reference:
Death: HANRAHAN DELIA MARY 70 mmn LYNCH F 1993 432 / 680 Dunfermline
Delia apparently didn't marry.
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19 Feb 2025 17:09 |
For INFO
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 11, Jubilee Road, Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Thomas J Hanrahan Head Married Male 42 1859 Foreman of stores royal naval ordnance dept Barnes, Surrey, England Alice I Hanrahan Wife Married Female 40 1861 - Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Aileen M Hanrahan Daughter Single Female 16 1885 Shop asstnt drug stores Newport, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England Alice E Hanrahan Daughter Single Female 14 1887 Dressmaker apprentice Devon, England Patrick C Hanrahan Son - Male 13 1888 - Devon, England Mabel A Hanrahan Daughter - Female 11 1890 - Essex, England William G Hanrahan Son - Male 3 1898 - Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Nora P Hanrahan Daughter - Female 0 1901 - Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Follow-through yourself on the 'children' using census and BMD records
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19 Feb 2025 17:09 |
Aileen Mary Hanrahan in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915 Name Aileen Mary Hanrahan Registration Year 1909 [1909] Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec Registration District Portsmouth Inferred County Hampshire Volume 2b Page 1102 Records on Page (Name) Aileen Mary Hanrahan Alan Henry Howard
Aileen Mary Howard in the 1911 England Census Name Aileen Mary Howard Age in 1911 26 Estimated Birth Year abt 1885 Relation to Head Wife Gender Female Birth Place Newport, Isle of Wight Civil parish Ware County/Island Hertfordshire Country England Street Address 33 Trinity Road, Ware Occupation None Registration District Number 133 Sub-registration district Ware ED, institution, or vessel 02 Piece 7478 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Alan Henry Howard 25 Head Aileen Mary Howard 26 Wife
Two children:
HOWARD, ALAN HENRY mmn HANRAHAN GRO Reference: 1912 D Quarter in WARE Volume 03A Page 1387
HOWARD, AILEEN FLORENCE mmn HAURAHAN GRO Reference: 1914 D Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 247
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19 Feb 2025 17:11 |
1921 Census Of England & Wales 11, Jubilee Road, Southsea, Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Alice Hanrahan Head Female 1861 60 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Home Duties - William George Hanrahan Son Male 1897 24 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Shipwright Royal Navy Norah N Hanrahan Daughter Female 1900 20 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Shop Assistant (Hardware) Timothy White Co Ltd Fielding Old Boarder Male 1867 54 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Cinema Attendant Provincial Cinematograph Co Ltd
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19 Feb 2025 17:31 |
I don't see Aileen and Alan, nor their children after 1914.
There are lots of records for an Aileen Florence Howard in Australia - but that woman was married to a Mervyn Howard.
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Oh yes, here they are in 1919 (and still there in 1920) , at 16 Montpelier Road, Finchley:
Alan Henry Howard [ with Aileen Mary ] in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 Name Alan Henry Howard Electoral Date 1919 Street Address 16 Flaxman Villas [Montpelier Road on image ] Ward or Division/Constituency Finchley County or Borough Barnet, England
Can't see them after that.
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19 Feb 2025 17:32 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census St Botolph, Colchester, Essex, England
First name(s) Thomas Parish St Botolph Last name Hanrahan City Colchester Relationship Head County Essex Marital status Married Country England Sex Male Registration district Colchester Age 32 Sub district Colchester First Ward Birth year 1859 Enumeration district 19 Birth town Barnes Parliamentary borough or division Colchester Birth town as transcribed BARNES Municipal borough or ward South Birth county Surrey Ecclesiastical parish or district St Botolphs Birth county as transcribed SURREY Archive reference RG12 Birth place England Piece number 1408 Occupation Quarter master sergeant Folio 50 Institution name Camp Page 23 Institution location St Botolphs Parish Colchester Schedule 21 Full address St Botolph, Colchester, Essex, England Record set 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census House number - Category Census, land & surveys Street - Subcategory Census Town Colchester Collections from Great Britain, England © Findmypast
With him are Alice age 30 b Portsmouth, Hants Aileen 6 born Newport, Hants Alice 4 b Devonport, Devon (Plymouth) Patrick 3 born ditto Mabel 1 born Colchester
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19 Feb 2025 17:49 |
You say there are lots of Hanrahan now living in Portsmouth. You need to work their trees backwards to see if they end up with the same ancestors.
Or contact them and ask them
If you put Hanrahan & Hampshire into Search/ search all members trees you will find some from Gosport as well as just Hampshire. You could then send the tree owners a pm.
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19 Feb 2025 18:03 |
As well as the usual GRO birth registrations the children are recorded in British Armed Forces and Overseas Births and Baptisms
Aileen M 1885 at Newport, Isle of Wight (GRO - Aileen Mary b Isle of Wight) Alice E 1886 at Devonport (GRO - Alice Elizabeth Stoke Damerel, Devon) Patrick C 1888 Plymouth (GRO - Patrick Charles Plymouth) Mabel A 1890 Rochester, Essex (GRO - Mabel Annie Cochester mmn Bichell) <<<<
All above show Father to be in the 18th Regiment of Foot which became the Royal Irish Regiment in 1881
William George 1897 Portsea Island - died Q4 Portsmouth DOB 5 June 1897 Kathleen Claire - 1899 Portsea Island - Died Q2 Portsea 1900 age 1 Norah Pretoria 1900 Portsmouth
all except Mabel show mmn as Bickell
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19 Feb 2025 18:12 |
For our reference:
Thomas and Alice's marriage:
Thomas Hawrwhass in the India, Select Marriages, 1792-1948 Name Thomas Hawrwhass Gender Male Marital Status Single Race White Age 25 Birth Date 1859 Marriage Date 12 Jan 1884 Marriage Place Meerut, Bengal, India Father Patrick Hawrwhass Spouse Alice Bickell FHL Film Number 510872
HANRAHAN, AILEEN MARY mmn BICKELL GRO Reference: 1885 M Quarter in ISLE OF WIGHT Volume 02B Page 621
HANRAHAN, MABEL ANNIE mmn BICHELL GRO Reference: 1890 M Quarter in COLCHESTER Volume 04A Page 575
HANRAHAN, ALICE ELIZABETH mmn BICKELL GRO Reference: 1886 D Quarter in STOKE DAMEREL Volume 05B Page 309
HANRAHAN, WILLIAM GEORGE mmn BICKELL GRO Reference: 1897 S Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND Volume 02B Page 490
HANRAHAN, NORAH PRETORIA mmn BICKELL GRO Reference: 1900 D Quarter in PORTSMOUTH Volume 02B Page 418
HANRAHAN, PATRICK CHARLES mmn BICKELL GRO Reference: 1888 J Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 259
Another child who died:
HANRAHAN, KATHLEEN CLAIRE mmn BICKELL GRO Reference: 1899 M Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND Volume 02B Page 507
Deaths Jun 1900 (>99%) Hanrahan Kathleen Claire 1 Portsea 2b 285
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19 Feb 2025 18:14 |
Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page Marriages Dec 1921 (>99%) Blaxhamm Henry A G Hanrahan Portsmouth 2b 1302 Hanrahan Norah P Blaxhall Portsmouth 2b 1302
Easily found on this free website - https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Then you can use the same site to check for births to the couple (England and Wales only)
Despite this record showing surname Blaxhamm, it comes up as Blaxhall on the initial search
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19 Feb 2025 18:25 |
Mabel A Hanrahan in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 Name Mabel A Hanrahan Registration Date Apr 1920 [May 1920] [Jun 1920] Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun Registration District Portsmouth Inferred County Hampshire Spouse Henry J Adams Volume Number 2b Page number 1383
Mabel A Adams in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name Mabel A Adams Gender Female Marital Status Married Birth Date 21 Feb 1890 Residence Date 1939 Address Wes Honse Hardon Rd Liphook ["Wee Hoose", on image ] Residence Place Petersfield, Hampshire, England Occupation Unpaid Domestic Duties Line Number 43 Schedule Number 105 Sub Schedule Number 2 Enumeration District Eeqe Borough Petersfield Registration District 103 1 Inferred Spouse Henry J Adams Household Members (Name) Gender Birth Year Henry J Adams Male 1893 - Church sexton Mabel A Adams Female 1890 Albert T Durkin Male 1900
They had no children, as far as I can see.
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ErikaH
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19 Feb 2025 18:31 |
As there was only one son other than the one who went to Scotland, his descendants - if any - will be the only ones with the surname Hanrahan. Research him, Brian.
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He died in 1971
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19 Feb 2025 18:49 |
British Army Service Records Barnes, London, Surrey, England
First name(s) Thomas James Attestation service number 1871 Last name Hanrahan Attestation corps 69th Brigade Birth year 1859 Discharge corps Royal Irish Regiment Birth parish Barnes Document type Attestation Birth town London Archive reference WO 97 Birth county Surrey Series Wo 97 - Chelsea Pensioners British Army Service Records 1760-1913 Birth country England Box 2974 Service number 1871 Box record number 46 Colour Sergeant Archive The National Archives Regiment Royal Irish Regiment Country England Year 1873 Record set British Army Service Records Attestation date 26 Jun 1873 Category Military, armed forces & conflict Attestation age years 14 Subcategory Regimental & Service Records Attestation age months 6
From Original - Attested 26 June 1873 aged 14 as a Private and reached age of 15 on 26 December 1873 and age 17 on 26 December 1875 Promoted Lance Corporal 5.5.1876 Corporal 10.6.1877 Sergeant 19.5.1877 Tried and reduced to private 29.7.1879 with forfeit of good conduct badge Back up the ranks Reengaged 1883 to complete 21 years Promoted Quartermaster Sergeant 17 Feb 1889 Reduced rank to Colour Sergeant June 1893 for Drunkenness and forfeit Good conduct badge
Served Malta, England, India, Afghanistan, India, Egypt and then Home ie England 9.9.1885 to 12.8.1893
Discharge from Army 12 August 1893
NOK - wife Alice with Regiment. Father Patrick William and Mother Mary - Stoke ------ Brothers - Patrick William (older)- St Johns Brentford William - Simla, India Joseph (younger) Richard(Younger)
Medals awarded for Afghanistan campaign 1878-1890 Egyptian medal and clasp Nile Expedition 1884-5 Bronze medal Royal humane Society for saving life *** Khedives Bronze star 1884
*** Rescued Lt Colonel H Shaw VC The Royal Irish from drowning in the Nile 24.1.1885
Married Alice Isabella Bickett Mercut, Bengal 12 January 1884
Enlisted in Malta 25th June 1873, born Barnes, Surrey
Height 60" Chest 28", Weight 95lbs
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19 Feb 2025 19:04 |
BIRTH - Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: HANRAHAN, THOMAS JAMES BRIDGWAY GRO Reference: 1859 M Quarter in RICHMOND SURREY Volume 02A Page 230
PARENTS MARRIAGE Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1853 (>99%) Bridgeway Mary Strand 1b 627 HANRAHAN Patrick Strand 1b 627
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20 Feb 2025 11:59 |
Marriages Jun 1924 (>99%) Hanrahan William G Walsh Portsmouth 2b 1086 Walsh Alma J Hanrahan Portsmouth 2b 1086
ONE child registered as Hanrahan/Walsh, but was NOT William's son, as he was also registered as SIMPSON
Marriages Sep 1938 (>99%) Hanrahan Alma J Simpson Lancaster 8e 2036 Simpson Harry Hanrahan Lancaster 8e 2036 Simpson Harry Walsh Lancaster 8e 2036 Walsh Alma J Simpson Lancaster 8e 2036
Marriages Sep 1938 (>99%) Hanrahan William G Ledger Portsmouth 2b 1656 Ledger Elsie M Hanrahan Portsmouth 2b 1656
1939 Register 37 Highgrove Road, Portsmouth, Portsmouth C.B., Hampshire, England
Harry Simpson 09 Aug 1909 Male Master Blacksmith Married 70 1 Alma (J) Simpson 05 Jul 1901 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 70 2 The record for this person is officially closed.
Start trying to contact the people you say are in the relevant area.................we can't do it for you
Not sure why you think they could be connected to your bit of the family - Thomas was born in SURREY
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20 Feb 2025 16:14 |
HANRAHAN, THOMAS JAMES BRIDGWAY GRO Reference: 1859 M Quarter in RICHMOND SURREY Volume 02A Page 230
Name Thomas James Hanrahan Death Date 29 Jul 1912 Death Place Hampshire, England Probate Date 11 Sept 1912 Probate Registry Winchester Probate to widow
No census record for him before 1891
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20 Feb 2025 16:41 |
First name(s) Thomas James Father's first name(s) Patrick Last name Hanrahan Mother's first name(s) Mary Birth year 1858 Mother's last name Bridgway Birth date 20 Dec 1858 Archive Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Southwark Baptism year 1859 Register type Baptisms Baptism date 16 Jan 1859 Register year range 1850-1891 Parish Mortlake, St Mary Magdalen Record set England Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms Deanery Mortlake Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Diocese Southwark Subcategory Parish Baptisms County Surrey
A sister HANRAHAN, ELIZA AGNES BRIDGWAY GRO Reference: 1856 D Quarter in ST GILES IN THE FIELDS & ST GEORGE BLOOMSBURY Volume 01B Page 362
Marriages Sep 1853 (>99%) Bridgeway Mary Strand 1b 627 HANRAHAN Patrick Strand 1b 627
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Dudley Street, Saint Giles in the Fields, St Giles, London & Middlesex, England Frederick Lester Head Married Male 30 1821 Tradesman Boston, Lincolnshire, England Eliza Lester Wife Married Female 36 1815 - Ireland Frederick Lester Son - Male 6 1845 Scholar St Giles, Middlesex, England Fanny Lester Daughter - Female 4 1847 - St Giles, Middlesex, England Mary Bridgway Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1834 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Eliza Bridgway Daughter - Female 10 1841 Scholar Middlesex, England
Name Mary Bridgeway Gender Female Spouse Patrick William Hanrahan...........Army Sergeant at Belfast Barracks Child Richard Agustin Hanrahan, born 3rd April 1870 FHL Film Number 101205
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20 Feb 2025 16:46 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census St Georges Villas, Richmond, Richmond upon Thames, Surrey, England
Patrick W Hanrahan Head Married Male 48 1833 Tailor Ireland Mary Ann Hanrahan Wife Married Female 48 1833 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Maria Hanrahan Daughter Single Female 20 1861 Dressmaker Soho, Middlesex, England William Hanrahan Son Single Male 17 1864 Publishers clerk St James, Middlesex, England Joseph Hanrahan Son Single Male 13 1868 Scholar Chester, Cheshire, England Richard Hanrahan Son Single Male 12 1869 Scholar Ireland Elizabeth Henderson Grand daughter Single Female 5 1876 Scholar St Giles, Middlesex, England
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census 29, Ayrsome Road, Stoke Newington, Hackney, London & Middlesex, England
Mary Hanrahan Head Widow Female 57 1834 - Bristol, England Joseph Hanrahan Son Single Male 24 1867 Music hall vocal - Richard Hanrahan Son Single Male 21 1870 Music hall vocal Belfast, Antrim, Ireland Elizabeth Henderson Granddaughter Single Female 14 1877 Dressmaker London, Middlesex, England
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 143, Balls Pond Road, Hackney, London & Middlesex, England Mary Hanrahan Head Widow Female 67 1834 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Joseph Hanrahan Son Single Male 32 1869 Clerk friendly society Chester, Cheshire, England Elizabeth Henderson Niece Single Female 23 1878 Dressmaker Hoxton, Middlesex, England Agnes Drew Visitor Single Female 1 1900 - Dalston, Middlesex, England
Deaths Dec 1897 (>99%) Hanrahan Richard Augustus 27 Marylebone 1a 383
HANRAHAN, JOSEPH EDWARD BRIDGWAY GRO Reference: 1867 D Quarter in GREAT BOUGHTON Volume 08A Page 317
Marriages Mar 1889 (>99%) Hanrahan Joseph Edward Whitechapel 1c 498 WELLS Ada Annie Whitechapel 1c 498
HANRAHAN, CONSTANCE CLARA WELLS GRO Reference: 1891 M Quarter in WHITECHAPEL Volume 01C Page 360 HANRAHAN, LILIAN ADA WELLS GRO Reference: 1890 M Quarter in WHITECHAPEL Volume 01C Page 350 Deaths Sep 1890 (>99%) Hanrahan Lilian 0 London C. 1c 6
DIVORCE Name Joseph Edward Hanrahan............respondent Gender Male Type Wife's Petition Petition Date 1894 Spouse Ada Anna Hanrahan.....................Petitioner Divorce Court File Number 16221 Item Number 16221 Adultery and Cruelty by husband
Ada re-married
Name AdaAnnie Hanraham Gender Female Marriage Age 25 Record Type Marriage Birth Date abt 1870 Marriage Date 26 Jan 1895 Marriage Place Holy Trinity, Minories, Tower Hamlets, England Father Matthew Wells Spouse Otto Mark Macbrider Father Edmund Macbrider Register Type Parish Register
Name Ada Annie Markbrieter Age 30 Estimated Birth Year abt 1869 Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep Death Registration Place Marylebone, London, United Kingdom Death Date Sep 1899 Inferred Death Place London, United Kingdom Volume 1a Page 405
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