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Sidami

Sidami Report 27 Mar 2025 15:39

I have a marriage for David Brown bn 1885 Scarborough married in 1904 Miggleswick Durham to Emily Frances Watts born 1886 I am trying to find his parents

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 Mar 2025 15:50

?????
BROWN, HAROLD DAVID HORSLEY
GRO Reference: 1885 D Quarter in SCARBOROUGH Volume 09D Page 355

1921
David Brown
Gender Male
Marital Status Married
Age 37 Years 1 Month
Relation to Head Head
Estimated Birth Year 1884
Birth Place Yorkshire, England
Residence Date 1921
Residence Street Address 1 Myrtle Gr, Loraine St, Hill
Residence Place Sculcoates, Yorkshire (East Riding), England
Occupation Crane Driver
Occupation Code 950/6
Employer Earles Cement Work
Employer Code 053
Place of Work Stoneferry Hull
Number of Children Under 16 4
Inhabited Y
Parliamentary Division Kingston Upon Hull Pb, East Div.
Registration District Sculcoates
Registration District Number 521
Sub registration district Southcoates
Sub Registration District Number 1
Respondent David Brown
Enumeration District Name Kingston Upon Hull Cb
Enumeration District 3
Schedule 43
Schedule Type Code E
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
David Brown 37 Years 1 Month Head
Emily Brown

34

Wife
David Brown

14 Years 5 Months

Son
George Brown

11 Years 5 Months

Son
Edward Brown

3 Years 7 Months

Son
Violet Brown

12 Years 11 Months

Daughter
Cyril Brown

11 Years 10 Months

Nephew
Olive Brown

6

Niece
John Brown

1 Year 8 Months

Nephew


or

BROWN, DAVID NICHOLSON
GRO Reference: 1888 M Quarter in SCARBOROUGH Volume 09D Page 364

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Mar 2025 16:24

IF he knew his father, the details will be on the marriage certificate.

greyghost

greyghost Report 27 Mar 2025 16:24

1911 Census For England & Wales
1 Myrtle Grove Stoneferry, Sculcoates, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
David Brown Head Married Male 27 1884 Crane driver Scarborough Yorks
Emily Brown Wife Married Female 24 1887 - Wales Bari
David Brown Son - Male 4 1907 - Birkenhead Cheshire
Violet Brown Daughter - Female 2 1909 - Hull Yorks
George Brown Son - Male 1 1910 - Imingham Lincolnshire

BROWN, VIOLET WATTS
GRO Reference: 1908 S Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 318 Occasional Copy: A

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Mar 2025 16:27

Both 1911 and 1921 censuses show him to be older than you say

Have you looked for him in censuses pre-dating his marriage?

greyghost

greyghost Report 27 Mar 2025 16:30

A possibility 1901 - Only result for someone born Scarborough.

Possibly not cut out for tailoring if he's a can driver by 1911

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
21, St Marys Walk, Scarborough, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (North Riding), England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Allen Head Married Male 44 1857 Fisherman Scarborough, Yorkshire, England
Elizabeth A Allen Wife Married Female 38 1863 - Scarborough, Yorkshire, England
Thompson Allen Son Single Male 19 1882 Journey man bricklayer Scarborough, Yorkshire, England
Ezra Allen Son Single Male 12 1889 Errand boy Scarborough, Yorkshire, England
Mary H Allen Daughter Single Female 5 1896 - Scarborough, Yorkshire, England
Elizabeth A Allen Daughter Single Female 3 1898 - Scarborough, Yorkshire, England
Lillian Allen Daughter Single Female 0 1901 - Scarborough, Yorkshire, England
Maud E Brown Step daughter Single Female 17 1884 - Scarborough, Yorkshire, England
Harry D Brown Step son Single Male 15 1886 Tailor's apprentice Scarborough, Yorkshire, England
Florance Brown Step daughter Single Female 12 1889 - Scarborough, Yorkshire, England
Montagu G Brown Step son Single Male 9 1892 - Scarborough, Yorkshire, England
Joseph Douglass Brother-in-law Single Male 21 1880 Bakers assistant Scarborough, Yorkshire, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Mar 2025 16:46

There is no birth of a David Brown in Scarborough in 1885 +/- 1yr, so where did you get your info? Have you looked at freebmd????

greyghost

greyghost Report 27 Mar 2025 16:46

??
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1895 (>99%)
Allen Robert Scarbro' 9d 605
Baker Robert Scarbro' 9d 605
Brown Elizabeth Ann Scarbro' 9d 605
Thompson Ann Scarbro' 9d 605

??
Deaths Dec 1893 (>99%)
Brown George 38 Scarbro' 9d 290

Abby

Abby Report 27 Mar 2025 16:53

Name

David Brown

Sex

Male

Age

3 years

Birth Year (Estimated)

1888

Birthplace Yorkshire, England
Marital Status

Single

Relationship to Head of Household Son
Event Type Census
Event Date 1891
Event Place Scarborough, North Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original) Scarborough, Yorkshire, Yorkshire (North Riding), England
Enumeration District 5
Registration District Scarborough
Household Identifier 5757009
Line Number 2
Page Number 46
Piece/Folio 3964/ 65
Registration Number RG12
David Brown's Extended Family

Close All
Arthur Brown
Son
M
0 days
Yorkshire, England

Arthur Brown person details
Name

Arthur Brown

Sex

Male

Age

0 days

Birth Year (Estimated)

1891

Birthplace Yorkshire, England
Marital Status

Single

Relationship to Head of Household Son
Event Type Census
Event Date 1891
Event Place Scarborough, North Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original) Scarborough, Yorkshire, Yorkshire (North Riding), England
Enumeration District 5
Registration District Scarborough
Household Identifier 5757009
Line Number 2
Page Number 46
Piece/Folio 3964/ 65
Registration Number RG12
Charlotte Darby
Aunt
F
72 years
Yorkshire, England

Charlotte Darby person details
Name

Charlotte Darby

Sex

Female

Age

72 years

Birth Year (Estimated)

1819

Birthplace Yorkshire, England
Marital Status

Married

Relationship to Head of Household Aunt
Event Type Census
Event Date 1891
Event Place Scarborough, North Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original) Scarborough, Yorkshire, Yorkshire (North Riding), England
Enumeration District 5
Registration District Scarborough
Household Identifier 5757009
Line Number 2
Page Number 46
Piece/Folio 3964/ 65
Registration Number RG12

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Mar 2025 16:58

That one ( born 1888) was in Southampton in 1921

Edited 28/3

1921 Census Of England & Wales
44, Norfolk Road, Southampton, Hampshire, England

David Brown Head Male 1888 33 Scarborough, Yorkshire, England Secondary Schoolmaster The Endowed Schools Governes, Southampton
Gertrude Brown Wife Female 1889 32 Scarborough, Yorkshire, England Home Duties

Marriages Sep 1911 (>99%)
Brown David Scarbro 9d 749
Simpson Gertrude Scarbro 9d 749

greyghost

greyghost Report 27 Mar 2025 17:01

If correct family -

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1881 (>99%)
Brown Peter Scarbro' 9d 507 <<<<<<<<
DOUGLASS Elizabeth Ann Scarbro' 9d 507 <<<<<<
DRAYTON George Scarbro' 9d 507
LEPPINGTON Ann Scarborough 9d 507

? Deaths Dec 1889 (>99%)
BROWN Peter 34 Scarbro'

Elizabeth Ann Brown md Robert Allen 1895 (already posted)

greyghost

greyghost Report 27 Mar 2025 17:01

??
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
91, Long West Gate, Scarborough, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (North Riding), England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Ann E Brown Head Widow Female 27 1864 Charwoman Scarborough, Yorkshire, England
Maude Brown Daughter - Female 7 1884 Scholar Scarborough
Harry Brown Son - Male 5 1886 Scholar Scarborough
Florence Brown Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Scarborough

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Mar 2025 17:02

ONLY the marriage cert will give an accurate answer (as long as he told the truth)
He may not have been a 'Brown' at birth

greyghost

greyghost Report 27 Mar 2025 17:04

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
BROWN, MAUD ELIZABETH DOUGLAS
GRO Reference: 1883 D Quarter in SCARBOROUGH Volume 09D Page 348

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
ALLEN, ELIZABETH ANN DOUGLASS
GRO Reference: 1897 S Quarter in SCARBOROUGH Volume 09D Page 407

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 Mar 2025 17:11

?????
William
Country England
Last name Brown
Volume 9D
Marriage quarter 2
Volume as transcribed 9D
Marriage year 1890
Page number 561
Registration month -
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
MarriageFinderâ„¢ William Brown married one of these people
Ellen Horsley, Eliza Lacey
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Scarborough
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
District number -
Collections from Great Britain, England
County Yorkshire


© brightsolid online publishing ltd

or

John George
Country England
Last name Brown
Volume 9D
Marriage quarter 1
Volume as transcribed 9D
Marriage year 1885
Page number 475
Registration month -
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
MarriageFinderâ„¢ John George Brown married one of these people
Elizabeth Nicholson, Eliza Fowler
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Scarborough

greyghost

greyghost Report 27 Mar 2025 17:13

Again, if correct family - Peter Brown(e) a lodger with the Douglas family

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
4, Swan Hill Road, Scarborough, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (North Riding), England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
E Ann Douglas Head Widow Female 42 1839 Lodging house keeper Scalby, Yorkshire, England
S Jane Douglas Daughter Single Female 19 1862 Domestic servt Scarborough, Yorkshire, England
E A Douglas Daughter Single Female 18 1863 Domestic servt Scarborough, Yorkshire, England
M H Douglas Daughter Single Female 14 1867 Domestic servt Scarborough, Yorkshire, England
G W Douglas Son Single Male 6 1875 Scholar Scarborough, Yorkshire, England
Joseph Douglas Son Single Male 1 1880 - Scarborough, Yorkshire, England
Peter Browne Lodger Single Male 22 1859 Fisherman Scarborough, Yorkshire, England

Maddie

Maddie Report 28 Mar 2025 13:38

re greyghosts post at 1701
BROWN, FLORENCE DOUGLASS
GRO Reference: 1888 D Quarter in SCARBOROUGH Volume 09D Page 361


BROWN, MAUD ELIZABETH DOUGLAS
GRO Reference: 1883 D Quarter in SCARBOROUGH Volume 09D Page 348


BROWN, HARRY DOUGLASS DOUGLASS
GRO Reference: 1886 J Quarter in SCARBOROUGH Volume 09D Page 371
????????????????????????

Elizabeth Ann Douglas
Gender Female
Age 18
Birth Date 1863
Marriage Date 17 Apr 1881
Marriage Place Scarborough, York, England
Father
Joseph Douglas
Spouse
Peter Brown
FHL Film Number 1702747
Reference ID p226 item451

maybe correct

Elizabeth Ann Douglass
Gender F (Female)
Birth Date 1863
Birth Place Scarborough, Yorkshire (Scarborough), North Yorkshire (Yorkshire), England, United Kingdom
Marriage Date 1881
Marriage Place Scarborough, Yorkshire (Scarborough), North Yorkshire (Yorkshire), England, United Kingdom
Marriage 2 Date 1895
Marriage 2 Place Scarborough, Yorkshire (Scarborough), North Yorkshire (Yorkshire), England, United Kingdom
Spouse
Peter Brown
Robert Allen
Child
Elizabeth Ann Allen
Lillian Allen
Mary Hannah Allen
Florence Brown
Harry Douglass Brown
Maud Elizabeth Brown
Montague George Brown
View on Geneanet
https://gw.geneanet.org/jemima3?n=douglass&oc=&p=elizabeth+ann


Elizabeth Ann Douglass
Registration Year 1881 [1881]
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration District Scarborough
Inferred County Yorkshire North Riding
Volume 9d
Page 507
Records on Page (Name)
Peter Brown
Elizabeth Ann Douglass

Peter
County Yorkshire
Last name Brown
Volume 9D
Sex Male
Page 267
Birth year 1855
Country England
Age 34
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Death quarter 4
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Death year 1889
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
District Scarborough

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
3, Marrys Passage, Scarborough, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (North Riding), England
View original record
Household members (6 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles Brown Head
Married Male 49 1812 Mariner Scarborough, Yorkshire, England
Catherine Brown Wife
Married Female 30 1831 - Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales
Hannah Brown Daughter
- Female 12 1849 Scholar Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
John Brown Son
- Male 10 1851 Scholar Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Peter Brown Son
- Male 5 1856 Scholar Scarborough, Yorkshire, England
Charles E Brown Son
- Male 0 1861 Scholar Scarborough, Yorkshire, England

Maddie

Maddie Report 28 Mar 2025 14:21

BROWN, HAROLD DAVID HORSLEY
GRO Reference: 1885 D Quarter in SCARBOROUGH Volume 09D Page 355

?????
Annie Horsley
Registration Year 1880 [1880]
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District Scarborough
Inferred County Yorkshire North Riding
Volume 9d
Page 645
Records on Page (Name)
Fanny Barnett
Tom Brown
William Fawcett
Annie Horsley -

1901
Name Harold Brown
Age 15
Estimated Birth Year abt 1886
Relation to Head Son
Gender Male
Father Tom Brown
Mother Annie Brown
Birth Place Filey, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish Filey
Search Photos
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Ecclesiastical parish Filey St Oswald
Town Filey
County/Island Yorkshire
Country England
Registration District Scarborough
Sub-registration district Filey
ED, institution, or vessel 4
Neighbors
Piece 4528
Folio 55
Page number 4
Household schedule number 20
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Tom Brown

46

Head
Annie Brown

41

Wife
Arthur Horsley Brown

19

Son
Blanch Brown

16

Daughter
Harold Brown 15 Son
Philip Brown

19

Son
Donald Brown

8

Son
Hilda Brown

4

Daughter
Francis Bayliss

16

Visitor
Emily Rickaby

12

BROWN, ARTHUR HORSELEY HORSELEY
GRO Reference: 1881 J Quarter in SCARBOROUGH Volume 09D Page 356

Maddie

Maddie Report 28 Mar 2025 14:53

1911 Census For England & Wales
5 Rutland St Filey Yks, Filey, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (North Riding), England
View original record
Household members (4 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Tom Brown Head
Married Male 56 1855 House painter Rudston Yorks
Annie Brown Wife
Married Female 52 1859 Lodging house keeper Driffield Yorks
Harold Brown Son
Single Male 25 1886 Joint manager Filey Yorks
Hilda Brown Daughter
Single Female 14 1897 - Filey Yorks

Name Tom Brown
Gender Male
Marital Status Married
Age 66 Years 7 Months
Relation to Head Head
Estimated Birth Year 1854
Birth Place Yorkshire, England
Residence Date 1921
Residence Street Address 54 West Avenue, Giley
Residence Place Filey, Yorkshire (North Riding), England
Occupation Painter
Occupation Code 592/6
Employer Hy Willis Painters
Employer Code 465
Place of Work At Home
Number of Children Under 16 1
Inhabited Y
Parliamentary Division East Riding of Yorkshire Pc, Buckrose Div.
Registration District Scarborough
Registration District Number 527
Sub registration district Filey
Sub Registration District Number 1
Respondent Mr Brown
Enumeration District Name Filey Ud
Enumeration District 3
Schedule 283
Schedule Type Code E
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Tom Brown 66 Years 7 Months Head
Annie Brown

62 Years 3 Months

Wife
Philip Charles Brown

30 Years 9 Months

Son
Blanche Margaret Brown

37 Years 2 Months

Daughter
James Harold Brown

3 Years 3 Months

Grandson
Jessie Whitaker

43 Years 5 Months

Visitor
Dorothy Macaulay

18 Years 6 Months

Visitor
Elsie Foxley

28 Years 6 Months

Visitor
Hilda Nendick

22 Years 6 Months

Visitor
Patrick Noall


Tom
Mother's first name(s) Margaret
Last name Brown
County Yorkshire (East Riding)
Birth year 1855
Country England
Birth date 28 Nov 1855
Archive East Riding Archives & Local Studies Service
Baptism year 1857
Archive reference PE 142/6
Baptism date 17 Sep 1857
Page 48
Baptism place Filey
Record set Yorkshire Baptisms
Denomination Anglican
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Father's first name(s) David

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Mar 2025 15:27

Name Emily F Brown
Death Age 78
Birth Date abt 1886
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District Holderness
Inferred County Yorkshire East Riding
Volume 2a
Page 58

There is a lengthy obituary in the Hull Daily Mail dated 2nd October 1964
Her husband was still alive,although an invalid.

1939 Register
Q Gate, Filling Station, Queensgate, Beverley, Beverley R.D., Yorkshire (East Riding), England
David Brown 31 May 1885 Male Steam Crane Driver Married 110 1
Francis Brown 04 Jun 1887 Female Partner Petrol Filling Steam Married 110 2
George Brown 05 Dec 1909 Male Transport Driver Married 110 3