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I know that my grandfather existed in 1924 at 34 Greengate Salford until 1930.Cannot find a marraige between him and my grandmother.His name is on birth certs for my father and one of his brothers.No age is given for him only the above address.He is also named on g.mothers death cert.The only document that would have had his dob on would have been a marraige cert.How can I find out his dob?His name was Harold Brierley and was with his wife? Mary Agnes Brierley nee Mitchell on birth certs.Found Mary was born 1893 in Chorlton but on 1901 census surname was Golden but really Goulden.The name Mitchell was from a marraige to Thomas Goulden in 1914.Have gained all info on her but nothing on Harold Brierley.Can anyone help me find his dob? PLEASE!!! Wanda.x

do you have his marriage cert as might give his age and you will have a better idea what years to start looking in

Have you tried looking through the complete BMD on Ancestry for the marriage?

No thats what Im saying.If I had a marraige cert for him and my grandmother then it would be on there.Is there any other way with the info I have on him from 1924 to find out his dob? A lady has found details on a Harold Brierley in ww1 but still need to know his dob to see if it is him.Wanda.

Wanda Marriage cert wont have his DOB if you are lucky will give his age but a lot say of Full Age. Only Birth Cert will give exact DOB

Have traced Mary through her marraige to Thomas Mitchell in 1914.It gave her age and maiden name.Have looked on census~s,bmd and have found a few Harold Brierleys that could? be him but without his dob am stumped! Wanda.x

James Brierley dob 18/031925 (my father) Herbert Brierley dob 30/03/1928.Address 34 Greengate Salford.Father Harold Brierley-mother Mary Agnes Brierley nee Mitchell.Her middle name was Ellen and not Agnes.She had 4 other children William Goulden dob 23/04/1911 unmarried in Chorlton-Mary Mitchell dob 25/04/1914-Leo Mitchell dob 16/03/1919 then Harold Mitchell dob 09/07/1922.On Leo and Harolds birth certs no fathers name given.When she married Thomas Mitchell on the 21/03/1914 she was Mary Ellen Goulden.Wanda.x

As I said a marraige cert would give fathers name so a trace can be done from there....Reg do not know when Thomas Mitchell died as they married when the war started but he is not around on the birth certs of Leo in 1919 or Harold in 1922.....In 1924 Harold is on the the 1924 electoral roll at 34 greengate,Salford with Mary and after Marys death in 1931 there is no trace of him.Without his dob cant link him to anyone.Is there any other way I can find this out.Wanda.x

I have checked the complete BMD for 1920- 25 2nd qutr and no luck for a Harold Brierley with the right wife

Leo always thought his surname was Brierley until he went for his birth cert for pension and found he was registered as Mitchell.Harold Brierley must have been around when he was young for him to believe this was his father.Would the local records in Salford have any idea as to his age.It does say on Herberts birth cert that his occupation was a general labourer,Highways Corporation.Wanda.x...Thanks for looking K.Thats what Im saying hes theresomewhere but need dob.

What year did Mary Agnes Brierley die? On the death certificate was she wife or widow of Harold? Fiona.

Reggie.Found Mary jnr.She married a thomas Patrick Delaney in 1935 but she died the same year.Leo married Eunice Theresa Gaskell in 1949.He died in 1996.My father James died in 1999.Have found nothing on William,Harold or Herbert.They were taken into care after the death of their mum.There are only snippets which I learned from my dad.Hewas only 6 when they were taken away.The 2 elder boys were sent to Buckley Hall in Rochdale but no records kept.Dad and Herbert to Didsbury and then split up.Herbert went to Buckley in 1941 but no info after that.

Fiona.Mary Agnes Brierley died 22/11/1930 aged 38yrs.Harold Brierley widower of deceased registered death.She died in Ladywell Sanatorium,Salford.

PLEASE all of you.Do not give up on me on this.Harold is my missing link.IF I could find what happened to William,Harold or Herbert then maybe they would have a bit of info but wouldnt hold my breath on it.Can anyone see a way to find him? Wanda x..in complete desperation!!

I am sorry Wanda - The only thing I can suggest is trawling through the complete images for marriages for both of them up to the year Mary died. It could be that Harold was a second christian name and he was married using the first name. It is worth spending the time checking the different options Good Luck Kay

Hi Wanda, It's along shot but traditionally Christian names were passed on throughout the generations and I was working on the possibility that either James or Herbert were named after their grandfather - Harold's father In 1901 there is Harold Brierley born Oldham 1891 to Herbert and Emily There is a Harold born 1891 Manchester to James and Louisa M and Harold born 1892, Manchester to James W and Mary E I've trawled the complete marriage records from 1921 to 1928 and the closest thing that I came across was Herbert Brierley married to ----Goulding in June quarter of 1922 in Oldham Good Luck, something will eventually appear and probably by sheer chance and when you least expect it

Thank you to ALL of you for tryingto help.Sylvia..worked on that possibility myself and found the manchester one maybe the most likely.ww1 records brings up one of the other ones as parents of a Harold Brierley wounded.Just needed to know if there was ANY other way to find his dob with the little info I have.Fiona...Kay....Reg...Have trawled that many records but everything assumption so far.Just wanted to know if the info on him is in deeper depth.Can his work records be traced with him working for Highways Corporation?If anyone knows a way round this please help me? Wanda.x

I know people were a lot more literate by this time but have you considered various spellings, Brearley, Brereley etc. His wife was obviously unaware of the Goulden/Golden spelling.

Marriages 1922 BRIERLEY Harold GOULDING Doris Oldham, St. Paul Oldham www.lancashirebmd.org.uk

Helen,I have got Herbert not Harold for this marraige.Are you sure? Wanda.x