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Glad to be of help, Laura. I've had a good week myself with the help of a librarian at Hastings Library, so it's nice to share the good luck around. Kath. x

Hi Kath Have spoken to Joan (the daughter) and she remembers Rose so looks like we got the right family (I mean you did). She has a framed photo on her sideboard who she knows is Ethel's mum but didn't know her name, and I look at it every week. Now we know her name was Sarah it brings the photo to life. Thanks again Laura

Kath If we were in the same room I would kiss you! She knows they came from big families but can't remember any names, just visiting some. Will call her tonight after I put the kids to bed to chat about the info you found. Bet a few are familiar. Really appreciate you looking for me. Thank you.

And this could be George (only these two come up with middle initial R):- Esther McCarthy abt 1871 Pentonville, London, England Wife Edmonton Middlesex George R McCarthy abt 1869 Pentonville, London, England Head Edmonton Middlesex >>>George R McCarthy abt 1897 City Road, London, England Son Edmonton Middlesex Address 33 St. George's Road. Kath. x

This is the only Ethel K. Riley who comes up on the 1901 census (and she is in London):- Charles K Riley abt 1900 Battersea, London, England Son Battersea London Elizabeth J Riley abt 1896 Battersea, London, England Daughter Battersea London >>>Ethel K Riley abt 1895 Chelsea, London, England Daughter Battersea London Harry E Riley abt 1872 Notting Hill, London, England Head Battersea London Harry J Riley abt 1899 Battersea, London, England Son Battersea London Rose F Riley abt 1897 Battersea, London, England Daughter Battersea London Sarah Riley abt 1873 Chelsea, London, England Wife Battersea London Address 85 Surrey Lane. Maybe her daughter might remember some of her aunt's and uncles' names. Kath. x

That's it thank you. Will probably be back when I can't find them on the census!!

Suzanne and Kathleen have found the marriage - do you need anyhing else ??

Thank you so much for your help. Daughter is over the moon we have found it and can't wait to see marriage cert. She knows they both came over from Ireland as children with their family but doesn't have any info on them. At least with the marriage cert I can get their ages and start on the census's. She is ringing her sister in Canada to tell her!!! Thank you so much you have made two old women very happy.

Older people often only 'remember' things when you give them a push in the right direction, lol Kath. x

And now she remembers Ethel was in service with a banker and his family in that area

Am on the phone to daughter! She has just remembered he was invalided (is that a word) out of the army early with a shoulder wound!!

There is this marriage in 1917:- Ethel K. Riley, spouse McCarthy, June qtr,. 1917, Kingston, 2a, 830 (the page number isn't too clear) Kath. x

Suzanne That 3rd one sounds very promising. That's the only one I know matches! Thanks will investigate. I didn't check 1917 because the daughter was sure he wasn't around then! She is in her 80s but her brain is all there, I think! But you're right, I shouldn't rely on anything she tells me.

There is a corresponding entry for the one above for Ethel K Riley in the indexes so this is your marriage! Mccarthy George R Riley Kingston.2a 830 Marriage 2 1917 Married Ethel k riley Suzanne

Annie Unfortunately we do not know but both the children, born in 1919/1921 were in Battersea so marriage may have been there. Elaine Searched under George McCarthy and results listed MACarthy and McCarthy and looked at all the images for these by quarter for the years I posted. The only thing close was a George H Mccarthy marrying a Riley in 1915 qtr 1 but cross checked this on Riley search and her name was Mary. So I am none the wiser

3rd one looks likely? No Surname Forename1 Forename2 Forename3 Spouse District Page No Event Quarter Year View Image Match 1 Mccarthy George H Riley Chorlton.8c 1340 Marriage 1 1915 2 Mccarthy Elizabeth Riley St George Hanover Square.1a 866 Marriage 4 1915 >>>3 Mccarthy George R Riley Kingston.2a 830 Marriage 2 1917 4 Mccarthy Elizabeth Riley Pontypridd.11a 1077 Marriage 3 1918

And bear in mind that however adamant relatives are, they often don't remember dates correctly. My grandmother said she hadn't been to Cornwall, her mother's birth county, since before WW1 but she went in 1920 as I have a letter sent to her there. nell

did you look at images on ancestry free bmd http://www.ancestry(.)co.uk/search/rectype/vital/freebmd/bmd.aspx remove brackets Jeanette

Freebmd doesn't have many records for after 1910 yet. Ancestry also has freebmd info. Have you looked on the Ancestry England & Wales bmds which give images of the index pages? nell

When you searched on Ancestry did you check the complete images where you search through each quarter of each year ?