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Gail

Gail Report 11 Apr 2006 12:15

Hi, I am trying to find John Henry Speakman who was born 1881ish in I believe Bolton. Thanks Gail

Carrie

Carrie Report 11 Apr 2006 12:16

is this him in 1901 Alice Dudley abt 1886 Farnworth, Lancashire, England Daughter Farnworth Lancashire Ann Dudley abt 1862 Kearsley, Lancashire, England Wife Farnworth Lancashire Dora M A Dudley abt 1900 Farnworth, Lancashire, England Daughter Farnworth Lancashire Edward Dudley abt 1862 Denby, Wrexham Head Farnworth Lancashire Edward Dudley abt 1892 Farnworth, Lancashire, England Son Farnworth Lancashire Hilda E Dudley abt 1897 Farnworth, Lancashire, England Daughter Farnworth Lancashire Horace S Dudley abt 1896 Farnworth, Lancashire, England Son Farnworth Lancashire John H Speakman abt 1882 Farnworth, Lancashire, England Son Farnworth Lancashire 1891 Alice Dudley abt 1886 Farnworth, Lancashire, England Daughter Farnworth Lancashire View Record Ann Dudley abt 1862 Kearsley, Lancashire, England Wife Farnworth Lancashire View Record Edward Dudley abt 1863 Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales Head Farnworth Lancashire

Elaine

Elaine Report 11 Apr 2006 12:22

and the marriage of Edward Dudley to Ann Speakman Marriages Mar 1886 DUDLEY Edward Bolton 8c 328 Speakman Ann Bolton 8c 328

Gail

Gail Report 11 Apr 2006 12:24

Hi Carrie, Yes that is my John Speakman but I am unable to find his birth so that I can get his certificate. Gail

Elaine

Elaine Report 11 Apr 2006 12:27

1891 John Hy Speakman abt 1882 Farnworth, Lancashire, England Son Farnworth Lancashire He was with Alice, Ann and Edward Dudley - as shown on Carries thread above

Gail

Gail Report 11 Apr 2006 12:29

What I am trying to say is that I have not been able to find his bith in the bmd index. Gail

Elaine

Elaine Report 11 Apr 2006 12:31

sorry - Gail - I know what you are after - am just working my own way back.

Carrie

Carrie Report 11 Apr 2006 12:31

Have you sent for any John Speakman's birth certificates? the name Henry may not appear on the BC.

Gail

Gail Report 11 Apr 2006 12:33

Hi Elanie, I am just grateful for any help. Thanks Gail

Carrie

Carrie Report 11 Apr 2006 12:36

If anything this could be it, it covers Farnworth Births Dec 1882 Speakman John William Bolton 8c 398 Oop's Sorry Copied the wrong one then, thanks for noticing:)) Gail, Maybe the family changed his middle name afterwards?? stranfer things have happened?? you could always send for it with Reference to mother called Ann ?

Elaine

Elaine Report 11 Apr 2006 12:39

I thought Farnworth came under the registration district of Bolton

Gail

Gail Report 11 Apr 2006 12:40

No, I was hoping to narrow it down. Gail

Elaine

Elaine Report 11 Apr 2006 12:44

How about this one 1881 3rd quarter John Henry Speakman District Bolton Vol 8c Page 309

Gail

Gail Report 11 Apr 2006 12:47

That one feels very likely. Thank you so much. I bet you can't find his marriage to Mary Ann Whalley. All i know about her is that she died in 1937 aged 60. Gail

Carrie

Carrie Report 11 Apr 2006 12:47

Elaine You clever thing, I didn't see that one at all:) must be going blind. Carrie

Carrie

Carrie Report 11 Apr 2006 12:51

Gail You need to give some pointers, he probably married in the usual time span but hi may have married much later, were there any children born to give some scale to look. You know you can look up FREE on the following like we do. www.ancestry(.)co(.)uk/search/rectype/vital/freebmd/bmd.aspx http://freebmd(.)rootsweb(.)com/cgi/search.pl www.ancestry(.)com

Elaine

Elaine Report 11 Apr 2006 12:54

was just about to ask same questions as Carrie - any idea of place, children etc.

Gail

Gail Report 11 Apr 2006 12:58

Their first born Edward was in 1904 in Barnsley. The others were all born there as well. Gail

Elaine

Elaine Report 11 Apr 2006 13:21

Sorry cant find anything on free bmd. Have searched the beta indexes from 1901 - 1904 and can´t see anything there. I will leave you to keep trawling through the years either side of these !!!

Carrie

Carrie Report 11 Apr 2006 13:25

Ditto just been doing the same, there is a John Henry Speakman marrying in 1908 Sculcoates, Yorkshire? did he marry after kids were born, marry twice? may not even be him?? Carrie