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More thanks - and yes please, I would love the 1871 image. address is [email protected] And please stop calling me Richard!!!! Looks like this thread should be closed - next one will be my REAL BIG challenge (if anyone is interested!!!) Peter

Possible demise of Hepzibah's mother (can't find father's) Deaths Dec 1849 Shepherd Elizabeth Lexden &c vol12 page 96 Shepherd Elizabeth Lexden &c vol12 page 95 Ozi Bird Well done, I think you have cracked it. Possible that surname was mispronounced/misheard, or just plain lazy and slurred the 'd' out. Don't get me started on sloppy pronounciations!!!

Sadlers born in Brightlingsea c 1856 in 1871 census Amelia Sadler abt 1853 Brightlingsea, Essex, England Servant Wivenhoe Essex Kate Sadler abt 1853 Bughthingaea, Essex, England Servant St Anne Limehouse London (Limehouse near to Poplar)

Lovely morning in Auckland NZ and gets better every minute with the sort of help I'm getting.!!!!!! Since she married in Poplar - is it feasible to look for Sadlers in Poplar Must work on Rashbrook too (grandson) - I've seen that name somewhere before(lol) Peter (who needs Ancestry for Xmas) :-))

Looking in 1871 there is this entry, I know name is wrong, but perhaps lady of house didn't like name Fanny? Kate Sadler abt 1853 Bughthingaea, Essex, England Servant St Anne Limehouse London (Brightlingsea on image) Ok I got it wrong (so what's new, I hear you cry!!!) Looks like that is her older sister Catherine in 1861 census.

I've looked at all 32 images for Brightlingsea in 1871 - no sign of Fanny E!

Thanks for all of this- major growth of tree. However, I think I still have one problem - have not found the birth of Fanny E Sadler. Until then I do know that Heph jnr, Catherine and Fanny are all grandaughters of the same person but I can't be certain that they are sisters - looks like a search of 1837 this weekend is in order - i must get the evidence!! - and I still haven't got them in 71 - somewhere in Brightlingsea there's a black hole or an aliien spaceship! Peter Peter

OK - Story to date: Hep Sheeperdborn 1829 married unknown Sadler before 1852, had 3 children - Catherine, Fanny E and Hep jnr, then Hep Snr married Curtis in 1861 and had more children. Hep's parents John and Elizabeth Sheeperd. Can't find Sheeperd/Sadler marriage, cant find daughters in 1871, Fanny E reappears at 75 marriage. Tired and going to bed - will come back to this in the morning to see if the resident geniusses have a solution to the missing bits. Thanks again Peter related to almost everyone in brightlingsea!!

just putting 1871 back with the above marriage ref Ada L Curtis abt 1867 Brightlingsea, Essex, England Daughter Brightlingsea Essex Henry H Curtis abt 1836 Great Clacton, Essex, England Head Brightlingsea Essex Hephzibah E Curtis abt 1829 Brightlingsea, Essex, England Wife Brightlingsea Essex Hephzibah E Curtis abt 1853 Brightlingsea, Essex, England Daughter Brightlingsea Essex Lillie M Curtis abt 1865 Brightlingsea, Essex, England Daughter Brightlingsea Essex Oscar H Curtis abt 1863 Brightlingsea, Essex, England Son Brightlingsea Essex Shepherd J Curtis abt 1869 Brightlingsea, Essex, England Son Brightlingsea Essex << why call your son SHEPHERD id it isnt your maiden name ? maybe a clue

No - I have none of them in 71 - tracked Fanny back from BMD marriages with a bit of inspired guesswork. Suspect they were either missed or very mistranscribed..... P

Hephziba Elizabeth Sheepard b 22/8/1829 to John and Elizabeth bap 30/5/1830 at Waterside Lane New Jerusalem Chapel, Brightlingsea. Am off to bed - will check in the morning - thanks to all so far. Peter

Thanks Ozi Bird - last desperate hope - could you have a look at'Fanny' b 1856 in brightlingsea and see if anything pops up as a mis-transcription? Or perhaps 'Hephzibah' b 1853 Peter

.any clue in the house/page before? P

thinking....whjo is the head in 61? P

Births of Catherine Mary Sadler and Hephzibah Sadler are both inBMD Sep 53 and Jun 52 - where have they gone in 71. Fanny Eliza married 1875, should be in 71 as well (marriage in Poplar) Peter

Birth of 'grandaughter' Hepzibah SADLER, Hephzibah Elizabeth Record Type: Births Quarter: June Year: 1852 District: Lexden County: Essex Volume: 4a Page: 228

Going on her name, there is this entry in 1851, she is a housekeeper. Eliza Gardner abt 1835 Brightlingsea, Essex, England Visitor Brightlingsea Essex David Shepherd abt 1839 Brightlingsea, Essex, England Son Brightlingsea Essex >>Hepzibah E Shepherd abt 1830 Brightlingsea, Essex, England Head Brightlingsea Essex Luke Shepherd abt 1836 Brightlingsea, Essex, England Son The image does indeed say son, but brother would be more appropriate!! Can't find a marriage on Ancestry.

No males in household in 1861. Given the age of the children, it's possible Hepzibah married between 1851-1861. On image, she is shown as a widow.

Three more questions please - are there any males in the house (whose daughter is Hephzebah in the 1861)? Can Hephzibah be found in 1851 (before children are born)? Where are they in 1871? Peter

FANTASTIC - solves another problem for me Thanks Peter