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My GGGrandparents were born in Ireland, not yet traced a marriage but all children born in Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire. I have the family in 51/61 and 71. This is 1871 living at 12 Curzon Road, Ashton under Lyne: Ann McGladdery abt 1843 Hurst, Lancashire, England Daughter Ashton under Lyne Lancashire James McGladdery abt 1812 Ireland Head Ashton under Lyne Lancashire Jane McGladdery abt 1838 Hurst, Lancashire, England Daughter Ashton under Lyne Lancashire John McGladdery abt 1861 Hurst, Lancashire, England Grandson Ashton under Lyne Lancashire Mary McGladdery abt 1811 Ireland Wife Ashton under Lyne James died in 1873 at the same address. After that, Mary vanishes along with the 2 daughters. I can't find deaths or marriages although the family changed the spelling of the surname constantly...Gladrey/Gladney/Gladsey/Glathers/Glathery/Gladthery. Take your pick! I know there's a chance that Mary and the daughters returned to Ireland after James died but would appreciate a fresh set of eyes (or six!) to see whether anything turns up for them in later years. Maybe someone else can see something I've missed Thanks Lou

Have you looked for a re-marriage for Mary? Pat

Sorry Lou It's got me stumped. But then, I still can't find James or George Broad after 1871!

lol Nell Maybe they went on a ship to Ireland with this lot! Hi Pat Have trawled the parish registers at the local RO (figuring it would be easier and cheaper than trying all these varying name spellings on family relatives) but can't find anything for her or the daughters

Possible marriage for Ann: McGladery, Ann Record Type: Marriages Quarter: December Year: 1871 District: Ashton under Lyne County: Cheshire Lancashire Volume: 8d Page: 1012 Groom is either Bain, James OR Simister, John nell

Wow....you're a star! Totally missed that one Thank you

Looked for Ann Bain and Ann Simister and James Bain and John Simister with appropriate wives on census - nothing! nell

So maybe Ann and her new husband went to Ireland with Mary???? I'll get her marriage cert this week...see whether that gives any clues Thanks again Lou

Lou Probobally clutching at straws here, the closest I can find for a Ann and James Bain entry is the following in 1881: Not sure what's going on with American daughter. Image could read Baines or Bainer! James is a stripper and grinder, Ann is a Weaver. View Record Ann Baines abt 1844 Ashton, Lancashire, England Wife 92 Church St Botany, Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire, England View Record James Baines abt 1841 Kildare, Ireland Head 92 Church St Botany, Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire, England View Record Mary Baines abt 1873 Fall River, America Daughter 92 Church St Botany, Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire, England RG11/4037 Registration district: Ashton Under Lyne Sub-registration district: Ashton Town ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Folio: 37 Page: 17 Lib:))

Goodnight Lou, going to bed my self shortly. PS, dont forget to turn your clock back! Lib:))

Ooooh, an hour extra in bed....just a shame I can't reprogramme the kids....lol! Nite x

Lib James and Mary's eldest son (my gggrandfather) was BORN on Botany Street, Ashton under Lyne. Oh lordy...don't tell me they all emigrated to America after James died but some came back......! Pauline I spotted that one earlier but didn't want to get too excited cos there's a lot of McGladdery's in Cumbria in the earlier census so there may be more than one Jane. Shall have to try and find her and whichever chap she married in 1901 Here they are...Jane married John Styler and was born in 1877 in Maryport, Cumberland, so not my Jane unfortunately Thanks both of you Lou

Its looking like they did, some coincidence otherwise!

What's that site for American immigration....is it Ellis Island or something? Grrrr....I don't NEED any more headaches with this lot....born in Ireland was bad enough!

Sorry Lou Ive no idea, perhaps a 'google will help' Can you elliminate this for Mary 1811, Im posting it just in case it means anything! It's the Cheshire area that's prompting me to post, not far from Ashton under Lyne (if my geography is correct) lol View Record John Forrest abt 1871 Lymm, Cheshire, England Visitor 45 Alexander St, Monks Coppenhall, Cheshire, England View Record William Forrest abt 1870 Warrington, Lancashire, England Visitor 45 Alexander St, Monks Coppenhall, Cheshire, England View Record Ellen Mccaldon abt 1853 Ireland Aunt 45 Alexander St, Monks Coppenhall, Cheshire, England View Record James Mccaldon abt 1856 Ireland Head 45 Alexander St, Monks Coppenhall, Cheshire, England >>>View Record Mary Mccaldon abt 1811 Ireland Mother 45 Alexander St, Monks Coppenhall, Cheshire, England Source information: RG11/3540 Registration district: Nantwich Sub-registration district: Wybunbury ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Folio: 97 Page: 17

Double GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR....too early for Ellis Island

Hi Lib Yep, can eliminate that one. Son James was born 1840 in Ashton under Lyne and if my memory serves me correctly is on later census with a child but no wife! I'd have to drag out the notes to be more definite Lou

This is interesting.....1880 US Census. Who are these, I wonder? Same place as the daughter of James and Ann Baines was born James MCGLATHERY Self M Male W 35 ENG Works In Cotton Mill ENG ENG Ann MCGLATHERY Wife M Female W 34 ENG Keeps House ENG ENG George MCGLATHERY Son S Male W 11 MA At School ENG ENG Mary MCGLATHERY Dau S Female W 9 MA ENG ENG Annie MCGLATHERY Dau S Female W 6 MA ENG ENG Kate MCGLATHERY Dau S Female W 4 MA ENG ENG James MCGLATHERY Son S Male W 6M MA ENG ENG Source Information: Census Place Fall River, Bristol, Massachusetts Family History Library Film 1254525 NA Film Number T9-0525

Lou Had a quick look around for info on American immigration and this site seems to be mentioned quite often. Ive not checked it out so Ive no Idea what you will find! American archives and Immigration This site may be of interest~ http://www(.)archives(.)gov/about_us/index(.)html ***************************** Blimey, looks like you have your work cut out. I would'nt know where to start!