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Sheena

Sheena Report 31 Aug 2007 16:11

I finally got my nan's birth cert this morning... oh what a painful wait!
Anyhow, it seems that my great grandmother possibly married before. This is what I can make of it, maybe you might have a better idea.

It says "Eliza Gillham, late Ansley, formerly Dadson." under mothers name.
Father's name is John William Gillham.

My nan is Syvia Joan Gillham, born Jun 1927 Swanscombe, Kent.

Is it possibly to find any information from this? Been stuck on these rellies for 3 years and it's driving me nuts.

Any help is gratefully received.

Sheena x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Aug 2007 16:17

First marriage

Charles Henry Ansley 1909 Jan-Feb-Mar Dartford Kent
Eliza Dadson 1909 Jan-Feb-Mar Dartford Kent
Volume: 2a Page: 795

Reg

Julie

Julie Report 31 Aug 2007 16:17

Might be her birth


Births Dec 1887 (>99%)


Dadson Eliza Ann Dartford 2a 476

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Aug 2007 16:19

First husband's death

Name: Charles H Ansley
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Year of Registration: 1915
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 48
District: Dartford
County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 775

Reg

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Aug 2007 16:20

A couple of children (at least) from the first marriage

Elsie E Ansley 1912 Jul-Aug-Sep Dadson Dartford Kent
Eric J Ansley 1914 Oct-Nov-Dec Dadson Dartford Kent

Reg

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 31 Aug 2007 16:21

Was your nan the eldest Gillham child or were there others born before her - to help with determining when the parents married?

Kath. x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Aug 2007 16:21

1901 census

Name: Eliza Dadson
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: Sawnscombe, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Swanscombe
Ecclesiastical parish: Swanscombe St Peter and St Paul
Town: Swanscombe
County/Island: Kent
Country: England


Registration district: Dartford
Sub-registration district: Dartford
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 125
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Dadson 18
Eliza Dadson 13
Jane Dadson 12
Elizabeth Jarrett 29


Reg

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Aug 2007 16:22

1891 census

Name: Eliza A Dadson
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Alfred T
Gender: Female
Where born: Swanscombe, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Swanscombe
Ecclesiastical parish: Swanscombe St Peter and St Paul
Town: Swanscombe
County/Island: Kent
Country: England


Registration district: Dartford
Sub-registration district: Dartford
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred R Dadson 8
Alfred T Dadson 36
Eliza A Dadson 3
Elizabeth A Dadson 10
Jane Dadson 1
Sarah J Dadson 9

Reg

Sheena

Sheena Report 31 Aug 2007 16:25

I don't have any middle names on the birth cert for Eliza, so i'm not 100% sure if she has one or not.

Thanks for all the info, never expected to get so much.

Sheena x

Sheena

Sheena Report 31 Aug 2007 16:34

Have asked my mum, and she said my nan was the youngest. Apparently she had older sister's...
Brenda
Dorothy
Daisy
Iris
Christine
Gwen (possibly Gwendaline - however you spell it)
and possibly an older brother Steven/Stephen.

Hope that helps in some way.

Sheena x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 31 Aug 2007 16:41

Sorry - I have to leave the computer for a while, but if your nan had that many older siblings then I would expect the second marriage of her parents to be fairly soon after the death of the first husband - so you would need to check marriages from 1916.

Kath. x

Ajwyorks

Ajwyorks Report 31 Aug 2007 16:45

Marriage

John W Gillham m Ansley

Dec qtr 1916 Dartford 2a 1318


Andy

Sheena

Sheena Report 31 Aug 2007 16:47

Who is Elizabeth Jarrett in the 1901 census?

And is it me, who is there no record of a mother in either census?

Sheena x

Julie

Julie Report 31 Aug 2007 16:49

Birth is right as Dartford covers Swanscombe

Ajwyorks

Ajwyorks Report 31 Aug 2007 16:50

There are the following births
GILLHAM Daisy L Dadson Dartford.2a 1067 4 1916
GILLHAM Gwendoline Dadson Dartford.2a 1414 2 1920

plus ones for Ansley

Elsie E Ansley
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's Maiden Name: Dadson
District: Dartford
County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 1241

Eric J Ansley
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Dadson
District: Dartford
County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 1179

Andy

Julie

Julie Report 31 Aug 2007 16:51

1st Husbands death

Deaths Dec 1915 (>99%)
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Ansley Charles H 48 Dartford 2a 775

Sheena

Sheena Report 31 Aug 2007 16:53

Wow, Andy that was fast.
I had tried searching for a marraige between Dadson and Gillham, and kept coming up blank! Now I know why, as she re-married possibly from her married name.

Kathleen, I'm not when these children were born, and from what marriage. Just these are names given to me, i'm not even sure of the accuracy of them.

Ajwyorks

Ajwyorks Report 31 Aug 2007 16:53

On 1881 census Alfred's wife is Eliza.

Death

Eliza Dadson
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 30
District: Dartford
County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 314

Andy

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Aug 2007 16:56

1901 census shows Eliza as 'sister' to head of household.....

Elizabeth Jarrett is a servant

To find the name of Eliza's mother, you probably need to look at 1881 census....free on two sites.

Reg

Sheena

Sheena Report 31 Aug 2007 22:37

Thank you all for your help today, you have made my birthday complete.
I have managed to trace another relative connected to Albert T Dadson through GR and have all the info I could possibly want!

Thank you so much for everything!

What a great bunch of people you are, I could hug each and every one of you. :)

Sheena x