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7 Jan 2008 15:05 |
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William Colmour and his family are in Pilton Barnstaple in 1851 census . Name wrongly transcribed William Colomore 35 ships carpenter b Framington ? wife Emma 31 son William 8 b Pilton daughter Elizabeth A 6 ? b Pilton
My line is son William and I know what happened to him but I can't find any more on his parents or sister .
I have tried every spelling I can think of
thanks
Kathy
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7 Jan 2008 15:11 |
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Kathy
How is it spelt on the 1851 cos i can't find it
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7 Jan 2008 15:11 |
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Purely for info..1851
Name: William Colamore Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Son Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Emma Gender: Male Where born: Pilton, Devon, England Civil Parish: Pilton County/Island: Devon Country: England Registration district: Barnstaple Sub-registration district: Ilfracombe ED, institution, or vessel: 7b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 63 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth A Colamore 6 Emma Colamore 31 b. Braunton William Colamore 35 William Colamore 8 Reg
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7 Jan 2008 15:12 |
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Is this them in the 1851
William Colamore Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Son Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Emma Gender: Male Where born: Pilton, Devon, England Civil Parish: Pilton County/Island: Devon Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Barnstaple Sub-registration district: Ilfracombe ED, institution, or vessel: 7b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 63 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth A Colamore 6 Emma Colamore 31 William Colamore 35 William Colamore 8
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Selena in South East London
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7 Jan 2008 15:13 |
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I'm not sure if this would be the right area?
Marriages Mar 1863 COLMOUR Elizabeth Ann Behanna Stoke D 5b 563 CUTCLIFFE John Edward Stoke D 5b 563 NETTING John Hannaford Stoke D 5b 563 PRINCE Isaac Albert Axminster 5b 563 WATTS Elizabeth Stoke D. 5b 563
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7 Jan 2008 15:18 |
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1861.........Ship's carpenter
Name: Wm Colmoure Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Fremington, Devon, England Civil Parish: St Andrew Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: Devon Country: England
Registration district: Plymouth Sub-registration district: St Andrew ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 300 Household Members: Name Age Mary Colmore 48 Wm Colmoure 42 Wm Hy Harvey 13 Reg
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7 Jan 2008 15:20 |
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And the marriage............
William Colmour 1858 Jul-Aug-Sep Barnstaple Devon Mary Harvey 1858 Jul-Aug-Sep Barnstaple Devon
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Selena in South East London
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7 Jan 2008 15:23 |
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Wonder if this is the sister's birth? gives two different spellings, just to confuse!
Births Sep 1844 Collinour Elizabeth Ann Behannah Barnstaple 10 40 Collmour Elizabeth Ann Behannah Barnstaple 10 40
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7 Jan 2008 15:27 |
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Wonder if this is Emma's death? Very close to his remarriage!
Deaths Mar 1858 Colmer Emma Tavistock 5b 262
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7 Jan 2008 15:29 |
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Could be William's birth?
Births Sep 1842 COLLEMORE William Barnstaple 10 30
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7 Jan 2008 15:31 |
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William's first marriage?
Marriages Sep 1841 Capern Mary Barnstaple 10 55 Collmour William Barnstaple 10 55 CUTLIF Emma Barnstaple 10 55 DARCH John Barnstaple 10 55 Parkin Richard Barnstaple 10 55 SMALDON Mary Barnstaple 10 55
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7 Jan 2008 16:15 |
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Selena and Reggie
You are both brilliant !!!! I had spent days trying to find them .In fact I gave up a few years ago and only decided to tackle some of my brick walls recently ! Pity they kept altering the surname but then it wouldn' be so much fun if it was too easy
Thanks again Kathy :-)
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7 Jan 2008 16:18 |
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Sorry Julie
I didn't mean to leave you out thanks for your input as well
Kathy :-)
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Selena in South East London
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7 Jan 2008 16:26 |
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Just noticed that it looks like:
William Collmour married Emma Cutliff 1841 Elizabeth Colmour married John Cutliffe 1863
Strange?
Selena
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7 Jan 2008 16:32 |
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Selena
That is strange .Might account for madness in the family !!!!
Kathy
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Julie
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7 Jan 2008 16:33 |
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That's ok Kathy..i didn't do anything lol....xx
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22 Jan 2008 15:14 |
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Hi I hope you don’t mind but I saw your thread and thought I would do some research at Barnstaple Records Office. As with your own findings, there have been numerous name spellings for this family but they have been quite easy to track.
Records are identified as Pilton Parish Records Fremington Parish Records
I have spelt each name as they are on the record/entry
This is what I have found:
Marriage
4th July 1841 WILLIAM COLLMOUR (shipwright) to EMMA CUTLIP or CUTLIF (servant)
I have since checked her on Ancestry and think she may be EMMA CUDLIP I found her on the 1841 census (need to check date of census against the marriage date) she was 20 years old then living in Stoke Dameral area, this is in S. Devon (Tamar area) but when checked the image her father was also a shipwright so this may be how she met WILLIAM.
Baptism
28th Feb 1842 WILLIAM COLLMOUR to William (shipwright) & Emma
14th Sept 1844 ELIZABETH ANN BEHEAMA to William & Emma
8th Aug 1849 JOHN to William & Emma
Burial
5th Nov 1852 EMMA COLMER age 32 (childbirth)
Marriage
12th Sept 1857 WILLIAM COLMOUR (shipwright) to MARY HARVEY (charwoman)
The census shows William senior as being born in Fremington (I think transcribed as Framington)
Baptism
28th May 1809 MARY COLMER to JOHN (blacksmith) & ANN
29th Dec 1816 WILLIAM COLMER to John/Ann
*12th Apr 1818 JOHN COLMER to John/Anne
2nd Jan 1820 LUCY COLMER to John/Ann
Marriage
** 8th Feb 1808 JOHN COLMORE to ANN BEHEANA (see William and Emma’s daughter Elizabeth)
Burial
!9TH July 1820 JOHN COLMORE age 34
* I found information for John whilst searching William.
Marriage
7th Jun 1840 JOHN COLLMOUR (shipwright) to SARAH TROUMP (lace maker)
Baptism
13th July 1845 SALLY COLMOUR to John/Sarah
baptism
** 15th Oct 1786 JOHN COLMER 1786 to William/Jane
I am afraid that I was then running out of time so these are further entries I found but was not able to cross check. I wlll give you the details and you can maybe work out which William is Johns father. If you would like me to try to find out further info please let me know and I will be happy to go back. I think Fremington records go back to 1602, as it is the next village to where I live it is quite interesting to follow local families. I see that John was a blacksmith I am sure there is Blacksmith Cottage there. When the weather gets better will have to stroll around the village
Birth
4th Dec 1760 WILLIAM COLMER (it appears from around this date they only put in fathers details ) father WILLIAM
I could not find marriage for him
Marriage
26th Jan 1758 WILLIAM H COLMER to JOAN SYMMONS
Burials
27th Jan 1864 DAVID COLMER
27th Nov 1768 WILLIAM COLMER
16th Aug 1772 MARY COLMER daughter of Jane
So I’m not sure if Joan and Jane are the same woman or if William born 1860 (more likely) married a Jane, but not in Fremington, might be worth checking IGI
Hope this helps although does not follow Williams sisters….maybe next time I’m in Barnstaple I’ll have a look!!!
Mandy
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22 Jan 2008 15:31 |
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Just seen Selenas marriage record for Elizabeth's wedding in Stoke Dameral...makes Emma Cudlip connection more likely
....mandy
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22 Jan 2008 18:56 |
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Amanda
You are a star !!!! What a lot of info you have found for me .I am in Scotland so it makes it difficult to do much english parish record searches. It will take me a while to digest all the above but a million thanks and if I can return the favour in scotland just let me know
Kathy
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30 May 2008 22:41 |
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Hi,
can anyone help with records regarding a Sarah COLMER
Born: abt 1832 St. Lukes, Middlesex, England Died: 1876 Lambeth, London, , England
daughter of Thomas COLMER & Ann ??? Born: abt 1801 Exeter, Devon, England Died: 1858 St Saviour, Southwark, Surrey, England
they also had another daughter Elizabeth b. 1829 and a son Henry b.1835
any infromation would be fantastic
many thanks
Liz Stone
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