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Gerald

Gerald Report 9 Jan 2008 02:43

I have failed to find William Benjamin Adlington on 1901 census.His wife Alice and baby daughter show in Newport Mon, but cant find him anywhere.He was born Mile End London in 1874 but I cant find him on the English census either.He married in Newport 1898 to Alice Holley and reappeared again in 1910 Newport in a second marriage after his first wife died. Can anyone please look for him on 1901 census he must be somewhere, Thankyou Gerald.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 9 Jan 2008 04:22

You know his parents' names? In 1881, there is this one born in Mile End with the wrong birthdate, and there are two with the right birthdate in different parts of London.


Name: William Adlington
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Anne
Gender: Male
Where born: Mile End, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Limehouse
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 4 Farrants Terr
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Stepney
Sub-registration district: Limehouse
ED, institution, or vessel: 25

Anne Adlington 32
Edgar Adlington 3
George Adlington
Sarah Adlington 63
Thomas Adlington 32
Thomas G. Adlington 8
William Adlington 4


Just wanting to know how he tends to look in censuses.

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 9 Jan 2008 04:26

I don't see him in 1881 or 1891 either. Where is he then?

Rose

Gerald

Gerald Report 9 Jan 2008 12:03

yes catherine Ihave found the others as well. Domistakes ever get made on census dates? Should it read 1844 not 1877 on Mile End.
His birth in BMD is1c 592 April May June 1874. Regards and thanks.

Ivy

Ivy Report 9 Jan 2008 13:13

Hi Gerald,

I think the process would have been as follows: enumerator leaves a census return with the householder. Householder completes the schedules. Enumerator returns to check it over, or fill it out if the householder is illiterate, and then transcribes the collected returns onto the sheets that were stored centrally and then microfilmed.

Sometimes the error is the enumerator unable to read the householder's writing (although he ought to have asked when reviewing the return) or there may be a transcription error when compiling the computer index (FindMyPast/Ancestry etc). Looking at the image here it is difficult to guess what might have happened if this is the person you are looking for. It is usual for the enumerator to list the head of the household, then the wife and the childre in age order. On the image, therefore, it states the parents, then Thomas, William, Edgar, George as ages 8,4,3, 9mo. It is clearly a 4 written for William's age (the year of birth is not stated on the returns). Perhaps the enumerator misread the 7 as a 4?

If he is not there in 1901, might he be in the Boer War? If so, he might have been called up again for WW1 service and have a pensioner record on Ancestry - or might you find him on passenger lists if in common with others at this time he may be exploring emigration?

All the best

June

June Report 9 Jan 2008 13:24

1901 wales
Name: Alice Adlington
Age in 1901: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Newport
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Newport (Monmouthshire)
Sub-registration district: Newport
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 160
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Adlington 22 married
Alice C Adlington 1


looks like wife and daughter

June x

Gerald

Gerald Report 9 Jan 2008 13:30

Thankyou Ivy, Iwill explore as you suggest.
regards Gerald

June

June Report 9 Jan 2008 13:31

Births Dec 1901 (>99%)
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Adlington William Benjamin Newport, M. 11a 206


looks like a son


June x

June

June Report 9 Jan 2008 13:35

IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0
British Isles
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William Benjamin Adlington
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: MAY 1874 , , England

Christening:
Death: FEB 1951

Burial:


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Parents:
Father: Thomas William Adlington
Mother: Ann Jane Adlington




June x

Gerald

Gerald Report 9 Jan 2008 14:45

THANKYOU,
Spot on, he died in 1951 supposedly in Canada.I REALLY APPRECIATE you solving the problem for me Icould never have been certain otherwise.
Best wishes Gerald


THANKYOU everyone else for your input.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 9 Jan 2008 15:40

Uh oh -- that record in the IGI is one of those "submitted" ones -- no documentation, and not to be relied on without some substantiation.

But Gerald -- if you had info suggesting he died in Canada, why not say so to start with?? I'm in Canada and have access to Cdn records at Ancestry. I would have checked immediately.

Has someone muddled the two Benjamins?

Because here's who we have in the 1911 Canadian census:


Name: William B Adlington
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 9
Birth Date: Sep 1901
Birthplace: England
Family Number: 127
Relation to Head of House: Nephew
Immigration Year: 1910
Tribal: English
Province: Ontario
District: Elgin East
District Number: 65
Sub-District: Bayham
Sub-District Number: 6
Place of Habitation: Bayham
Census Year: 1911
Page: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Percy Adlington 28
Alice A Adlington 29
Ella M Adlington 1
William B Adlington 9
Mary J Adlington 8
Frank L Edgerton 19


Percy born in England -- but no immigration year; Alice born in Ontario.

That's the William Benjamin born in 1901. Is that who the death record refers to?


Passengers to Canada from FindMyPast:


ADLINGTON W M 1900 Liverpool Canada Halifax
ADLINGTON W M 1904 Liverpool Canada Montreal
ADLINGTON W 18 M 1905 Liverpool Canada Halifax
>> ADLINGTON W 8 M 1910 Liverpool Canada Quebec
ADLINGTON W 5 M 1912 Liverpool Canada Montreal


The >> is WBA Jr. One of the others with unstated age could be WBA Sr.


JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 9 Jan 2008 16:04

In 1911:


Name: Percy Adlington
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Widowed
Age: 28
Birth Date: Sep 1882
Birthplace: England
Family Number: 127
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Alice A
Immigration Year: 1892

(I missed the immigration year when I first looked)


Name: Alice A Adlington
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Age: 29
Birth Date: May 1882
Birthplace: Ontario
Family Number: 127
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: Percy


His does say "W" and hers says "M" -- no indication that she is his wife on the original page.


Name: Mary J Adlington
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Age: 8
Birth Date: Dec 1902
Birthplace: England
Family Number: 127
Relation to Head of House: Niece
Immigration Year: 1910


It looks like Percy is William Sr.'s brother and Alice and her two children are living with him.


Mary's immigration:

ADLINGTON M 6 F 1910 Liverpool Canada Quebec


Who's this in 1901:


Name: Geo Adlington
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 19
Birth Date: 5 Jun 1881
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Labor
Immigration Year: 1882 - 1878 scratched out, illegible
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Religion: Church Of England
Occupation: Labror Farm
Province: Ontario
District: Elgin (East/Est)
District Number: 57
Sub-District: Bayham
Sub-District Number: B-3
Family Number: 37
Page: 5


http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/archivianet/home-children/001015-100.01-e.php

Home Children (1869-1930)
Immigration Records
Item Display


Name: ADLINGTON
Given Name: George R
Age: 10
Sex: M
Ship: Sardinian
Year of Arrival: 1891
Departure Port: Liverpool
Departure Date: 07 November 1891
Arrival Port: Portland, Maine
Arrival Date: 17 November 1891
Party: Dr. Barnardos
Destination: Toronto, Ontario
Comments: 40 boys for Dr. Barnardo in Toronto who entered Canada at Montreal from Portland, Maine.
Source: Public Record Office
Reference: BT27/64
Type of Record: Records of other organizations
Group of Children Traveling Together


Name: ADLINGTON
Given Name: P S
Age: 9
Sex: M
Ship: Sardinian
Year of Arrival: 1891
Departure Port: Liverpool
Departure Date: 07 November 1891
Arrival Port: Portland, Maine
Arrival Date: 17 November 1891
Party: Dr. Barnardos
Destination: Toronto, Ontario
Comments: 40 boys for Dr. Barnardo in Toronto who entered Canada at Montreal from Portland, Maine.
Source: Public Record Office
Reference: BT27/64
Type of Record: Records of other organizations
Group of Children Traveling Together


Percy and George came to Canada as Home Children.

WBA's children WBA JR. and Mary ended up in Canada with Percy, who seems to be WBA Sr.'s brother.


The Alice in the 1911 census, it seems:

Name: Alice Maud Adlington
[Alice Maud Marshall]
- name added by Ancestry based on father's name
Death Date: 24 Dec 1933
Death Location: Elgin
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Birth Location: Ont
Father: William Marshall
Mother: Rebecca Dickie


Name: Adlington
Death Date: 1 Mar 1931
Death Location: Elgin
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Birth Location: England

I checked the image -- it's:

Thomas George Adlington
length of residence in province: 25 years
father: Thomas Adlington
mother: Mary Adlington
informant: Stanley Adlington, son


Ella in 1911; niece? Hmm.

Name: Ella May Adlington
Date of Birth: 6 Dec 1909
Gender: Female
Birth County: Elgin
Father's Name: Percival Adlington
Mother's Name: Alice Marshall
Roll Number: VRBCAN1908_102543


Name: Percival Stanley Adlington
Date of Birth: 3 May 1903
Gender: Male
Birth County: Elgin
Father's Name: Thomas George Adlington
Mother's Name: Rosa Ann Moule
Roll Number: MS930_38

Name: Lena Addlington
Date of Birth: 11 Mar 1907
Gender: Female
Birth County: Elgin
Father's Name: Geo R Addlington
Mother's Name: Jennie Dennis
Roll Number: MS929_185

Name: William Earl Addlington
Date of Birth: 24 May 1904
Gender: Male
Birth County: Elgin
Father's Name: George R Addlington
Mother's Name: Jennie Dennis
Roll Number: MS929_167


This "Alice" name seems to be coincidence, since she is Alice Marshall and WBA Sr's wife was Alice Holley.

Who did WBA marry in 1910?

Sims. Adlington births 1901 and after:


David L Adlington 1919 Oct-Nov-Dec Sims Newport M
Frederick V Adlington 1918 Apr-May-Jun Sims Newport M
Norman G Adlington 1912 Oct-Nov-Dec Sims Newport M
Percival L Adlington 1911 Apr-May-Jun Newport M
Mary Jane Adlington 1903 Jan-Feb-Mar Newport M
William Benjamin Adlington 1901 Oct-Nov-Dec Newport M


So WBA Sr. was in England up to 1918 at least.


I'm going to leave you with all this raw data for the moment and let you do some sorting, and then you can tell me what else you might like checked!

Gerald

Gerald Report 9 Jan 2008 16:59

Thankyou for all the trouble you have taken it will take a while to mull over it all and see if I can find any connections. I was told he and his wife emigrated in 1930s but were they a bit old to do that then? Regards Gerald.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 9 Jan 2008 17:23

Re emigration in the 30s -- unfortunately, the FindMyPast records only go to 1930!

I should have mentioned the limitations of Cdn records, if you're not familiar.

Census -- to 1911.

Ontario:
births - to 1909
marriages - to 1924
deaths - to 1934

Very stringent privacy law.

There's only one marriage:

Name: Peter Adlington
Spouse Name: Jane Myers
Marriage Date: 15 Mar 1893
Marriage Place: Hamilton
Marriage County: Hamilton
Registration Number: 44660
Archives of Ontario Microfilm: 80
Source: Indexed by: Genealogical Research Library

but -- the originals, the scans and the transcriptions are all so horrific that one can never be sure there isn't something else.

I missed this death, though:

Name: Mary Jane Adlington
Death Date: 18 May 1915
Death Location: Elgin
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903
Birth Location: Newport Mon <<

Aha! The original record says:

Father: William B Adlington
Mother: Alice Holly

Good heavens -- cause of death: accidental shooting.


And, from the original image, the informant for this death:

Name: Alice Maud Adlington
[Alice Maud Marshall]

was Percy S. Adlington, husband.


Name: Mary Irene Adlington
Death Date: 12 May 1928
Death Location: Elgin
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1928
Birth Location: Bayham
-- father George Adlington, born England


These people are unquestionably all related. I grew up in Middlesex County, which adjoins Elgin County, and Bayham is so tiny I've never heard of it. Spent many a summer day at Port Stanley, 20 miles away -- I see now on Google maps. Take a look: Bayham is a point on a secondary highway; not even a crossroads. Can't get too close in on satellite view, but it's obviously farming country. Right near Tilsonburg -- immortalized in Stompin' Tom Connors' famous farmworker lyrics, "Tilsonburg, Tilsonburg, my back still hurts when I hear that word."



That was a dump of data alright, so let me know when you've mulled!

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 9 Jan 2008 17:27

Alice Holly Adlington's death, btw:


Name: Alice Adlington
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Year of Registration: 1909
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 29
District: Newport M
County: Glamorgan, Gwent, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 132


Coincides with emigration of children WBA Jr. and Mary Jane to Canada.


Name: Mary Jane Adlington
Year of Registration: 1903 (birth)
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Newport M
County: Glamorgan, Gwent, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 223


Can you tell us what WBA Sr's relationship to you is? Just curious.

Ivy

Ivy Report 9 Jan 2008 17:37

Hi Gerald and Kathryn,

I had understood that emigration was a one-way ticket away from the UK, but my mother-in-law recently told me that her family had travelled over to Canada and then again to the US before deciding that they would stay in the UK after all. They were not a wealthy family, but he had a reasonable job as a looms overseer.

It seems that Mary Jane and William Jr went over together with a spinster aunt (J Adlington age 54) on the April 1910 sailing, about the time that William snr was remarrying in Newport. Was this because Percy invited them over?

All the best

[ed: Kathryn, just seen your comment - it all fits well!]

Ivy

Ivy Report 9 Jan 2008 17:47

I wonder what happened to Alice jnr?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Sep 1899 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Adlington Alice Constance Newport M. 11a 191

Ivy

Ivy Report 9 Jan 2008 17:49

Ms Sims is Rose:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marriages Sep 1910
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Adlington William B Newport M 11a 479
Davies Rosina Newport M. 11a 479
Hutchings William E Newport M. 11a 479
Sims Rose [H_] Newport M 11a 479

and there is a sailing in 1930 with a Rose aged 44 with her five children.

But how does William get across without being counted? Is he crew?

Gerald

Gerald Report 9 Jan 2008 20:05

William B Adlington is my long time friends g g grandfather and I am trying to help him trace his family.You have found the family from the death of Mary Jane Adlington onwards (fancy being shot). The rest of it all fits,he was obviously given the wrong dates for emigration. He will be thrilled to bits and we would both cannot thank you enough
Gerald

Gerald

Gerald Report 10 Jan 2008 12:26

Williams second marriage was to Rosina Davies, Newport 1910 11a 497. WBMjr must have returned back to Wales at some point because he had a son William who was born in Newport 09-06-1935 who was my friends father. Any thoughts?regards Gerald.