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Tryijng to find Galligan

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Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 16 Jan 2008 10:34

Hi can anyone help me My husbands name is Peter Gatward but his mother was with another man so his dads name is not Gatward it is Galligan i do not know what his first name is but he was with a lady called Joyce Blackman . Peter was born in 1955

webwiz

webwiz Report 16 Jan 2008 11:00

What does Peter's birth cert say?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Jan 2008 11:06

No birth reg'n in 1955 for a Peter Gatward.

There is one for an unnamed Gatward, with MMN Gatward.

Was his mother unmarried when she gave birth?

Reg

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 16 Jan 2008 11:10

Peters birth cert says Gatward but i have checked on the records and he is registered as Peter Galligan born in Thurrock Essex which i do know is correct

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Jan 2008 11:13

Isn't his father's name on the cert?

Reg

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 16 Jan 2008 11:47

No i am affraid it is not

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Jan 2008 12:08

Have you got a 'Full' birth cert? Or a 'Short' version?

What details does the cert give about his mother?

Reg

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Jan 2008 12:13

Have you considered applying for the birth cert under the name Galligan?

I see the MMN is listed as Blackman..........and there is a second initial..... 'H'......... for Peter........

BUT....you said Blackman was the name of the woman with whom Mr Galligan was living..........

Reg

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 16 Jan 2008 14:04

Only a short version of th birth cert does not say anything about his mother but i do know his mothers maiden name is Blackman

webwiz

webwiz Report 16 Jan 2008 14:19

A birth certificate is just a certified copy of an entry in the register so in theory they cannot be different. Either a mistake was made in the registry office when the copy was produced or the certificate that you have is actually not Peter's at all. What makes you think it is ie where did it come from?

Either way I suggest that you order a fresh long form which may clear things up.

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 16 Jan 2008 14:24

It has got the date 1969 on it so i am wondering if his mother had changed by deed pole

Tanya

Tanya Report 16 Jan 2008 14:55

changing your name by deed pole dosent change your birth cert. you just get a change of name deed.

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 16 Jan 2008 15:32

Can anyone tell me why everything he has document ways has got Peter Harry Gatward on it but on the birth records there is nothing for him the other thing i know is that Peters mother was married to a man called Henry Gatward

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Jan 2008 15:52

If only you had told us all this in the first place.........

When did his mother re-marry?

Was it when Peter was 12/13 years old?

If so, it's entirely likely that the cert he has is as a result of a 'mother's own' adoption by her and her second husband.........

Reg

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Jan 2008 15:53

Is this his mother's death?

Name: Joyce Gatward
Birth Date: 8 Feb 1930
Death Registration Month/Year: Jun 2001
Age at death (estimated): 71
Registration district: Thurrock
Inferred County: Essex
Register number: A38A
Entry Number: 31

Reg

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 16 Jan 2008 15:55

I am sorry i did not say that before but is there any way that i can find out who is real dad is i thank you so much for all your help

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Jan 2008 15:56

His mother's birth......

JFM 1930

BLACKMAN, Joyce, MMN Snelgrove
Orsett. 4a/1003

Reg

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 16 Jan 2008 15:56

Yes that is definately his mothers death

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Jan 2008 16:15

The way to find the name of Mr Galligan is to buy the original birth cert........you have the necessary details, I believe.

Or, plough through the marriage records on Ancestry, or findmypast

Reg

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Jan 2008 16:51

Any further thoughts, Elizabeth?