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hi im looking for my great grandfather horace warburton, born 1895. he married gladys dumelow. i have found a horace warburton living with a tom milner but i cannot find any record of him before this. please can anyone help. thanks

Hi Annette

Can you give more details, where was Horace born and do you have the 1901 census details with Tom Milner, then we can track his family back. What was his father called on the marriage certificate?

Gail.

okay found the 1901

Harce Warburton
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation: Nephew
Where born: Derby, Derbyshire,

Civil Parish: Derby
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Derbyshire

Beatrice May Milner 4
Susannah Milner 29
Tom Milner 30
Harce Warburton 6

All born Derby

Class: RG13; Piece: 3216; Folio: 161; Page: 18.

Gail

1891 for Tom...

There is a marriage with Susannah Peach on the same page.

Tom Milner
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Lodger
Where born: Derby, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: St Peter
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
Town: Derby
County/Island: Derbyshire

Registration district: Derby
Sub-registration district: Derby

Tom Milner 21
Eliza Peach 55
Hannah Peach 11
Harriett Peach 17
Susannah Peach 20

Class: RG12; Piece: 2728; Folio 65; Page 15; GSU roll: 6097838.

Gail.

A marriage

Frank Warburton
Year of Registration: 1887
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Derby
County: Derbyshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 674a

Millicent Milner on same page

Gail

1881

Millicent and Tom as children in 1881?

Tom Millner
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Tom
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Where born: Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Derby St Peter
County/Island: Derbyshire

Street address: No 8 Back Sitwell St

Mary Ann Millner 34
Millicent Millner 17
Tom Millner 37
Tom Millner 11

Class: RG11; Piece: 3395; Folio: 89; Page: 27; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341811.

Gail

hi gail, i seen the 1901 census and thats what has confussed me, i knew he came from derby but family stories say horace warburton was sent away to find work which doesnt match everything i have found that he was only 6. thank you ever so much for looking. annette

Annette

Do you have his marriage certificate to Gladys with his fathers name and his age on it?

Gail.

This looks like Millicents death which ....if Horace is hers....could explain why he is with his Aunt and Uncle on 1901

Millicent Warburton
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Year of Registration: 1899
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 34
District: Derby
County: Derbyshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 355

Gail

1891 for Millicent and Frank

Milicent Warburton
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Frank
Where born: Derby, Derbyshire,

Civil Parish: Litchurch
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Derbyshire

Tom Milner 45 Widower
Frank Warburton 28
Frank Warburton 5/12
Hy Jos Dove Warburton 2
Milicent Warburton 28

Class: RG12; Piece: 2734; Folio 73; Page 27; GSU roll: 6097844.

Gail

hiya, no i dont sorry, my grandfather died a couple of years ago and nobody seem to know much about his parents. my nan only has some memories and there are no photos or certificates. it really is a mystery. annette

1901

This child with relatives as well.

Joseph Harry Dove Warburton
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Nephew
Where born: Derby, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Derby St Alkmund
Ecclesiastical parish: Derby St Alkmund
County/Island: Derbyshire

Dorothy Agnes Warburton 7
Edith Flora Warburton 4
Helen Warburton 47
Helen Winifred Warburton 11
John Harry Warburton 39
Joseph Harry Dove Warburton 12
Margaruite Hilda Warburton 6

Class: RG13; Piece: 3215; Folio: 17; Page: 25.

Gail

Hi Annette

You really need to buy the marriage certificate as it will give you the information you need to work backwards accurately.

The above is all guesswork based on location etc.

Here is the reference you need.

Gladys M Dumelow
Year of Registration: 1918
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's Surname: Warburton.....
District: Derby
County: Derbyshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 1067


Gail.

hi gail, thank you ever so much for helping me. annette

Hi Annette

Did you see the marriage reference on my previous post.

Gail

Annette

Horace's Pension Record is on Ancestry

Gail

yes is did thanks, i will arrange to get this. annette

how do i look on ancestry (i am new to all this) thanks annette

Hi

Do you have a subscription? If you don't subscribe to Ancestry you won't be able to see it.

Gail.

Have pmd you Annette

hiya, no i havent subscribed to that site, i will go on this (ancestry.com?) and have a look. once again thank you ever so much for helping. annette