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Hey i know its a bit late only just managed to get on here, been in the records office today came home to find a certificate i had ordered. I have searched for this couple in 1881 census on the family search wesbite but no luc as yet. I am hoping can someone help me find them ?

Right so The husband is a John.J.Drumm and he was born c.1851 maybe in Ireland / Lpool he may be a bookeeper or a packer

The wife is Margaret Drumm nee Commack and she was born c.1852 no occupation that i know of. And i presume she was born in Liverpool but i am not compltely sure

John died in 1885, and i have searched to see if they had any children there are two possible ones in 1884 John Drumm or Kate Drumm. I am thinking it could be john because of the name to be honest.

Anyway if anyone could lookup the couple in 1881 i would really appreciate it they may be living with other Drumms as the address on the death certificate suggests that they were living with johns family.

Also if anyone could search for Margaret in 1891, i understand that she could of remarried but just want to check.

Thankyou

Any offers i would greatly appreciate !

Steph

What was the name of Margaret's father?

When and where did the marriage take place?

Reg

Margarets father was Edward Commack but when the couple were married in 1875 he was deceased.

The marriage took place on the 9th August 1875 at St Francis Xaviers Church, Liverpool

Steph

Is this the marriage registration?

Margaret Cammack 1875 Jul-Aug-Sep West Derby Lancashire

John Joseph Drumm 1875 Jul-Aug-Sep West Derby Lancashire

Reg

Margaret in 1871, I would think

Name: Margaret Cammack
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Everton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Timothy
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 202
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Cammack 56
Ann Cammack 17
Elizabeth Cammack 14
Margaret Cammack 19
Richard Cammack 20
Edward A Scarisbrick 6
Francis D Scarisbrick 9
James J Scarisbrick 20
Joseph H Scarisbrick 44

Reg

Yep thats the one i have

aaah cammack i spelt her name wrong

need any more info?

Steph

The child John born 1884 appears to have died in 1885 so would not be able to confirm parents on census records

John Drumm
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Year of Registration: 1885
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 1
District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 264 (click to see

yep reg, i think that is her
on the marriage cert there witnesses are richard and ann cammack

her siblings i presume

sorry but do you know the address of that 1871 census there?

Thankyou very much
Steph

This may well be Margaret

Name: Margaret Drumm
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Year of Registration: 1877
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 24
District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 245

Reg

Birth of a child, maybe?

Name: Margaret Drumm
Year of Registration: 1875
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 299


And death?

Name: Margaret Drumm
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Year of Registration: 1878
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 2
District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 274

Reg

Found that one too Reggie

1871 address was 133 Haigh Street

Reg

1861

Name: Margaret Cammack
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England


Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 236
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Cammack 46
Ann Cammack 6
Elizabeth Cammack 4
John Cammack 21
Margaret Cammack 8
Richard Cammack 10
Mary A Hanlen 25

Reg

Hi diane
Oh my god, that is so sad
just to think her husband died in the august and then her son
awww
i tried to look to see if she remarried but was unable to see any matches, you think she stayed in lpool until 1891?

Hi reg, im not sure that may not be her because on her husbands death cert in 1885 she was present at his death

sorry if i left out any info there

thankyou for taking the time to lookup though, many thanks

the drumm's are annoying can never find them on any census haha
steph

Hi Reg
is that 1861 the same address as 1871? and wow the father must have died quite young well presume about 1856 judging by the childrens birth

and how sad if that child margaret drunmm was theirs

i feel so sorry for the woman

Many THanks!
Steph

1861 was not the same address: different district

Reg

1851

Name: Ann Cammock
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Liverpool
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 1n
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 138
Household Members: Name Age
Agnes Cammock 15
Ann Cammock 36
John Cammock 11
Mary Cammock 7
Rickard Cammock 1
Julia Miller 48

Reg

AT LAST!!!!!!!

The elusive Edward

1841 census

Name: Agnes Cammock
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Liverpool
Hundred: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England


Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Thomas
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Agnes Cammock 5
Ann Cammock 25
Ed Cammock 30
John Cammock 1
John Cammock 25


Reg

From the IGI

EDWARD CAMMACK :


Spouse: ANN LEA
Marriage: 01 DEC 1834 Saint Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Reg

Possbly Edward's death.....there is an earlier one, but that would be too early in view of the births of Ann's younger children

Name: Edward Cammack
Year of Registration: 1859
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Liverpool (1837-1934)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 112

Reg