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George Edward Vaughan was my grandfather but I never new him. He was discharged from the Manchester Regiment on 23rd March 1919. He was a Warrant Officer 2nd Class.He never came back to his wife and children in Watford. Can anyone throw some light on what happened to him? His pension was paid to a 'Mrs Vaughan' but not my Grandmother! George was born in Ditcheat Somerset 1880/1881. His father was Hugh Vaughan born 1852 in Ditcheat (have not got his mother's name yet)He married my Grandmother Emily Florence Lumber on 5th Nov 1902 in Portsea, Hants.There children were: Bertie (died in an accident), Reginald(my father),Charlie, Freda, Chrissie, and Renie (who was disabled and died around age 20yrs).

Do you know his date of birth, or place, or parents?
Thanks

Added: what was your grandmother's name, and children?
Thanks

My grandfather was born in 1880 in Ditcheat, Somerset.
His father's name was Hugh Vaughan also born in Ditcheat.
Grandfather was married to Emily Florence Lumber in 1902.
Children were Bertie(died in infancy)
Reginald (my father)
John
Freda
Chrissie
Renie(disabled and died when approx.20yrs)

Just for background:
Marriages Dec 1902
Barry Alice Louisa Portsmouth 2b 1241
xxx Lumber Emily Florence Portsmouth 2b 1241
Tobin Martin John Portsmouth 2b 1241
xxx VAUGHAN George Edward Portsmouth 2b 1241

cannot see birth.

This is nearest
Births Mar 1881
VAUGHAN Edward James Shepton M. 5c 510
or
Births Sep 1880
Webb George Edward Shepton Mallet 5c 502
Have you got his birth certificate?
Thanks

do you know where he died - or when?
His death cert may shed some light - hopefully one of his ''nearest & dearest' registered his death

If his father was Hugh it appears he was Edward James. Hugh was single in 1881.

1891 England Census
about Hugh Vaughn
Name: Hugh Vaughn
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Kate Vaughn
Gender: Male
Where born: Ditcheat, Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Brighton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
Town: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex


Registration district: Brighton
Sub-registration district: St Peter
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Hugh Vaughn 36
Kate Vaughn 36
Frances Vaughn 13
Edward J Vaughn 10

The family in 1881

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William LUMBER Head M Male 62 Bruton, Somerset, England Retailer Of Beer Ale Etc
Ann LUMBER Wife M Female 67 Lamyatt, Somerset, England
Kate VAUGHAN Visitor M Female 28 Ditcheat, Somerset, England
Frances VAUGHAN Visitor U Female 3 London, Middlesex, England
Edward VAUGHAN Visitor U Male 2 m Ditcheat, Somerset, England

Still doesn't help in finding details for him later in life.


Christine

Is this your father's birth?

Births Sep 1907 Vaughan Guy Reginald Portsmouth 2b 407


Tracey x

PM'ing Alan some info from George's WW1 service records.


Dee x

1881 where it says hugh Vaughan unmarried is incorrect i think.
Here is the marriage to Kate who is with her parents 1881

Hugh Vaughan A/M/J 1877 St Saviours Southwark London
1d 81 to Christiana Lumber .

1871 Christian Lumber 1854 parents William Lumber 1818 and Ann 1815,the people she is with as Kate on 1881 census with daughter Francs 1877/8 and Edward 1881.

1901 in Portsomuth
Hugh Vaughan a widow with daughter frances 1778 now married to David Brown born 1861 Scotland.
Christiana Vaughan died 1895 age 41 in steyning Sussex.

Maryb

I have his marriage Certificate but not Birth Certificate. I have bought and am waiting for his father Hugh's Birth Certificate.
I don't know were he ended his days so I have not traced a Death Certificate. I believe that just after 1st World War there were a lot of bigamous marriages, so I'm thinking he left the army in 1919 and maybe started another family but where I do not know. I know he served in the Grenadier Guards as a boy soldier and signed on as a groom then went to the Boar War. He came back and resumed the trade both he and his father had, namely Dairyman & Journeyman.He then was called up by the Guards at outbreak of World War One and he rose to CSM rank, and in Nov 1915 the Secretary of State gave him a written order (I have a copy) to join the Manchester Regiment. his CSM became Warrant Officer 2nd Class and he served to the end of war. (The Manchester Regiment has a forum which has helped me immensely, but after discharge they have no more records.

So is this him and then he changed his name??

Edward james Vaughan J/F/M 1881 Shepton mallet Somerset 5c 510.

1881 he is with mum Kate as Edward J Vaughan.

I wonder why he changed his name,or I have I got something wrong here.

Maryb

On his WW1 service papers he was 32yrs and 212 days old... this was 23rd Aug 1914...... I roughly calculated a DOB of 23rd Jan 1881



Dee x

On his war records it says he was convicted of Bygamy in 1918 and was in prison for one month in october 1918 and his ranks reduced.

He was home between 24/2/1917 - 26/3/1919 so he get married in between and who to.Unless he married abroad.

Wonder what happened to that wife then.

From 1911 being a milk factory manager to becoming a Tailor in 1914.

Maryb

Father was definately known as Edward... Maybe he didn't like James.??

1911 RG14PN14447 RG78PN873 RD310 SD3 ED10 SN209
Reg. District: Wincanton Sub District: Wincanton
Address: South Street Wincanton County: Somersetshire
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VAUGHAM, Edward Head Married M 30 1881 Milk Factory Manager Alhampton Somerset
VAUGHAM, Emily Wife Married 8 years F 33 1878 Alhampton Somerset
VAUGHAM, Christina Daughter F 7 1904 Portsmouth Hampshire
VAUGHAM, Albert Son M 5 1906 Portsmouth Hampshire
VAUGHAM, Reginald Son M 1 1910 Wincanton Somerset


Tracey x