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I have the marriage cert of my gr grandparents, George Welland and Margaret Monaghan, married Dec 24 1876, both aged 20, married St James Westminster. George was born 1856 in Plymouth. On the marriage certificate his father is also George Welland proffession Sailor. Can anyone help me with information on George Welland (father) that is all the information I have on him. I do not know his birth or wifes name,

Maria

It might be easier to start by finding George's birth/baptism in 1856, which would name both parents, and cross-check with the 1861 census.

Ivy, how do I do that,
Maria

marriageName: Margaret Monaghan
Year of Registration: 1876
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Westminster (1870-1913)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 887 (click to see others on

The only birth I can find for a Welland in Plymouth 1855-1856 is for an Andrew.

No George Welland b 1855/6 Devon on the 1861 census

1881 for ref........

Name: Mary Ann Slater
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Step Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: Poplar, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Andrew
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 30 Mount Pleasant

Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Holborn
Sub registration district: St Andrew Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Ann Slater 5
George Welland 23
George Welland 3
Margaret Welland 24


Birth reg'n wasn't compulsory until 1875.........so you may not find anything!

Hi Maria,

Have a look on Free BMD for the birth registration, and on the IGI (put familysearch into Google, the IGI is an American free site) for a baptism.

If you have either Ancestry or FindMy Past, you can search the 1861 census.

(Just going out, will check back)

[ - or perhaps not available per the above replies from Potty and Reggie! ]

Who were the witnesses when he married?

Was his father by chance 'deceased'?

Re Reggie's posting of the 1881, there is an interesting family in the 1861:

George Stater
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Elizth - Head, married
Gender: Male
Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England

Civil Parish: St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Plymouth
Sub registration district: St Andrew
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 74
Household Members: Name Age
William Salter 17
Elizth Slater 26
George Stater 3
William Welland 6

Reggie the witnesses were George Wilsey and June Wilsey

1891 - Mary Ann is now a Welland (and changed her sex!):
Mary A Walland
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Stepson
Mother's Name: Mayaret
Where born: Whitechapel, London, England

Civil Parish: Clerkenwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Marks
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Holborn
Sub registration district: Goswell Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Walland 3
George Walland 33
George Walland 13
Mary A Walland 15
Mayaret Walland 34

Potty, this is interesting, as one of the censes I looked at there was a step sister Mary Ann Slater.

A marriage to tie in with the children's surnames in 1861:

Marriages Dec 1859 (>99%)

Crocker Amy Plymouth 5b 485
Ecclestone Thomas Plymouth 5b 485
>>>>>Slater George Plymouth 5b 485
>>>>>Welland Elizabeth Plymouth 5b 485

George WELLAND Head M Male 23 Plymouth Jewel Case Maker (LRI)
Margaret WELLAND Wife M Female 24 Ireland
Mary Ann SLATER Step Sister Female 5 Poplar, Middlesex, England Scholar
George WELLAND Son Male 3 St Lukes, Middlesex, England Scholar

1881 census

Ivy, have checked free bmd and igi, sadly no matches, thanks for helping
Maria

Thanks to everybody that has helped me

regards, Maria

Hi Maria,

I'm sorry there is no birth registration or baptism to be found on those sites. However, the others look to have found you the mother, Elizabeth Welland, so you could track her family forwards and see whether any other clues are available (for instance in baptism registers not yet on the IGI?)

All the best

Hi Brian

Have you searched the Genes Site for people researching WELLAND?
I think that you will be able to find at least one member researching Devon WELLAND's.
My own search has found several fellow members with surname interests in common with mine and we have been able to pool our information to mutual benefit.

Regards

Roger

Hi Brian

Have you searched the Genes Site for people researching WELLAND?
I think that you will be able to find at least one member researching Devon WELLAND's.
My own search has found several fellow members with surname interests in common with mine and we have been able to pool our information to mutual benefit.

Regards

Roger