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could there be some one out there just who may be able to HELP

im near the last part of the puzzle at tracing my tree but i need a person who has some knowledge about irish records.

could this person be you
hear,s the story so far

william fitzpatrick
married a honora fleming
when i do not know

these to had a son born 1806
from wicklow ireland

his name was danial fitzpatrick i can move forward
from daniel.

if by chance someone can help me .please reply to my message

thank you ever so much.
SORRY ABOUT THAT.
i have a bit more info on a william fitzpatrick.and i was wondering if this could be him .but i need to be able to have it confirmed.for this william also came from out of lackelly co.limerick.and was buried there aswell

this william dob 1808
death1884 ballingarry glenbrohane par.ireland

i was thinking that this might be my william and that there was a mistake in the dob
i just do not know
thank you
sue

im looking for a ELISHA FITZPATRICK born 1872 from hartley nsw aust near lithgow.died 1916
what i need to know if she got married .and to whom. and if there were any children.
glad of any help i get. thank you kindly

Reg. Number.. Last Name.. Given Name.. Father's Given Name.. Mother's Given Name.. District
9835/1916.. FITZPATRICK.. ALICIA.. FRANK .. MARIA .. LITHGOW

As her death is registered as Fitzpatrick, it is doubtful that she married.
But... if you buy the certificate you will now for sure.

Is this the family that you are searching info. on ?
& the women that you wish to trace?

Reg. Number .. Last Name .. Given Name .. Father's Given Name .. Mother's Given Name .. District
4625/1862 .. FITZPATRICK .. WILLIAM .. FRANCIS .. MARIA .. BATHURST
5337/1863 .. FITZPATRICK .. DANIEL .. FRANK .. MARIA .. BATHURST
5520/1866 .. FITZPATRICK .. FRANCIS P .. FRANCIS .. MARIA .. BATHURST
10207/1868 .. FITZPATRICK .. THOMAS .. FRANCIS .. MARIA .. HARTLEY
>>>> 10890/1870 .. FITZPATRICK .. MARIA .. FRANCIS .. MARIA .. HARTLEY
>>>> 11098/1872.. FITZPATRICK .. MARGARET .. FRANCIS .. MARIA .. HARTLEY
>>>> 12157/1874.. FITZPATRICK .. ELIZABETH ELLEN .. FRANCIS .. MARIA .. HARTLEY
>>>> 12837/1876 .. FITZPATRICK .. ELISHA .. FRANCIS .. MARIA .. HARTLEY
>>>> 13303/1877 .. FITZPATRICK .. CATHERINE .. FRANCIS .. MARIA .. HARTLEY
15093/1879 .. FITZPATRICK .. FRANCIS .. FRANCIS .. MARIA ..HARTLEY
>>>> 16171/1880 .. FITZPATRICK .. CLARA .. FRANCIS .. MARIA .. LITHGOW
>>>> 12157/1883 .. FITZPATRICK .. TERESA .. FRANCIS .. MARIA .. EAST MACQUARIE
>>>> 14058/1884 .. FITZPATRICK .. BRIDGET .. FRANCIS .. MARIA .. EAST MACQUARIE
22941/1886 .. FITZPATRICK .. ALFRED J .. FRANCIS .. MARIA ..LITHGOW
24114/1888 .. FITZPATRICK .. ERNEST .. FRANCIS .. MARIA .. LITHGOW

You would have to buy the marriage certificate to know for sure if the bride is a member of the family you are searching for. The certificate should have her fathers name on it, for confirmation.

Of the marriages found for "Bridget Fitzpatrick" this was the only death in the 1970's, & with correct parents (almost)

Reg.Number .. Last Name .. Given Name .. Father's Given Name .. Mother's Given Name
25575/1975 .... BEST .... BRIDGET ..... FRANCIS .... MARIAH

Reg. Number .. Groom's Surname .. & Given Name .. Bride's Last Name .. Bride's Given Name.. District
7065/1909 .. BEST .. ROY H .. FITZPATRICK .. BRIDGET .. SYDNEY

As the marriages is after 1907 any births are not accessable on-line

Marriage for Clara,..? & death ?

Reg. Number .. Groom's Surname .. Groom's Given Name .. Bride's Last Name at Time of Marriage .. Bride's Given Name .. District
3172/1898 .. MURRAY .. EDWARD P .. FITZPATRICK .. CLARA .. COONAMBLE

Reg. Number .. Last Name .. Given Name .. Father's Given Name .. Mother's Given Name .. District .
38642/1966 .. MURRAY .. CLARA .. FRANCIS .. MARIA .. NEWTOWN

Their Children....

Reg.Number .. Last Name .. Given Name(s) .. Father's Given Name(s) .. Mother's Given Name(s) .. District
21332/1900.. MURRAY .. ERNEST E .. EDWARD P .. CLARA .. COONAMBLE ..>>> died,..8640/1900
21348/1902 .. MURRAY .. VINCENT .. EDWARD P .. CLARA ..COONAMBLE ..>>> died... 13260/1908
12447/1905 .. MURRAY.. EDWARD A .. EDWARD P .. CLARA .. COONAMBLE
12656/1907 .. MURRAY .. HORACE F .. EDWARD P .. CLARA .. COONAMBLE

Of the marriages found for "Catherine Fitzpatrick" this was the only death with correct parents

Reg. Number .. Last Name .. Given Name .. Father's Given Name .. Mother's Given Name .. District
19844/1924 .. GRACEY .. CATHERINE .. FRANCIS .. MARIA .. LITHGOW

Reg. Number .. Groom's Surname .. Groom's Given Name .. Bride's Last Name at Time of Marriage .. Bride's Given Name .. District
7880/1897 .. GRACEY .. JOHN R .. FITZPATRICK .. CATHERINE .. LITHGOW

Children...?
Reg. Number .. Last Name .. Given Name(s) .. Father's Given Name(s) .. Mother's Given Name(s) .. District
13242/1898 .. GRACEY .. ARTHUR Ray .. JOHN R .. CATHERINE .. LITHGOW ..<<< died 42123/1971
31712/1899 .. GRACEY .. WALTER Herbert .. JOHN R CATHERINE .. LITHGOW ..<<< died 7487/1977
4269/1902 .. GRACEY .. MARY E .. JOHN R .. CATHERINE .. LITHGOW
13995/1905 .. GRACEY .. EVA A .. JOHN R .. CATHERINE .. KATOOMBA
13996/1905 .. GRACEY .. ALFRED F.. JOHN R .. CATHERINE .. KATOOMBA
25133/1907 .. GRACEY .. WILLIAM J .. JOHN R .. CATHERINE .. KATOOMBA

If you think that the info on Bridget BEST is your Bridget, then buy her death certificate.
It should list all her children.

If you do decide to get the certificate,
I have heard that it is cheaper to get a transcript through joy murrin (google her ).
However I do not know what info she can get for you, but you could ask.

Sue,

Have you bought ANY of the certificates that I have given you the registration details for ???

You need to buy certificates to know if we are following the correct family line. There is no point in me hunting up info. if I do not know, 100%, that the people that I am looking for are from your family.

Australia death certificate should also list all the children so are well worth getting.

Here are a few more possibilities BUT you will need to buy certificates to confirm that these people are 'your' people....

Marriage...
Reg.No./Year .. 5630/1893
Groom .. PARSONS SAMUEL
Bride .. FITZPATRICK MARIA
District .. OBERON

Death .. this certificate should list her children...
Reg.No./Year .. 14827/1931
Name .. PARSONS MARIA A
Father .. FRANCIS
Mother .. MARIA
District .. LITHGOW

Children....
32477/1894 PARSONS HENRY F District.. SUNNY CORNER Died .. 201871/1978
35254/1895 PARSONS MARY E District.. OBERON
26283/1897 PARSONS WILLIAM J(John) District.. SUNNY CORNER Died .. 27940/1946 , Hamilton
25424/1899 PARSONS THOMAS A District.. SUNNY CORNER
25425/1899 PARSONS JOSEPH S District.. SUNNY CORNER
17065/1901 PARSONS EMILY J District.. SUNNY CORNER
7391/1904 PARSONS SAMUEL J District.. SUNNY CORNER


Marriage....
Reg.No./Year .. 5883/1898
Groom .. GRIFFITHS GEORGE
Bride .. FITZPATRICK ELIZABETH E
District .. MOLONG

Death .. this certificate should list her children...
Reg.No./Year .. 11408/1948
Name .. GRIFFITHS ELIZABETH ELLEN
Father .. FRANCIS
Mother .. MARIA
District .. GRENFELL

Children ....
33151/1900 GRIFFITHS BLANCHE M District .. MOLONG
5326/1905 GRIFFITHS SAMUEL C District .. MOLONG
12176/1907 GRIFFITHS EDWARD N District .. CARGO

Possible death of another son..
Reg.No./Year .. 35076/1967
Name .. GRIFFITHS FRANCIS FREDERICK A
Father .. GEORGE
Mother .. ELIZABETH ELLEN
District .. WEST WYALONG

marriage ..
Reg.No./Year .. 1952/1911
Groom .. JENKINS SAMUEL H
Bride .. FITZPATRICK THERESA
District .. LITHGOW

Death .. this certificate should list her children...
Reg.No./Year .. 12810/1915
Name .. JENKINS THERESA
Father .. FRANCIS
Mother .. MARIA
District .. LITHGOW


I have now given you information on every daughter of Francis & Maria Fitzpatrick ... BUT ... You are going to have to buy some certificates to confirm that this info is about the correct people.
And, remember that the death certificates should also give you a list of the names and ages of all that persons children

Let me know what you find out after buying some certificates and I will see if I can find anything else.

Julie

nudge

Sue

Why are you nudging this, you need to answer Julie's questions. V

PM from Sue...

From Sue
hi julie
ill thank you again for that info on francis and maria
but they say to add to this thread AND i did also it was a added message on william fitzpatrick.that i wanted.i know that you have told me before about bdm .and i do intend to buy them.when i can afford to.thanks again and im sorry about the mix up
good luck
sue


I think that the following is what Sue is still looking for info about...
From her posting..................

I have a bit more info on a william fitzpatrick.and i was wondering if this could be him .but i need to be able to have it confirmed.for this william also came from out of lackelly co.limerick.and was buried there aswell

this william dob 1808
death1884 ballingarry glenbrohane par.ireland

i was thinking that this might be my william and that there was a mistake in the dob
i just do not know

Since you know that your William emigrated to Australia, how likely is it that he would be a William who died in Ireland?

Especially one whose DOB is later than his son's?

Your William had a son born 1806. He must have been born before 1790 himself. Living to 1884 would have been quite a feat at the time!

Do you have Daniel's death certificate?

2303/1859
FITZPATRICK DANIEL
father WILLIAM
mother HONORA
BATHURST


Australian death certificates sometimes contain weird and wonderful things. Perhaps that's where you have his birth info from, of course.

Your Alicia Fitzpatrick 1872 is the daughter of Frank and Maria -- Frank is Francis, son of Daniel 1806?

V18432500 162B/1843
FITZPATRICK FRANCIS
DANIEL
MARGARET

All births with those parents' names:

V1846894 63/1846 FITZPATRICK ELIZABETH
V18392155 162B/1839 FITZPATRICK THOMAS
V18412340 162B/1841 FITZPATRICK WILLIAM
V1853803 70/1853 FITZPATRICK MARGARET
V18432500 162B/1843 FITZPATRICK FRANCIS
4694/1857 FITZPATRICK CATHERINE
4747/1859 FITZPATRICK ANNE

The last two specify Bathurst district.

Just getting a handle on the connections with the people Julie has traced.


Edit - missed one first time around because of spelling of Margaret:

V18481220 65/1848 FITZPATRICK MARY A DANIEL MARGRET

hi
im affraid i do not know if william and honora came out to aust as i have no proof of that
i know that william had to be born before his son.
that is why i thought it could be the william that i discribed in the later mail with a mistake in the birth.
ps i found this info on a site.and thats all it had
thank for all the other info
sue

Ah - so it is most likely that Daniel travelled to Australia alone? No evidence of any siblings of his there, I guess.

hi evie
no not that i know of im guessing that he could have beena only child.oh there is a james fitzpatrick who happens to come from the very same place that william came from.i was wondering if maybe that could be his brother do you think
gee i just do not know .i have been looking for that long im just lost .if i could just get a slight hint on william or honora id be happy
thanks evie a heap
sue

Sorry, Sue, I just don't think there's much more to say!

You're looking for someone with a not uncommon name (William Fitzpatrick) born in Ireland before 1800 and very probably died in Ireland. There just quite simply appears to be nothing available on line that is going to provide the info you want, and nobody here at GR who has access to anywhere it could be found.

The only thing I can think of is to retain a genealogist who has access to original records in Co. Wicklow and can search for the William Fitzpatrick + Honora Fleming marriage, the baptism of Daniel and any other children, and the births of William & Honora. The info just is not going to be found by posting questions at a discussion board populated by amateurs, almost none of whom have any knowledge of Irish records, let alone access to records before and just after 1800!