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I have my gran and granddads marriage certificate but I cannot find them in any census. My gran was Elizabeth Mcinness DOB 1880 and married John Mcvey but I don't know which year, she then went on to marry my granddad Peter Cochrane ( she was a widow then ) in 1918 at Blysthwood Glasgow. As I have no BMD records for Scotland I can't search there. If anyone could give me some advice as I keep coming up against a brick wall.

Many thanks in advance
Sally

The 1911 Scottish census is only available on Scotlands People website which isn't a subs site . You have to purchase units to view info on Scotlands People

Both certs should be on there. The earlier marriage you should be able to view by using purchased units if it was before 1911

The later marriage youn have to order through the site

Edit not seeing the first marriage on there

From the search on Scotlands People


COCHRANE
PETER
MCVEY
ELIZABETH
1918
644/10 335
Blythswood

COCHRANE
PETER
MCINNES
ELIZABETH
1918
644/10 335
Blythswood

?

not seeing a marriage to a John

MCINNES
LIZZIE
MCVEY
JAMES
1899
560/ 51
Cathcart (Lanark)

Is this Elizabeth in 1891

Name: Elizabeth McInness
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's name: Hugh McInness
Mother's name: Ann McInness
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/8
Registration district: Milton
Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 56 Water St
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 70
Household schedule number: 9
LINE: 19
Roll: CSSCT1891_273
Household Members:
Name Age
Hugh McInness 45
Ann McInness 45
William McInness 17
Hugh McInness 14
George McInness 9
Elizabeth McInness 12
Mary McInness 5
Thomas McNaught 42

Without spending credits to look as 1911 census on SP, there's this couple living together:

MCVEY
ELIZABETH
1911
F
32
644/16 45/ 19
Govanhill
Lanark



MCVEY
JOHN
1911
M
30
644/16 45/ 19
Govanhill
Lanark

Just in case that 1891 family (posted by Shirley) is the correct one, here they are in 1901 - Elizabeth has left home.

I can't see her as either McInnes or McVey (or alternative spellings) in 1901.:


Ann Mcinnes
in the 1901 Scotland Census
Name: Ann Mcinnes
Age: 58
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Hugh Mcinnes
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 644/6
Registration district: St Rollox
Civil Parish: Glasgow Port Dundas
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 65 Bishop St
ED: 49
Household schedule number: 54
LINE: 9
Roll: CSSCT1901_288
Household Members:
Name Age
Hugh Mcinnes 60
Ann Mcinnes 58
George Mcinnes 18
Mary Mcinnes 15
David Fraser 26

As a very long shot for John in 1901, there's this man in married quarters , age matching 1911 census above:

John Mcvey
in the 1901 Scotland Census
Name: John Mcvey
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relationship: Pvte
Gender: Male
Where born: Barony, Lanark
Registration Number: 490
Registration district: Stirling
Civil Parish: Stirling
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Kings Stables, Stirling
Occupation: Private, Army
ED: Military Married Quarters
Household schedule number: 1
LINE: 15
Roll: CSSCT1901_165


Four John McVeys died in WW1, per CWGC .

Lizzie in 1901 with Mother, brother and a daughter

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Cherry Place, Cathcart, Renfrewshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Jane McInnes Head Widow Female 48 1853 Washerwoman Cathcart, Renfrewshire, Scotland
James McInnes Son Single Male 18 1883 Engineer's Labourer Leven, Dunbartonshire, Scotland
Lizzie McVey Daughter Married Female 21 1880 Formerly Laundress Cathcart, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Jane McVey Granddaughter - Female 0 1901 - Cathcart, Renfrewshire, Scotland

Commercial sites give transcripts of Scottish census 1841-1901. Originals of those and the whole of the 1911 are only available through Scotland's People.

SP - £7.50 for 30 credits. Free to search. 6 credits to look at originals. 6 credits to look at and download (with privacy restrictions ) birth certificates 100 years, marriage 75 years and death 50 years.

Thank you so much everybody for all your help.

Kind Regards

Sally

I do know that Elizabeth's parents were John McInnes and Jeanie ( nee McMillan ) and Peter's parents were John Cochrane and Helen ( nee Upton ).

If anyone has any information on these please.

Many thanks again in advance.

Sally

Ok - so the 1891 and 1901 with parents Ann & Hugh are the wrong ones.

Going by 1901 for Lizzie with mother Jean, posted above by GreyGhost, this is Elizabeth in 1891:




Elizabeth McInnes
in the 1891 Scotland Census
Name: Elizabeth McInnes
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Mother's name: Jeanie McInnes
Gender: Female
Where born: Cathcart, Renfrewshire
Registration Number: 560
Registration district: Cathcart
Civil Parish: Cathcart
County: Renfrewshire
Address: Campbells Land
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 4
Household schedule number: 74
LINE: 12
Roll: CSSCT1891_177
Household Members:
Name Age
Jeanie McInnes 38
Marion McInnes 13
Elizabeth McInnes 11
James McInnes 8
William McInnes 3
Andw McCulloch 20

And 1881:



Elizabeth McInnes
in the 1881 Scotland Census
Name: Elizabeth McInnes
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relationship: Daughter
Father's name: John McInnes
Mother's name: Jane McInnes
Gender: Female
Where born: Ballagan, Dumbartonshire
Registration Number: 493
Registration district: Bonhill
Civil Parish: Bonhill
County: Dumbartonshire
Address: Clement'S Land
ED: 16
Household schedule number: 41
LINE: 4
Roll: cssct1881_142
Household Members:
Name Age
John McInnes 33 - block printer
Jane McInnes 28
Marion McInnes 3
Elizabeth McInnes 1
Annie McInnes 1 Mo
Daniel McInnes 22

John in 1871:



John McInnes
in the 1871 Scotland Census
Name: John McInnes
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relationship: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 560
Registration district: Cathcart
Civil Parish: Cathcart
County: Renfrewshire
Address: Eaglesham Road
Occupation: Block Pinter
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 22
LINE: 3
Roll: CSSCT1871_96
Household Members:
Name Age
John Rodgers 25
Elizabeth Rodgers 27
Rosanna Rodgers 4
James Rodgers 2
John McInnes 23
Hugh Boyde 17
James Boyde 15
Elizabeth Boyde 20



1861 ???

John Mcinnes
in the 1861 Scotland Census
Name: John Mcinnes
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relationship: Son
Father's name: Jas Mcinnes
Mother's name: Eliz Braidwood
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark
Registration Number: 560
Registration district: Cathcart
Civil Parish: Cathcart
County: Renfrewshire
Address: Netherlee
Occupation: Lab In Printfield
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 18
LINE: 3
Roll: CSSCT1861_75
Household Members:
Name Age
Jas Mcinnes 50
Eliz Braidwood 43
Hugh Mcinnes 14
John Mcinnes 12
James Mcinnes 10
Cathrine Mcinnes 9
Alexr Mcinnes 6
Daniel Mcinnes 3
Michael Mccallum 44



and 1851:


John Mcinnes
in the 1851 Scotland Census
Name: John Mcinnes
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relationship: Son
Father: James Mcinnes
Mother: Elizabeth Mcinnes
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Parish Number: 622
Civil Parish: Calton
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 220 Dalmarnock Road
ED: 8E
Page: 3
Household schedule number: 10
LINE: 14
Roll: CSSCT1851_147
Household Members:
Name Age
James Mcinnes 40
Elizabeth Mcinnes 34
Hugh Mcinnes 4
John Mcinnes 3
James Mcinnes 1
John Braidwood 69

Elizabeth's parents' marriage (a few credits on SP will let you see and print the image of the original document):

MCINNES
JOHN
MCMILLAN
JANE
1877
560/ 19
Cathcart (Lanark)

John's parents' marriage:

MCINNES
JAMES
ELIZABETH BRAIDWOOD/FR5131 (FR5131)
15/03/1846
622/
190 25
Barony

This death is also indexed with surnames McVey and McInnes

COCHRANE
ELIZABETH
72
1952
643/ 58
East Kilbride

Oh my thank you all so very much you have been so helpful.

Kind Regards

Sally

Not finding a marriage for John Cochrane and Helen Upton?

When was Peter born, please? And where?

Did you find his parents' names on his marriage cert?