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I have not been able to find any birth records for Louisa Morris
I have been able to get a copy of her marriage certificate through researching and it has the following information
Married to James Bullock
April 1917. Both aged 18
Married in Salford, Lancashire
Her fathers name is Reuben Morris, it says deceased on the certificate.
They had 5 children 4 boys and 1 girl. Know this from later census records
If anyone can help, I would be grateful
.

Have you found them on the 1939 register

What about this one

Louisa Morris
Registration Year: 1898
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Chorlton
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 773

Mmn gavin

Strangely

Jun 1905
GAVIN Mary Ellen Salford 8d 223
Morris Reuben Salford 8d 223

Tied up

Louisa Morris
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 28 Apr 1898
Baptism Place: Manchester Gorton, Lancashire, England
Father: Reuben Morris
Mother: Mary
FHL Film Number: 2113170
Reference ID: 149

1939 register

James Bullock
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 5 Jul 1898
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 24 Rose Lands Av
Residence Place: Sale, Cheshire, England
Occupation: Wood Joiner
Schedule Number: 243
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: LFTA
Registration district: 445/3
Inferred Spouse: Rose Bullock
Inferred Children: Ronald Bullock
Cyril Bullock
Rose N B Bullock
Household Members:
Name
Ronald Bullock born 26.12.1934
James Bullock
Rose Bullock noted as Louisa on census page born 23.4.1898
Cyril Bullock born 4.9.1919
Rose N B Bullock born 23.1.1921

Baptism: 28 Apr 1898 St James, Gorton, Lancashire, England
Louisa Morris - [Child] of Reuben Morris & Mary
Born: 23 Apr 1898
Abode: 61, Booth St.
Occupation: Labourer
Notes: P.
Baptised by: J. Edward Mercer
Register: Baptisms 1892 - 1901, Page 149, Entry 1190
Source: LDS Film 2113170

England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 No Image
Text-only collection
Name: Cyril Bullock
Death Age: 82
Birth Date: 4 Sep 1919
Registration Date: Oct 2001
Registration district: Trafford
Inferred County: Greater Manchester
Register Number: B53A
District and Subdistrict: 0151B
Entry Number: 8

James Bullock
Death Age: 54
Birth Date: abt 1899
Registration Date: Apr 1953
[May 1953]
[Jun 1953]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Bucklow
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 10a
Page: 127

1939 Register

24 Roselands Avenue, Sale M.B., Cheshire, England

(5 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
James Bullock 05 Jul 1898 Male Wood Joiner Married 243 1
Louisa (Rose R N B) Bullock 23 Apr 1898 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 243 2
Cyril Bullock 04 Sep 1919 Male Baker And Confectionary Single 243 3
Rose N B Foster (Bullock) 23 Jan 1921 Female Machinist Tunies & Suits Single 243 4
Ronald Bullock 26 Dec 1934 Male At School Single 243 5
Ref: RG101/4064A/019/42 Letter Code: LFTA
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Someone made a mistake when completing the register and put Louisa down as Rose initially, which was altered to Louisa but further compounded by the addition of RNB by her name

Looks like they added some names to her
Seems to be the ones that her daughter rose had


Louise Rose N B Bullock
Death Age: 76
Birth Date: 1898
Registration Date: Apr 1974
[May 1974]
[Jun 1974]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Manchester
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 38
Page: 0758

There aren't any census' after 1911 available to the public - do you mean you found that there were 5 children using bmd records?

Births Sep 1918 (>99%)
Bullock James Morris Salford 8d 114

Births Dec 1919 (>99%)
Bullock Cyril Morris Salford 8d 173

Births Mar 1922 (>99%)
Bullock Rose N B Morris Salford 8d 205

Births Mar 1925 (>99%)
Bullock Stanley Morris Salford 8d 541

Births Mar 1935 (>99%)
Bullock Ronald Morris Bucklow 8a 258

Where did you look, June.?

Do you know about freebmd and Lancsbmd? Both free sites

Also the Lancs OPC site - again, free to all

Does the marriage certificate give Reuben's occupation - I know you have said he is shown as deceased, but often the occupation was recorded.

Also - who are the witnesses - may give a clue

siblings ?????
Baptism: 5 Feb 1882 St Mark, Gorton, Lancashire, England
Lillie Annie Morris - [Child] of Ruben Morris & Mary
Abode: 3, Albert Street
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: A. Connell Rector
Register: Baptisms 1870 - 1885, Page 222, Entry 1772
Source: LDS Film 2113173

Baptism: 8 Nov 1899 St James, Gorton, Lancashire, England
Rosie Morris - [Child] of Reuben Morris & Mary
Born: 6 May 1899
Abode: 6 Cross St
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: L. S. Merrefield
Register: Baptisms 1892 - 1901, Page 215, Entry 1715
Source: LDS Film 2113170

aptism: 13 Jun 1901 St Thomas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England
May Morris Morris - [Child] of Reuben Morris & Mary
Born: 25 May 1901
Abode: 6 Back Hankinson Court
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: H. Massiah
Register: Baptisms 1889 - 1904, Page 305, Entry 2435
Source: Manchester Central Library

Baptism: 13 Apr 1905 Cathedral Church of St John the Evangelist, Salford, Lancashire, England
Rosa Morris - [Child] of Reuben Morris & Mary (formerly Gavin)
Born: 17 May 1898
Abode: 96 Arlington Street
Godparents: Maggie Gavin
Notes: Sub cond.
Baptised by: Henry Walsh
Register: Baptisms 1901 - 1908, Page 302, Entry 6
Source: Original Register at LRO Preston

not sure about the last 2

?? Reuben's death

Deaths Dec 1907 (>99%)
MORRIS Reuben 56 Salford 8d 76

________________________
so could this be the family in 1891

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census

New Chapel Street, Pendleton, Salford, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Reuben Morris Head Married Male 43 1848 Collier Day Green, Cheshire, England
Harriet Morris Wife Married Female 39 1852 Spinner Pendleton, Lancashire, England
Mary E Morris Daughter Single Female 13 1878 Scholar Kent Green, Cheshire, England
Ann L Morris Daughter Single Female 11 1880 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire, England
Lilly A Morris Daughter Single Female 9 1882 Scholar Manchester Lancashire, England

???
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:

MORRIS, HANNAH LOUISA BROUGH
GRO Reference: 1879 D Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 676
??(ANN L on above census)

MORRIS, LILY ANNIE BROUGH BROUGH
GRO Reference: 1882 M Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 722

MORRIS, ROSIE mms GAVIN
GRO Reference: 1899 S Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 739

Maddie posted her baptism.

There was also a Louisa born the year before the one who married James Bullock:

MORRIS, LOUISA mms GAVIN
GRO Reference: 1897 M Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 754

~She died in infancy:

MORRIS, LOUISA 0
GRO Reference: 1898 J Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 443

1881
60, Gomm Street, Gorton, Chorlton, Lancashire, England
Learn about this record set
Reuben Morris Head Married Male 33 1848 Laborer Sandbach, Cheshire, England
Mary Morris Wife Married Female 34 1847 Laborers Wife Market Drayton, Shropshire, England
Lydia L Morris Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Scholar Kenton Green, Cheshire, England
Eliza L Morris Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Kenton Green, Cheshire, England
Mary L Morris Daughter Single Female 4 1877 Scholar Kenton Green, Cheshire, England
Hannah L Morris Daughter Single Female 1 1880 - Kenton Green, Cheshire, England --------------ann l

??

MORRIS, REUBEN -
GRO Reference: 1848 J Quarter in CONGLETON Volume 19 Page 95

Ruben Morris
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Ruben Morris
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Grandson
Mother's name: Hannah Morris
Gender: Male
Where born: Hassall, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Hassall
Ecclesiastical parish: Wheelock Christchurch
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration district: Congleton
Sub-registration district: Sandbach
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 25
Piece: 2168
Folio: 141
Page Number: 38
Household Members:
Name Age
William Morris 58
Hannah Morris 64
Luisa Morris 3 - grand-daughter
Hannah Morris 23 - unmarried, daughter
Ruben Morris 2 - grandson
Ann Morris 83 - mother


Reuben's sister's birth:

MORRIS, LOUISA -
GRO Reference: 1847 J Quarter in CONGLETON Volume 19 Page 88