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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Jun 2025 11:31

An ACTIVE member on Ancestry has a tree on that site.

Take out a free trial and try contacting him.

Shirley is not currently active on Ancestry

Have you made any attempt yet to contact the man on GR with HCR in his tree?

Any progress with ordering the cert as per your earlier post?

PatW

PatW Report 4 Jun 2025 15:47

As I said on the 16th May when I look at my tree I can see Harry with a purple 1 in the corner but then when I look it says 0 match. Tried another way by searching other members trees and get the same reply. I’ve done all sorts of permutations but still the same result.
Lots of Sylvia Beryl’s born about 1927 and I’m not sure what certificate to ask for and as ArgyllGran says it would be difficult so I’m putting it on hold for a while but thank you for trying to help.
Pat.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Jun 2025 16:25

As per previous advice, the cert you need is the MARRIAGE cert..........it will tell you her father's name (if she knew it)

As I said earlier.............IGNORE 'matches'. They are a waste of time.

Simply look in 'SEARCH ALL MEMBER TREES' which is really EASY

You cannot see your OWN tree in 'Search all Member Trees'

PatW

PatW Report 4 Jun 2025 16:57

I did search all members trees and it came up with a 0 even though I tried all permutations.
That was one of the first things I did.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Jun 2025 17:04

Well, I found someone other than you with the man in in his tree :-S :-S

“Harry Rogerson born 1916”………..

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Jun 2025 17:06

Enter his name - Harry Rogerson, and YOB 1916 - into Search All Member Trees, in the drop-down list under "Search" at top right of this page - and you'll find that someone called Paul has him in his tree.

Click on "Find out more" and send Paul a message explaining your interest.


But I thought you'd already found that?
On 16th May you wrote,
"I’ve found who I think is him but realise why I couldn’t before as I was putting his full name in not just Harry."

PatW

PatW Report 4 Jun 2025 19:16

I have written to Paul and waiting his reply. Hopefully.

PatW

PatW Report 10 Jun 2025 19:07

Paul has replied and given me access to his tree but he doesn’t know why he is connected to the Rogerson’s and a lot of the Rogerson/Wright connection especiallly the Wrights are totally different to what I have. They were my grandmothers relatives and I have lots of certificates, copies of the census, photographs etc. so I know he is wrong.
Pat.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Jun 2025 20:43

Other people's trees are never to be trusted.

Did you send for the 1992 marriage cert?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 10 Jun 2025 21:15

If you want to identify the second wife, you NEED either her death cert or the marriage cert. Preferably the marriage cert, as one assumes she knew her father’s name, whereas the person registering her death may not have known her maiden name.

Of course, the woman has no connection whatsoever to you, so It is hardly urgent ;-) ;-)

PatW

PatW Report 10 Jun 2025 23:03

As you say ErikaH it’s hardly urgent so I’ve put it on hold for the time being.
Thanks to all for their help.
Pat

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Jun 2025 00:50

It doesn't help, but
Sylvia (Taylor) had a son called Michael, presumably from her previous marriage.

https://sylviarogerson.muchloved.com/

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Jun 2025 11:48

Probable...............

Marriages Sep 1958 (>99%)
MOSS Sylvia B SMITH Doncaster 2b 814
SMITH George W MOSS Doncaster 2b 814


ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Jun 2025 12:09

Following ErikaH's suggestion:

MOSS, SYLVIA BERYL [ mmn Adams ]
GRO Reference: 1927 M Quarter in DONCASTER Volume 09C Page 1416


???
Marriages Dec 1963 (>99%)
SMITH SYLVIA B TAYLOR SUNDERLAND 1A 1965
TAYLOR LEONARD W SMITH SUNDERLAND 1A 1965


In 1962 Sylvia Beryl Smith is on the Richmond ER.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Jun 2025 13:10

Possible siblings:

Douglas Arthur Moss, born 1917, died 1918 - Doncaster.

Thomas Henry Adams Moss, 9/8/1923, Doncaster - 1997 Chester. In Merchant Navy in WW2.

Albert Moss, 1921 Doncaster.


Albert Moss
in the 1921 England Census
Name Albert Moss
Gender Male
Age 1 Month
Relation to Head Son
Orphanhood Both Parents Alive
Estimated Birth Year 1921
Birth Place Woodlands, Yorkshire, England
Residence Date 1921
Residence Street Address 29 Marion Avenue, Woodlands
Residence Place Adwick Le Street, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Inhabited Y
Ward Woodlands
Parliamentary Division West Riding of Yorkshire Pc, Doncaster Div.
Registration District Doncaster
Registration District Number 512
Sub registration district Campsall
Sub Registration District Number 2
Respondent Ernest Edward Moss
Enumeration District Name Adwick Le Street Ud
Enumeration District 3
Schedule 389
Schedule Type Code E
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Ernest Edward Moss 32 Years 4 Months Head
Georgina Moss 30 Wife
John Thomas Moss 10 Years 3 Months Son
Lily Moss 8 Years 1 Month Daughter
Ernest Moss 6 Years 9 Months Son
Albert Moss 1 Month Son


Parents:

Ernest Edward Moss
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name Ernest Edward Moss
Registration Year 1910 [1910]
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration District Doncaster
Inferred County Yorkshire West Riding
Volume 9c
Page 1124
Records on Page (Name)
Georgina Adams
Ernest Edward Moss


ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Jun 2025 13:16

Sylvia may be the closed record here:

Georgina Moss
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name Georgina Moss
Gender Female
Marital Status Married
Birth Date 16 May 1891
Residence Date 1939
Address 63 Rosslyn Crescent
Residence Place Bentley With Arksey, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Occupation Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number 1
Schedule Number 221
Sub Schedule Number 2
Enumeration District Kmgd
Borough Bentley With Arksey
Registration District A 512a (2)
Inferred Children
Leslie Moss
Household Members (Name) Gender Birth Year
Georgina Moss Female 1891
This record is officially closed.
Leslie Moss Male 1932



Leslie born 1932 Hemsworth, mmn Adams.

PatW

PatW Report 11 Jun 2025 21:14

Thank you for the new information. I’m going on holiday very soon so I will plough through it when I return.
Pat.