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Thomas's brother William:

William Scott
in the Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
Name: William Scott
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 26 Sep 1859
Birth Place: Leith,Midlothian,Scotland
Father: Thomas Scott
Mother: Elizabeth Albert
FHL Film Number: 6035516

Just pottering - you may already have all this, Val.


Birth of Sabina Albertha's father:

Thomas Albert Scott
in the Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
Name: Thomas Albert Scott
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 01 Jan 1858
Birth Place: Leith,Midlothian,Scotland
Father: Thomas Scott
Mother: Eliza Albert
FHL Film Number: 6035516


Thos Scott
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Thos Scott
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: 1858
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thos Scott
Mother's Name: Eliza Scott
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil Parish: Heston
Ecclesiastical parish: Heston St Leonard
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration District: Brentford
Sub-registration District: Isleworth
ED, institution, or vessel: Cavalry Barracks Hounslow
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 1
Piece: 774
Folio: 68
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Thos Scott 30 - London
Eliza Scott 24 - Ireland
Thos Scott 3
William Scott 1 - Scotland


Parents' marriage:

Area - DUBLIN (COI) , Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. MARK
Marriage of THOMAS SCOTT of [N/R[ and ELIZABETH ALBERT of [N/R[
on 13 December 1856
Husband Wife
Name THOMAS SCOTT ELIZABETH ALBERT
Husband Address - Parish ST MARK
Wife Address - Parish D-
Witness 1 WILLIAM JOHN POTTER (WITNESS FOR HUSBAND)
Witness 3 ANNE COLLUM (WITNESS FOR WIFE)

Val, back in 2006 you said,

"It appears she was not buried where she would have expected to be for personal reasons."

Do the personal reasons give any clue as to where she might have been buried?

Sabina Albertha's father died in 1916:

Thomas Albert Scott
in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995
Name: Thomas Albert Scott
Death Date: 13 Jan 1916
Death Place: Hampshire, England
Probate Date: 14 Feb 1916
Probate Registry: London, England

Scott, Thomas Albert, of 2 Paget Road, Alverstoke, Hampshire, died 13 January 1916.
Probate to Sabina Arnold Scott, widow.



Her mother in 1939, with married daughter Eileen Marie

Sabina A Scoth
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Sabina A Scoth
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Widow
Birth Date: 10 Jan 1866
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 33
Residence Place: Solihull, Warwickshire, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number: 38
Schedule Number: 140
Sub Schedule Number: 3
Enumeration District: QEKU
Borough: Solihull
Registration district: 392-1
Household Members Age
Arthur J Rodwell 61
Eileen M Rodwell 45
Sabina A Scoth 73


Eileen M Scott
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Eileen M Scott
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Brentford
Inferred County: Middlesex
Spouse: Rodwell
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 1189


Just wondeirng if Sabina Albertha might have been buried with her parents - but don't know where they were buried.

Can't see her mother's death definitively.

Sabina Arnold Fitzwater
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932
Name: Sabina Arnold Fitzwater
Marriage Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1866
Marriage Date: 9 Jan 1885
Marriage Place: St Philip and St James, Whitton, Richmond upon Thames, England
Father: William Fitzwater [ brick layer ]
Spouse: Thomas Albert Scott [ Corporal 11th Hussars ]
Register Type: Parish Register

Thomas's father: Thomas Scott, driver.



Sabina Albertha Scott
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Sabina Albertha Scott
Age in 1911: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: New Bridge, Kildare, Ireland
Civil Parish: Isleworth
Street Address: 126 St Stephens Road, Hounslow, Mx
Marital status: Single
Registration District Number: 128
Sub-registration District: Isleworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Piece: 6815
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Albert Scott 53
Sabina Arnold Scott 44
Eileen Marie Scott 16
Sabina Albertha Scott 14
Stella Gertrude Scott 6
Ann Sabina Fitzwater 81

The brother Tom Arnold Scott was already in the Navy in 1911:

Tom A Scott
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Tom A Scott
Age in 1911: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Birth Place: Cahir, Tifferary
Civil Parish: Misc Locations
Country: England
Marital status: Single
Registration District Number: 640
ED, institution, or vessel: Vessels
Piece: 34971

He was in the Marine Band,on board HMS "Dominion", in Glengariff Harbour, Ireland on the night of the census.

The address in 1939 is correct for the woman who married Percy Eldridge, but the DOB is a mistake.

The Hartlepool birth is also not the correct one.

1931:
Sabina Eldridge
in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Sabina Eldridge
Electoral Date: 1931
Street Address: 16 Auguste [ 16 St Helier's Avenue on image ]
Ward or Division/Constituency: Twickenham
County or Borough: Richmond upon Thames, England

Living with Percy Walter Eldridge and Tom Arnold Scott.


1937:
Sabina Eldridge
in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Sabina Eldridge
Gender: Female
Electoral Date: 1937
Street Address: 16 St Helier's Avenue
Ward or Division/Constituency: Hunslow West
County or Borough: Twickenham, England

Living with Percy Walter Eldridge and Sabina Scott.



The 1899 Hartlepool birth is not correct.

SCOTT, SABINA ANN mmn PROSSER
GRO Reference: 1898 M Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 152

Parents of that Sabina:

Marriages Sep 1889 (>99%)
PROSSER Mary Jane Hartlepool 10a 167
Scott Reuben Hartlepool 10a 167



The correct family -

Birth of Tom Arnold Scott who is with Sabina Eldridge in 1931:

Tom Arnold David Atkinson Scott
in the Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958
Name: Tom Arnold David Atkinson Scott
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1894
Registration District: Clogheen
Birth Country: Ireland
Volume: 4
Page: 499
FHL Film Number: 101065

Parents: Thomas Albert Scott, Cahir Barracks, and Sabina Arnold Scott, formerly Fitzwater.



Birth of Sabina Eldridge nee Scott:

Sabina Albertha Scott
in the Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958
Name: Sabina Albertha Scott
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1897
Registration District: Naas
Birth Country: Ireland
Volume: 2
Page: 811
FHL Film Number: 101066

DOB 13 Nov 1896 <<<<<<<<<<<
Parents: Thomas A Scott, Newbridge, Bandmaster with Royal Hussars,
and Sabina Scott, formerly Fitzwater.

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Births Mar 1898
SCOTT Sabina Ann Hartlepool 10a 152

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Marriages Dec 1930
Eldridge Percy W Scott Brentford 3a 510
Scott Sabina A Eldridge Brentford 3a 510

How couid she be born in 1900 when she is said to be 44 on the death reg

Sabina Eldridge
Death Age: 44
Birth Date: abt 1895
Registration Date: Oct 1939
[Nov 1939]
[Dec 1939]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 181


Who was she married to ?

Have you tried the parks and cemeteries dept of the local council giving details of her death and home address

It’s possibly too she may have been cremated but crematoriums are also council run so they should be able to tell you

No answer to your question, but just recording where she was in 1939

Name: Lebing Eldridge
[Sabina Eldridge]
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 30 Nov 1900
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 16 St Heliers Ave
Residence Place: Heston and Isleworth, Middlesex, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number: 29
Schedule Number: 76
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: BLBV
Borough: Heston and Isleworth
Registration district: 128/1

I found Ealing council (cemeteries) very helpful some years ago.
Have you tried sites like deceased on line - they have so many more records nowadays.

Some of my Lambeth relatives were buried in Nunhead cemetery.

Believe it or not still looking for her, shame as her son died a few weeks ago without knowing where she was.
No Coroners report, as paper was short during the war and it got re-used.

whats the 1 for Dave ???

With the war four months old it would not have made the front pages, but you should be able to find something. The Times gives only a passing reference. The library should be able to tell you where to find the coroner's report.

the inquest was held on the 7th december I have written to the Library to see if they have any newspaper article about it .

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do you mean you have found the case in the paper WOWEE thats great I have not got the full story it seems she put her son on the train and he asked for a comic she went and got it and tried to get on the moving train and slipped between the running board and the platform it must have been terrible for her little boy he was only about 8 at the time kissy kissy kissy Where can I find that report thanks

Got it. December 4th 1939. Without doubt there would have been a coroner's inquest, so that should be your task - to get hold of the report. As this would have been held within the vicinity of the place of death, you'll need to find out where it's held. According to the Times, she fell between the platform and the runningboard of a Waterloo to Portsmouth train.

It appears she was not buried where she would have expected to be for personal reasons.