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maureen

maureen Report 17 Oct 2015 11:30

Hi, I'm looking for descendants of Rachel 1860
Samuel 1863
Nathan 1865
Abraham 1867
Esther 1871
Ezekiel 1874

Any news will be welcomed, even if it the dates of their deaths. Thank you Maureen

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 17 Oct 2015 12:04

Hi Maureen - have you tried Searching all members trees? Top right under 'Search' ?

A location would be helpful and/or place of birth.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 17 Oct 2015 12:09

Is this relevant? If not, what records do you already have?

Name: Rebecca Bloomberg
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Lazara Bloomberg
Mother's name: Rachael Bloomberg
Gender: Female
Where born: London, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Philip
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 9
Piece: 3112
Folio: 19
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Lazara Bloomberg 33 - Germany, Clothes Dealer
Rachael Bloomberg 32 - Germany
Rebecca Bloomberg 11
Samuel Bloomberg 8 - 1863 London
Nathan Bloomberg 7 - 1864 Birmingham
Sanny Bloomberg 4 - (Fanny) 1867 Birmingham
Abraham Bloomberg 2 - 1869 Birmingham

Geoffrey has Lazarus in his tree.
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/messages/1355576/discover?rk=617310310

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 17 Oct 2015 12:17

Just searching for Ezekiel Bloomberg 1874 brings up what seems to the same family

in 1891

Name: Ezekiel Bloomberg
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relation: Son
Father's name: Lazarus Bloomberg
Mother's name: Rachael Bloomberg
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Lancaster St
Civil Parish: St Botolph Aldgate
Ecclesiastical parish: St Botolph
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: London City
Sub registration district: St Botolph
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 235
Folio: 79
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Lazarus Bloomberg 52 - Riga, Russia. Traveller in Kippers!?!
Rachael Bloomberg 54 - Conal? Poland
Abraham Bloomberg 22 - Tailor, Hall St Birmingham
Ester Bloomberg 20 - Tailoress, Lichfield St, Birmingham
Ezekiel Bloomberg 18 - Boot trade assistant, Lancaster St, Birmingham
Miriam Bloomberg 15 - Lancaster St, Birmingham

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 17 Oct 2015 12:26

Not getting anything for a Rachel, apart from London ER with Bloomberg as a married surname. eg

Name: Rachel Bloomberg
Year: 1920
County or Borough: Tower Hamlets
Ward or Division/Constituency: Shoreditch and Stepney
Street address: 15 Cressy Houses
Dependent of Abraham Bloomberg

You don't appear to have your family on a tree on here - it does help other people make contact with you. In this instance, its impossible for anyone to help find the correct family in census by checking your own entry.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 17 Oct 2015 12:35

Is this your ancestor' marriage?

Name: Rachel Bloomberg
Registration Year: 1887
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: London City
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 112

Married either Hyman Klenovich or Lewis Nemousky

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 17 Oct 2015 12:50

PM sent to Maureen advicing how she can return and add to the thread.

Before we go any further, we do need some sort of clarification

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 17 Oct 2015 12:56

Posting this while its on a screen - 1901 census

Name: Rebecca Matthews
[Rebecca Blomberg]
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: Emanuel Matthews
Father: Lazams Blomberg
Mother: Rachael Blomberg
Birth Place: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: St John of Jerusalem South Hackney
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: South-East Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 232
Folio: 54
Page Number: 24
Household schedule number: 173
Household Members:
Name Age
Emanuel Matthews 48 - Head and husband, naturalised Russian, Painter
Rebecca Matthews 39
Samuel Matthews 19
Percy Matthews 15
Abram Matthews 10
Gertrude Matthews 8
Rachael Blomberg 64 - mather in law
Lazams Blomberg 61 - father in law

Boarders
William Griggs 28
Grace Griggs 24
Grace Griggs 3
William Griggs 1

Proabably not best to follow forward in case its a waste of time.

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Oct 2015 13:16

Probably best for helpers to know that the Bloomberg link is from this marriage ( as per thread on husband ) though not directly related to this search

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1355558



Minnie ( Miriam) Abramovitz ( Nee Bloomberg) Minnie Abramontz ( mistrans on FMP 1911) Wife - Female Shop Keeper Of Tin And Enamel 31 1880 Birmingham Warwick Transcription

Maureen is looking for descendents of siblings to Minnie ( Miriam).

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 17 Oct 2015 13:52

So the census posted are probably correct. Still cant find earlier records for Rachel 1860

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Oct 2015 14:12

First name(s) Ezekiel
Last name Bloomberg
Birth year 1875
Birth date 19 Jan 1875
Event year 1880
School name Burton On Trent, Christ Church School(Infants)
Town Burton On Trent
County Staffordshire
Country England
Parent name(s) Lazarus & Rachael
Book type Admissions
Archive reference BD55_1_12
Folio / page no. -
Archive Staffordshire & Stoke on Trent Archives
Record set National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914
Category Education & work
Subcategory Schools & education
Collections from Great Britain

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Oct 2015 14:29

Possible death for Lazarus?

Deaths Dec 1915 (>99%)
Bloomberg Lazarus 75 Edmonton 3a 563

Found this thread re that death

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=732410.9

lol just realised it's a current thread and assume that's Brigid from here posting? Do remember to check that thread then also.

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Oct 2015 14:35

Re Nathan, from that thread , just to prevent duplicating

"Nathan called himself Francis Nathaniel Bloomberg and married Fanny Posner in Q1 1895 London City. They had a son named Henry Percy Bloomberg, b. 1896 in Stoke Newington.

Abraham (later known as Alfred) married Catherine 'Kate' Zwart in Q2 1892 London City. They had at least two children:

Harry Percy Bloomberg, b. 1892 Burton-on-Trent
Violet Stella or Stella Violet Bloomberg, b. 1905 Hackney

Samuel and Ezekiel are very elusive."

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 17 Oct 2015 15:02

It's a pity Maureen or Bridget (is Alisoun involved? ) hadn't posted the Rootschat URL. It would have saved at least on hour of blundering around in the dark.
Thank you RRose for finding it.

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Oct 2015 15:32

I was just googling for Lazarus DET, I noted the death was Edmonton and I was looking for some sites I'd used before for graves there.

I'm away for a couple of days so wanted to see if I could find something before I go lol.

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Oct 2015 15:37

Old message but interesting! Appears to be a relative....

"My Great Grandfather, Adolph Rich married Fanny Bloomberg at Hambro Synagogue on 15th August 1888."

http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Soc/soc.genealogy.jewish/2007-05/msg00458.html

and an earlier one from the same person

http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Soc/soc.genealogy.jewish/2006-08/msg00922.html

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Oct 2015 15:50

AND this one which has something interesting about Emanuel Abramovitz

http://soc.genealogy.jewish.narkive.com/OuaYtOqS/emanuel-abramovitz-artist

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 17 Oct 2015 15:56

As Brigid says on the Rootschat thread 'I write to the Granddaughter of Fanny', is it worth following through with the Adolph Rich/ Fanny Bloomberg line? Not until someone tells us who is still unaccounted for

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Oct 2015 16:08

Yes DET, really need Maureen to come back and say who is missing :-) My guess is that Ezekial may have changed his name.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 17 Oct 2015 16:20

Most if not all of them are absent after 1901 - considering the original thread on FA, the others may have changed their names as well.

Might they have emigrated under a new one? Something to consider