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My paternal grandfather was adopted out.
I've made it a personal mission to find the man and woman responsible,my ancestry tree is getting filled up and its looking bare on that side,my dad and his brothers and sisters arent ready to deal with it, my dad told me a name when he was drunk, mckillop.
my grandpa died in 2015, lived in colt avenue in coatbridge, a smallish town a few train stops away from Glasgow so i assume maybe the mckillops lived close or near to here or maybe the orphanage was? he was adopted by my grandmother Mary MacDonald and her husband whose first name i never got but his second name was Watson.
what i want is to find out the real story just so i am on top of the situation,i would feel indebted if the mckillop familys ancestors would message me an answer. im going to make a list of all the information that i probably forgot:
NAME:Thomas Watson
BIRTH:19 march 1933 location unknown
SEARCH RADIUS: coatbridge, Glasgow area
ADOPTED GRANDPARENTS: Mary MacDonald and Watson

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Helen Watson <3

Using Scotlands people and the search term McKillop Glasgow there is only one born 1933. But you would probably need to widen the area and also consider surname McKillops.

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/search-our-records

There's one McKillop born in Coatbridge in 1933, with middle name Thomas.

Is that the one you mean, Rambling?



Helen -
you would have to buy a copy of the birth cert for the Coatbridge child to check the actual date of birth - if you feel it's enough of a possibility to be worth the cost.
ScotlandsPeople only gives the year.
The birth cert would cost you £12, through the SP website.

My late father was adopted and technically the only one allowed access to their file is the adopted person.

I was successful in my search and it is fair to say that you have more information than I had when I begun my research.

ArgyllGran is correct if you wish to pursue your research then you will have buy a copy of his original birth certificate.

This birth certificate will give you the name of his mother(your Great Grandmother)

If you live in Scotland you can go to any local registry office and buy a copy birth,death or marriage certificate which you will be given then and there.
The cost is £15.00.

There were three women born between 1912 and 1913 in the Coatbridge Area who would be of child bearing age in 1933.

There is a possibility that one of them was the mother of your Grandfather.

If this is found to be correct then if you then bought a copy of this lady's birth certificate it would then give you the name of her parents.

A copy of the 1911 Census would then give you information if the lady had siblings

There would appear to be a large number of people living in the Coatbridge Area with the surname of McKillop.

Best of Luck

Dougie

Welcome to genes reunited, Helen.

Some suggested reading:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nv0/

The descendants of those particular McKillops are highly unlikely to see your post here, let alone reply - if they even know about what happened.

With the little information you have, the Coatbridge birth certificate seems to be the place to start.
If the birth date turns out to match your grandfather's, then you (with our help here on this thread, if you wish) can find out more about his background by the method described by Dougie.

If the birth date is not the same, then I'm afraid you're stumped unless you can trace his adoption.
See the link posted by Patchem.
More info here:
https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/research/guides/adoption-records

Good luck!

Doesn't his marriage cert give the names of his adopted parents

Simply from the area this looks a possible

Marriage
MCDONALD MARY ANN
Spouse WATSON
JOHN
1904
652/2 35
Coatbridge or Old Monkland
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Thank you to everyone who shows an interest in my thread,i have hired a professional to look into it but he hasn't come back with the results yet, this June will have been six months. :-\

the results came back
apparently the woman was Annie mckillop born 18 June 1901 at 2b jackson street in coatbridge, she was married to William Brady but theres something telling me that he wasn't the man who created my grandpa or maybe im just paranoid.

What result is that, Helen?

Is that from the Coatbridge 1933 birth cert?
If so, and the birth was registered as McKillop even though the mother was married to Brady, then the child was obviously not Mr Brady's child.

EDIT:
No, it can't be from the birth cert - that wouldn't give mother's DOB.
Do you mean that this is what the researcher found - maybe from adoption records ??




The McKillop/Brady marriage was in 1926.

MCKILLOP
ANNIE
BRADY
WILLIAM
1926
652/2 88
Coatbridge or Old Monkland

Have just checked - the 1933 Coatbridge McKillop birth is also registered under the name Brady.

As this does seem to be your deceased grandfather, it should be safe enough to post the birth details now:


BRADY
JOSEPH THOMAS
M
1933
652/2 272
Coatbridge or Old Monkland


MCKILLOP
JOSEPH THOMAS
M
1933
652/2 272
Coatbridge or Old Monkland

The father on the birth certificate was left blank so i really have absolutely nothing to go on but an address 1 Lefroy street and a profile.
im going with the theory that he was a male, younger than 50 because of fertility problems after that age,lightish skin because i dont have any African or Caribbean ancestry so he probably wasn't black and lived in the surrounding area.
Annie was a spirit salesperson so maybe she met him while selling alcohol?
the genealogist said that it was "unlikely that we could find this out now" but i wont give up.
1 lefroy street was where my grandpa was born apparently.

My suggestion is that you now get a copy of the 1911 Census.

There are two people listed in the Coatbridge Area under the name of Annie McKillop living there in 1911

One is aged 9 years of age and the other is aged 36 years of age in 1911

It is most probable that the 9 year old could possibly be your grandfather's mother.

The 1911 Census will give you information as to the parents of Annie Mckillop and if she had any siblings

I have used the Census Records previously with a fair bit of success.

It is worth a try.

Best of luck,

Dougie

1911 census for the 9-yr-old Annie and her large family, from the basic free search on SP, although to see the image with all details (address, occupations, places of birth, etc) you would have to buy credits on SP.


MCKILLOP
ANNIE
1911
F
9
652/2 15/ 12
Coatbridge or Old Monkland
Lanark


MCKILLOP
LIZZIE
1911
F
32
652/2 15/ 12
Coatbridge or Old Monkland
Lanark


MCKILLOP
HUGH
1911
M
35
652/2 15/ 12
Coatbridge or Old Monkland
Lanark


MCKILLOP
CATHERINE
1911
F
64
652/2 15/ 12
Coatbridge or Old Monkland
Lanark


MCKILLOP
KATIE
1911
F
8
652/2 15/ 12
Coatbridge or Old Monkland
Lanark


MCKILLOP
FRANK
1911
M
23
652/2 15/ 12
Coatbridge or Old Monkland
Lanark

MCKILLOP
MAGGIE
1911
F
0
652/2 15/ 12
Coatbridge or Old Monkland
Lanark


MCKILLOP
HUGH
1911
M
4
652/2 15/ 12
Coatbridge or Old Monkland
Lanark

MCKILLOP
MARY
1911
F
6
652/2 15/ 12
Coatbridge or Old Monkland
Lanark


MCKILLOP
DANIEL
1911
M
30
652/2 15/ 14
Coatbridge or Old Monkland
Lanark


MCKILLOP
LIZZIE
1911
F
2
652/2 15/ 12
Coatbridge or Old Monkland
Lanark

Possible marriage of the parents Hugh and Lizzie:

MCKILLOP
HUGH
NEESON
ELIZABETH
1901
652/2 60
Coatbridge or Old Monkland

Possible entries in valuation Rolls:


MACKELLOP
HUGH
Tenant Occupier
HOUSE NO 13 JACKSON STREET
OLD MONKLAND
1905
VR001400015-

Still there in 1914, 1915, 1920, 1925.

Different address in 1930:

MACKILLOP
HUGH
Tenant Occupier
HOUSE 1 A ST JOHN STREET
OLD MONKLAND
1930
VR001400037-

Still there 1935 and 1940.

Valuation Roll for 1 Lefroy Street in 1935 - but of course this doesn't tell you the names of everyone living in these households:

ANGUS
WILLIAM H
Tenant Occupier
HOUSE 1 LEFROY STREET
OLD MONKLAND
1935
VR001400042-


INGLIS
JAMES S
Proprietor
HOUSE 1 LEFROY STREET
OLD MONKLAND
1935
VR001400042-


KENNEDY
JAMES
Tenant Occupier
HOUSE 11 LEFROY STREET
OLD MONKLAND
1935
VR001400042-


And in 1930:


DUNCAN
ANDREW
Tenant Occupier
HOUSE 1 LEFROY STREET
OLD MONKLAND
1930
VR001400037-


INGLIS
JAMES S
Proprietor
HOUSE 1 LEFROY STREET
OLD MONKLAND
1930
VR001400037-



1940 -

DOCHERTY
ALEXANDER
Tenant Occupier
HOUSE 1 LEFROY STREET
OLD MONKLAND
1940
VR001400047-


[no name ]
Proprietor
HOUSE 1 LEFROY STREET
OLD MONKLAND
1940
VR001400047-



1925:

TAYLOR
MARY JANE
WIDOW
Tenant Occupier
HOUSE 1 LEFROY STREET
OLD MONKLAND
1925
VR001400032-


INGLIS
JAMES S
Proprietor
HOUSE 1 LEFROY STREET
OLD MONKLAND
1925
VR001400032-

where did you get the valuation roll for the house? thats exactly the kind of information ive been looking for. we can narrow the search by time because conception occurred in June 1932,we can narrow it down because the name wasn't on the certificate maybe just because he wasn't there at the birth so he could have been living at a different house,Kennedy lives at 11 lefroy street so thats suspect, but then thats two years after the birth so were assuming that he stayed there for a while after the birth and that is if nothing suspicious happened. I notice inglis was there for all of that time period so thats suspect but i doubt whether Ann would be staying with the man who she was having his baby and he was the proprietor and i know that dosnt mean anything but i think that proprietors always try to be more respectable if they can help it.

ArgyllGran's research has unearthed that a man by the name of William H Angus was living at 1 Lefroy Street,Old Monkland in 1935

William Hogarth Angus married Mary Mckillop in Coatbribge in 1925.

Mary is listed as one of Annie's sisters in the 1911 Census.

Mary Angus died in 1972 in Coatbridge.

Perhaps buying a copy of Mary's death certificate would help in your search as it will give the name of the person who registered the death and their relationship to Mary.

This may narrow your research as I would presume that the person who registered the death is still alive.

Dougie