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You say, " if this is even the right Ralph Mellor!"
Yes, I was wondering about that!
Where did you find the medal info you quoted in your opening post?
Do you have the medals?
Or did you just look for army records for any Ralph Mellor on a genealogy website and assume that was him?
Do you know for a fact that R Mellor 8268 is the same person as R Mellor 4909?
Looking again at R Mellor 8268 -
Ralph Mellor
in the UK, WWI Pension Ledgers and Index Cards, 1914-1923
View Original Image on Fold3.
Name: Ralph Mellor
Gender: Male
Rank: Pte
Birth Date: 1869
Residence Place: Fenton Staffs <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Military Service Region: Midlands, England
Discharge Date: 26 Mar 1917
Service Number: 8268
Regiment: N. Staffs
Title: Pension Record Cards
Description: Pension Record Ledger
Reference Number: 6/MM/No.865
There was a Ralph Mellor in Fenton in 1911:
Ralph Mellor
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Ralph Mellor
Age in 1911: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relation to Head: Son-in-law
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Draycot In Clay, Staffordshire
Civil Parish: Fenton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: 18 Park Road, Fenton <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Coal Miner and Hewer
Registration district: Stoke upon Trent
Registration District Number: 361
Sub-registration district: Fenton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 197
Piece: 16578
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Wild 66
Joseph Thomas Wild 44
William Wild 42
Ralph Mellor 38
Henrietta Mellor 34
Henrietta Doris Mellor 1/12
Ralph Mellor
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Ralph Mellor
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: William Mellor
Mother: Ruth Mellor
Gender: Male
Where born: Draycott, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Draycott in Clay
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: Stubby Lane
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Uttoxeter
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors:
Piece: 2752
Folio: 53
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
William Mellor 53
Ruth Mellor 51
William Mellor 25
Clara Mellor 10
Ralph Mellor 8
Births Dec 1872 (>99%)
MELLOR Ralph Uttoxeter 6b 335
Marriages Dec 1908 (>99%)
MELLOR Ralph Stoke T. 6b 308
WILD Henrietta Stoke T. 6b 308
But then again, other medal records for R Mellor 8268 give his YOB as either 1864 or 1869.
He had several siblings, including a Clara (1870), who apparently died unmarried - but no Thomas.
In case it's relevant - Fenton Ralph's sister Clara:
MELLOR, CLARA mms WATSON
GRO Reference: 1870 D Quarter in UTTOXETER Volume 06B Page 312
Clara Mellor
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Clara Mellor
Age: 4/12
Estimated birth year: 1870
Relation: Daughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Draycott Staffordshire England
Civil Parish: Draycott in the Clay
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Uttoxeter
Sub-registration district: Sudbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 43
Piece: 2895
Folio: 80
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
William Mellor 43
Ruth Mellor 41
William Mellor 15
George Mellor 6
Eliza Mellor 4
Ann Mellor 1
Clara Mellor 4/12
Clara Mellor
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Clara Mellor
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: William Mellor
Mother: Ruth Mellor
Gender: Female
Where born: Draycott, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Draycott in Clay
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: Stubby Lane
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Uttoxeter
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors:
Piece: 2752
Folio: 53
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
William Mellor 53
Ruth Mellor 51
William Mellor 25
Clara Mellor 10
Ralph Mellor 8
Clara Mellor
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Clara Mellor
Age in 1911: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Draycott, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Derby
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street address: Oaklands Duffield Road Derby
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Tarlen Maid (Domestic)
Registration district: Derby
Registration District Number: 435
Sub-registration district: Derby
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Piece: 20885
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Baker Chambers 61
Florence Jane Chambers 51
Clara Mellor 38
Sarah Ellen Rouse 23
Sarah Elizabeth Woodward 3
Clara Mellor
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Clara Mellor
Gender: Female
Marital status: Single
Birth Date: 2 Dec 1870
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 111
Residence Place: Swadlincote District, Derbyshire, England
Occupation: Retired Domestic Duties Unpaid
Schedule Number: 66
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: RBXT
Registration district: 434A/2.
Household Members:
Name
Annie Lea - 2 July 1869
Clara Mellor
Doris Mellor - 5 April 1894
Annie Lea is Clara's sister (see 1871 above), and Doris is their niece (see 1901 below).
Annie Lea
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Annie Lea
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Draycott, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Burton Extra
Ecclesiastical parish: Burton upon Trent All Saints
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Burton upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Burton upon Trent
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors:
Piece: 2644
Folio: 35
Page Number: 12
Household schedule number: 71
Household Members:
Name Age
Annie Lea 31
Constance Lea 3
William Lea 1
Lewis Mellor 40 - brother, widowed
Joseph Mellor 12 - nephew
Lewis Mellor 11 - nephew
Doris Mellor 6 - neice
Marriages Sep 1897 (>99%)
Lea William Burton 6b 583
Mellor Annie Burton 6b 583
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Than you for so much info on Ralph and Clara. I had searched myself and come across some of this info, but I was trying to connect it all to Henry and Thomas. And as you can see it dose not seem to fit all three children I know about to the supposed father Henry. The medals are in the possession of a cousin who copied the info on them for me. I realise that they were campaign medals, but we could not understand why the medals were in Thomas's branch of the family which is a long way from Staffs and where Ralph was [we thought still living] and why had they not gone to his wife and or children. My great grandfather Thomas did not seem to have much contact with his siblings or speak much of them. Clara as far as I know only visited her nephew [my grandfather] the once in 1936 when her brother Thomas had been dead for over 20 years. The story of the desertion was mixed up with another story that was true and proved to be, the trouble was that happened in the 1850's Australian gold rush. So even the timing of the events was out by at least 40 years! It seems that the mystery around Thomas and his siblings is set to continue!!!. Once again I thank you for your great efforts to unpick the tangle that is my family tree.
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