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Thanks Polly, I will try to get Mary Cromptons birth cert or baptism record to try to narrow down which family is correct
thanks Joe

Hi this is the same family in 1871 as the 1881 census above
1871 census


Name James Crompton
Age 32
Estimated Year of Birth 1839
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation
Address Smiths Croft
District Bolton, Lever
Parish Great Lever
Administrative County Lancashire
Birth Place Lancashire
Birth County Lancashire
in house
james head 32
ellen wife 28
mary ann daughter 3
emily daughter 1
john nuttal boarder 22
RG 10 / 3945

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So many Cromptons, It could possibly be either of these family's, do they appear on the earlier censuses for the same area.
Joe

this looks like that family in 1881

James CROMPTON Head M Male 42 D Lever, Lancashire, England Mining Engineer
Ellen CROMPTON Wife M Female 38 L Lever, Lancashire, England Wife
Mary A. CROMPTON Daur U Female 13 Gt Lever, Lancashire, England Cotton Weaver
Emily CROMPTON Daur U Female 11 Gt Lever, Lancashire, England Cotton Weaver (& Scholar)
James CROMPTON Son U Male 9 Gt Lever, Lancashire, England Scholar
Samuel CROMPTON Son U Male 4 Gt Lever, Lancashire, England Scholar
Enoch CROMPTON Son U Male 2 Gt Lever, Lancashire, England Infant
Samuel NUTTALL Boardr W Male 67 Farnwth, Lancashire, England Collier

Source Information:
Dwelling 4 Harcourt St
Census Place Farnworth, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341912
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3814 / 7
Page Number 8

The version of the baptism that Gael had using lancs bmd showing James as an engine tenter (usually means in a cotton mill)

Baptisms: 3 May 1868 St Michael, Great Lever, Lancashire, England
Mary Ann Crompton - Child of James Crompton & Ellen
Abode: Great Lever
Occupation: Engine Tenter
Baptised by: T. Loxham, Rector
Register: Baptisms 1851 - 1906, Page 43, Entry 343
Source: LDS Film 2113085

so if your James was a carter this looks like possibly the wrong family

I can not find a wedding record for James and Ellen, nor can I find them on the 1881 census, but as yet I can not see a death record either.

Is there a wedding record for James Crompton to either Ellen or his other wife that might help find his parents. or perhaps a baptism record.

Thanks Joe

When I first met my wife, who's family still lived in Bolton at the time. that was the same story, "we are descendants of Samuel Crompton you know". They said that one of Samuel's children or Grandchildren married below their status and was cut off. who knows, it is possible we are related. Thanks Joe

So no more clues from her marriage cert. then.

LOL. My grandfather was also a James Crompton from the Bolton area and he always claimed he was a descendant of Samuel Crompton......but then there are hundreds of Cromptons in that area.

Hi Ozi
Thanks again, This is the right area again, so did james marry again, is Ellen his second wife?. On the marriage cert it states that James Crompton was a Carter, perhaps he took this job at an older age when cotton spinning became to hard? Thanks Joe

Hi Christina, she was a domestic servant in Newport street, Great Bolton on the marriage cert, the witnesses were, Martin Delaney & Mary Ellen Quinlan. It also states on the cert that James Crompton (farther) was a Carter, Timothy Quinlan (James Quinlan's farther) was a tailor. James Quinlan was a grocers assistant
Thanks Joe

This looks like her with elder step-brother, Thomas.

1881 England Census
Name: Mary Crompton
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Half Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: Breightmet, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Little Bolton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 14 Taylor Court

Occupation: Paper Bag Maker

Registration district: Bolton
Sub-registration district: Bolton Western
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Crompton 35
Hannah Crompton 34
Robert Crompton 11
John Crompton 8
James Crompton 3
Mary E. Crompton
Mary Crompton 13

Does her marriage certificate give her address?

Who were the witnesses?

Father is not a carter.

1871 England Census
Name: Mary Crompton
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Female
Where born: Bolton, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Little Bolton
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Bolton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 21 Halliwell Rd

Registration district: Bolton
Sub-registration district: Little Bolton
Household Members:
Name Age
James Crompton 48 Cotton Spinner; Bolton
Ellen Crompton 46 - Housekeeper; Longwich
Thomas Crompton 25
Hannah Crompton 24
James Crompton 16
Mary Crompton 3
Robert Crompton 1
James Tower 18 - Son-in-law

Marriages Sep 1870
Crompton James Bolton 8c 373 <<<<<
Gillcrist Mary Bolton 8c 373
Towell Ellen Bolton 8c 373 <<<<<
Wood Andrew Bolton 8c 373

Gael, That sound very possible. Great Lever is very close to Bolton & Farnwoth. I wonder if they are on the 1871 census.
thanks again Joe

Hello Polly
Yes this is them. I don't Know who has died? I will try to find out. Thank you very much

Joe

possible birth?

Name: Mary Ann Crompton
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 03 May 1868
Baptism/Christening Place: Great Lever, Lancashire,
Father's Name: James Crompton
Mother's Name: Ellen
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02959-5
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 2113085
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Thank you Dea. That's the family, I did not know anything about the youngest child James, perhaps he died at a young age. I Its a shame Mary's parents were not living with them. Oh well.

Thanks again Joe