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Not sure of the relevance, but 61 Percy Road was split - 2 households in 1911, and both men appearing on 1912 ER at same address. The other family were Selly, head was Thomas age 48.

She may have boarded with one of them?

The address given on the marriage cert bothered me as well,Chris.

1911 Ancestry
Street address: 61 Percy Road, Shepherds Bush W
William Henry Silke 51
Isabella Silke 50
Ethel Isabel Silke 21
William Edwin Silke 19
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 209.

Maureen

Thanks Eddie.
So it doesn't look as though it is the Elizabeth Dyer in Scotland unfortunately unless she was unsure of her father's occupation. It's a difficult one!

Marriages Jun 1908 (>99%)
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ADAMS George Samuel Kensington 1a 389
Reid Grace Alsop Kensington 1a 389


Births Dec 1887 (>99%)
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Adams George Samuel Fulham 1a 171

(possibly above?)

1911
Name:Grace Alsop Adams
Age in 1911:25
Estimated birth year:abt 1886
Relation to Head:Wife
Gender:Female
Birth Place:Aberdeen, Scotland
Civil Parish:Hammersmith
County/Island:London
Country:England
Street address:5 Leysfield Road, Shepherds Bush W
Marital Status:Married
Years Married:3
Estimated Marriage Year:1908
Registration district:Fulham
Registration District Number:3
Sub-registration district:North Hammersmith
ED, institution, or vessel:14
Piece:209
George Samuel Adams 23 (Railway Porter) (B. Hammersmith, London)
Grace Alsop Adams 25
Ethel Grace Mary Adams

Chris :)

Hi astra johns occ was general labourer witnesses gs adams and grace adams thanks to every one for your help

Elizabeth still in Scotland April 2nd 1911 - have image if it is her :-)


Jude

Nice one Mavis :-D

family


No spouse added
Parents



John Dyer
1833 - 1902



Elizabeth P Jeffrey
1851 -

Wife



Elizabeth Dyer

B:
Abt. 1887
Lesmahagow, Lanark
D:


Ancestry tree

Mavis

If Mavis has the right one, her father was a coalminer according the the 1891 census. Could you check his occupation on the marriage certificate.

could be Elizabeth's birth





No Year Surname Forename Sex District City/
County/
MR GROS
Data Image Extract
1 1886 DYER ELIZABETH F LESMAHAGOW /LANARK 649/00 0145

Mavis

is Elizabeth J Dyer born Scotland ?? 1901

First Name Last Name Relationship Age Year Of Birth Birth Town
WILLIAM MCCRINDLE HEAD 57 1844 COLMONELL

MARGARET G MCCRINDLE DAUGHTER 28 1873 GLASGOW

JAMES G F MCCRINDLE SON 25 1876 GLASGOW

WILLIAM B I MCCRINDLE SON 22 1879 GLASGOW

ANDREW M A MCCRINDLE SON 20 1881 GLASGOW

MARGARET MCCRINDLE SISTER 60 1841 COLMONELL

ELIZABETH J DYER SERVANT 14 1887 LESMAHAGOW

Mavis

All London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 (Ancestry)

A Percy Road Hammersmith and Fulham (nothing helping though!)

Chris :)


UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1956 (Ancestry)

Name:Harry Adams
Residence Date:10 Aug 1889 (Birth)
Station:Hammersmith
Company:London and South Western
Description:Register of wages staff 1861 - 1926
Date of Appointment 8th May 1905 at Shepherds Bush. Junior Porter 9/- per week
(23/11/11 Ravenscourt Park. 25/1/12 Ascot. 5/9/18 Released for Military Service)

If she was 25 in 1912 she was born in 1886/1887 - no births showing on free bmd.

Hi Eddie

Can you give us John Dyer's occupation please and the names of the witnesses.

Many thanks

Name: Elizabeth J Adams
Birth Date: abt 1887
Date of Registration: Mar 1966
Age at Death: 79
Registration district: Windsor
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 272


Name: Harry Adams
Birth Date: abt 1890
Date of Registration: Jun 1953
Age at Death: 63
Registration district: Windsor
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 166

she was 25 domestic servant

how old was she on marriage please?

Hi to one and all I now have the marriage cert forharry adams married elizabeth jane dyer Inow can not find her in the 1911c it states on marr cert living at 61 perry rd shepherds bush father john dyer regards ed

Thanks to everyone for your help regards ed

1891 England Census
about Harry Adams Name:Harry Adams
Age:1
Estimated birth year:abt 1890
Relation:Son Father's Name:
John Adams
Mother's name:Eliza A Adams
Gender:Male Where born:
Hammersmith, London, England
Civil Parish:Hammersmith
Ecclesiastical parish:St Peter Town:London
County/Island:London

Street address:...... 30 St Peters Grove



Registration district:Fulham
Sub-registration district:St Peter Hammersmith

Household Members:

John Adams 39 (Carman)
Eliza A Adams 32
Laura A Adams 15
Charles A Adams 5
George S Adams 3
Harry Adams 1
Henry Bird 16 (Nephew)

Living at the same address in 1901.


England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
about John Adams Name:John Adams
Gender:Male
Marital Status:Widowed
Age:30
Birth Date:1851
Marriage Date:8 Dec 1881
Marriage Place:Hammersmith, Middlesex, England
Father: Henry Adams
Spouse: Eliza Collins
FHL Film Number:1966295
Reference ID:Pg 68


1881 England Census
about John Adams Name:John Adams
Age:29
Estimated birth year:abt 1852
Relationship to Head:Head
Gender:Male
Where born:Hammersmith, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish:Hammersmith
County/Island:London
Country:England
Street address:...14 St Peters Grove
Marital Status: Widow
Occupation:Carman
Registration district:Fulham
Sub-registration district:St Peter Hammersmith

Household Members:

John Adams 29
Ellen L. Adams 6
Laura Ann Adams 5
Eliza Wallis 29 (Boarder) Housekeeper
Charles Crompton 20 (Boarder)

That one was baptised "Harry"........

So would Eva's father not have been recorded as "Harry" on the birth cert?

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Harry Adams Name:Harry Adams
Record Type:Baptism
Baptism Date:28 Aug 1889
Father's Name:John Adams (Carman) 27 St Peters Grove
Mother's name:Eliza Adams
Parish or Poor Law Union:Hammersmith St Peter
Borough:Hammersmith and Fulham
Register Type:Parish Registers