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Where did she go after 1911

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greyghost

greyghost Report 6 Feb 2016 22:44

Related -
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1357920?jump=1357920

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 6 Feb 2016 18:17

Well done Pam. I am glad we could help. Hopefully, the secrets of the past are not all buried and can be opened up to you!

Good luck and if there is anything we can try and help you with, as Dea says, we are here!

jude

Dea

Dea Report 6 Feb 2016 17:57

Well done Pam !!

Just put the details on here of what you would like to find and we will do our very best !!

Dea Xxx

Llamedos Pam

Llamedos Pam Report 6 Feb 2016 17:22

Just to let you all know after your amazing help, I heard from her grandson who has emailed me several times and yesterday I received photos from him of his grandmother one of them was with her sister the lady who tried to stop me searching, and we know why she tried to stop me it was because she had a daughter and kept her secret, quite by accident I found her and now we are all on a search for her or her descendants which I am hoping I will get some help on here with thanks again everyone ;-) <3 pam

Dea

Dea Report 15 Jan 2016 08:21

I hope that you do hear back from him Pam after all your efforts. Perhaps you will also find out why the other lady was so very unhelpful !

Yes, do please let us know !

Good luck,

Dea x

Llamedos Pam

Llamedos Pam Report 14 Jan 2016 20:51

Just to let you all know as you were all so kind in spending time helping me, yesterday I sent a letter to Mary Gwendoline's grandson I explained that it was just me doing my family tree and also enclosed a small family tree so it's just wait and see if he gets back to me, will let you know if I hear back from him ??

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 9 Jan 2016 14:59

Great news! It really had to be her!

Given the sad nature of her parents deaths, then her life seems to have turned out really well.

Jude

Andrew

Andrew Report 9 Jan 2016 13:12

I got the right records first time!

Andy ;-)

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 9 Jan 2016 12:59

Glad to hear your news Pam. I felt a bit cheeky when I questioned you re. this not being the right person, but it turns out it was her after all. Good!
That's one of the benefits of this site, people look at things more objectively when it's someone's else's family.
Jan x

Dea

Dea Report 9 Jan 2016 10:53

Well, it had to be the right one didn't it ?? - So pleased that you were able to confirm this.

It just goes to show that you cannot take other peoples' word on these matters!!

Makes you wonder what that 'relative' was trying to keep you away from ???

Dea x

Llamedos Pam

Llamedos Pam Report 9 Jan 2016 10:40

I just want to thank all of you that replied to my thread in particular Jude who pushed me to order the marriage certificate for Gwendoline Mary Thain and George Sims after I had been told no relation and today the certificate has arrived and Oh Yes She Is, so feeling quite excited, I must have known that I would be getting the right certificate as yesterday I spent a couple of hours tracing the family of the son David R Sims and found he had two sons Lionel (1947) and Andrew(1952) couldnt find a marriage for Lionel but one for Andrew with two children so it's onward and upwards from this so excited even is the two birth certificates that came at the same time are wrong ones, same family but not the ones I'm looking for again thanks ??

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 30 Dec 2015 11:54

Pam, good luck!

I have just read all the newspaper articles; so sad.

Jude

Dea

Dea Report 30 Dec 2015 11:16

Best of luck Pam and do ask again on here if you need any further help. - I am sure you have the correct person.

Do let us know how you get on.

Dea x

Llamedos Pam

Llamedos Pam Report 30 Dec 2015 10:54

Thanks everyone for all your replies I was off line most of yesterday but am back on line today think it was a weather problem, I am going to send for the marriage certificate today . In reply to some of your questions I did take the word that this lady was no relation but I agree needs investigation. I think that Gwendoline may have stayed in contact with one of her sisters who I contacted and was very nasty and tried to stop me searching and contacted family and told them they were to have nothing to do with me, I was told this by a family member when she told me pressure had been put on her not to give me any information so my search went then into another part of the family until recently when I was contacted by my husbands cousins and the search has restarted and seems I may have found out the reason for her not wanting me to search but she had a daughter that nobody knew about and so think she may have wanted to keep that information secret.
They were in the workhouse/orphanage as the mother died and the father took his own life six weeks later thanks everyone will get the computer on and get searching many thanks pam <3

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 29 Dec 2015 10:49

Probate for above 27 August 1978 £39,203

Pam, you say, " I contacted someone who had been searching the Simms who told me that this lady was not related". Did you verify this yourself or take them at their word?

Personally I would invest in the marriage certificate to see if that gives any clue.

Without wishing to be cynical, they both left a huge amount of money. The £49k she left in 1980 is nigh on a quarter of a million pounds today. Perhaps the person you contacted thought you were after his/her money!

Jude

Dea

Dea Report 29 Dec 2015 08:59

George Richard died in August 1978 .

Births Mar 1897 (>99%)
Sims George Richard Thanet 2a 974


George Richard Sims

in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007

Name: George Richard Sims
Birth Date: 12 Jan 1897
Date of Registration: Sep 1978
Age at Death: 81
Registration district: Thanet
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 16
Page: 1672

Sowell St. St. Peters, Broadstairs, Thanet, Kent England


Dea x

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 29 Dec 2015 08:34

We are all guilty of typing at the same time this morning!!!!!

Jude

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 29 Dec 2015 08:30

There is a 1939 Entry which looks to be mistranscribed as 'Sinns' as follows

Sinns' Household
Broadstairs and St Peter's U D, Kent

Gwendoline M Sinns' Birth year 1900
George R Sinns' is also on this record ( birth year 1897)
One more person who is officially closed

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 29 Dec 2015 08:28

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=sims&yearOfDeath=1980&page=3#calendar

Chris :)

edits (apologies to Jude, just seen already added)

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 29 Dec 2015 08:26

There appears to be one child from that marriage in 1924 - David R