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HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 26 Aug 2016 18:26

Might be worth £9.25.....remember, the information on the death certificate is only as good as the informant.

My mum was the informant for her mother's death and she reported her year of birth as 1889 when it was actually 1888.

Jude

David

David Report 26 Aug 2016 07:59

Thank you so much Dea, HeyJude and Chris Ho for all the added information.

HeyJude, I have checked the deaths of all the other Ernest A Alexander born about 1892 and all their death are accounted for.

So even though the year of birth gives abt 1892, I do think that 1943 death is a possibility.

Chris Ho, the British Merchant Seaman record you posted is definitely my chap.

On the 1911 census, he was living at 128 Lyon Street, Southampton.

E. A. Alexander in the England, The National Roll of the Great War, 1914-1918
Name: E. A. Alexander
Military Date: 1916
Residence Year: Abt 1914
Residence Place: 128, Lyon Street, New Town, Southampton, England
Rank: Stoker Petty Officer
Regiment: Merchant Service
Section: Section IV, Southampton




Ernest Alfred Alexander in the Web: UK, Campaign Medals Awarded to WWI Merchant Seamen, 1914-1925
Name: Ernest Alfred Alexander
Birth Date: 1884
Birth Place: London
Year Issued: 1914-1925
URL: http://discovery.nationalarchi...




Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 25 Aug 2016 20:59

(below needs a check 3rd May?)

Chris :)

Britain, Merchant seamen, 1918-1941 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Ernest Alfred
Last name Alexander
Event year 1918
Birth year 1884
Birth place London
Birth county/country London
Birth date 02 May 1884
Discharge number 401698
Identity certificate number 413096
Card type CR10
Archive The National Archives
Series BT350
Date range 1918-1921


http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D8073077

(matches number)

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 25 Aug 2016 19:55

How about this one...age out but...

Deaths Mar 1943 (>99%)
Alexander Ernest A 51 Southampton 2c 15

Jude

Dea

Dea Report 25 Aug 2016 19:32

That knocks that one on the head then - thanks Chris.........

Dea Xxx

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 25 Aug 2016 19:07

(worth a check on Dea, looks to be below)

Chris :)

All Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 (Ancestry)

Ernest Cecil Alexander
abt 1885 12 Aug 1935 Quebec, Canada Southampton, England Alaunia
(Place of Birth, London. Going to Wife, Mrs .Jessie Alexander, 106, Leyton Ave. Toronto. Ont.)

Edits

(although still 1939 below also has a David Alexander, if relating, as well as Ernest, Mayfield Road. From 'google' search, often useful this link for Southampton, have come across it before)

http://www.plimsoll.org/images/1939ResA-CO_tcm4-166975.pdf


http://www.plimsoll.org/Southampton/streetdirectories/

(above will keep you busy!)

Dea

Dea Report 25 Aug 2016 18:55

I am sure that this is totally unconnected but I still keep looking at it so will post just in case:


Name: Ernest Alexander
Gender: Male
Age: 50
Birth Date: abt 1885
Departure Date: 3 Aug 1935
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Destination Port: Montreal, Canada
Ship Name: Alaunia
Search Ship Database: Search for the Alaunia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Cunard White Star Limited
Master: E J Rodgers
Last address: 34 Lavender Gardens, Dalston E8............ Fireman.

I know he was on the 1939 census but perhaps he came back and then went out again ??

I could put more to try to justify it but I think it would be a waste of time.............

Best of luck with your efforts to find his descendants - I look forward to seeing how you get on.

Dea x

David

David Report 25 Aug 2016 13:22

Will do.

Thank you.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 25 Aug 2016 12:53

If you manage to solve the mystery of when and where Ernest died come back and let us know please. Good luck :-)

David

David Report 25 Aug 2016 11:13

I am on the case thank you Rootgatherer.

Their place of residence is about 5 miles from where I live. :-)

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 25 Aug 2016 10:26

Youngest daughter married a Matthews and there's a couple of possibles for her on the Hampshire ERs. Might be worth contacting her as she would know when her father died. Be tactful though.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 25 Aug 2016 10:10

Norman George Alexander
Birth Date: 1 Oct 1918
Date of Registration: Jun 1971
Age at Death: 52
Registration district: Southampton
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 1857



Sheila M Alexander
Birth Date: abt 1923
Date of Registration: Jun 1923
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: South Stoneham
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 106


AustinQ

AustinQ Report 25 Aug 2016 06:26

Sorry David, I don't see a death for Ernest either.

In case somebody else can spot something, David is looking for he death of:

Ernest Alfred Alexander born 3rd May 1886

In 1939 he was living in Southampton and just listed as Ernest (no middle name)

David

David Report 24 Aug 2016 15:33

I have given up on the death of Ernest. Nothing seems to fit.

Thank you again AustinQ, you have been a great help.

David

David Report 24 Aug 2016 09:42

Thanks AustinQ

On the 1901 census, there is a Joseph G Cousens born Gosport Hampshire, so I think that birth is probably correct.


Births Jun 1886 (>99%)
COUSINS Joseph George Alverstoke 2b 670

Edit: The son John George Garnett's birth was also registered under the surname of Cousins.


Births Mar 1892 (>99%)
Cousins John George G Alverstoke 2b 528

I gather the parents didn't marry. Although they state on the 1911 census they had been married 20 years.



I just have a to pop out but I will get back to you in a short while.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 24 Aug 2016 09:30

Did wonder about this birth, I know wrong surname, but a maybe. (Perhaps born out of wedlock?) Don't have time to follow it up at the moment- will try and look later.

First name(s) CAROLINE MARY G
Last name COUSINS
Birth year 1893
Birth quarter 3
District ALVERSTOKE
County Hampshire
Country England
Volume 2B Page 553

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 24 Aug 2016 09:22

Death for Caroline:

First name(s) CAROLINE MARY G
Last name ALEXANDER
Gender Female
Birth day 8
Birth month 8
Birth year 1893
Death quarter 3
Death year 1984
District SOUTHAMPTON
Register number 884
County Hampshire
Volume 20 Page 1069

David

David Report 24 Aug 2016 09:12

I can't seem to find a death for Ernest.

I also can't find a birth or death for Caroline.

I have found her on the 1901 census (Parents George and Mary) but not in 1911.

David

David Report 24 Aug 2016 08:08

Well I never!

You have figured it out for me AustinQ without me even having to ask.

Yes, that is the family I am researching. I am thrilled to discover they had four children.

Thank you, very much appreciated.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 24 Aug 2016 06:22

I think this is the one:

Birth:
First name(s) ERNEST ALFRED
Last name ALEXANDER
Birth year 1886
Birth quarter 2
District KINGSTON
County Surrey
Volume 2A Page 344
------------------------------------------------

In 1911 the family were living in Hampshire:

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
128 Lyon St Southampton, St Mary, Hampshire, England

David Alexander Head Married Male Railway Engine Driver 49 1862 Hampshire Basingstoke
Mary Alexander Wife Married Female - 54 1857 Hampshire Lymington
Ernest Alexander Son Single Male Dock Labourer 24 1887 Surrey Kingston
Amy Weeks Daughter Married Female - 28 1883 Surrey Kingston
Eva Weeks Granddaughter - Female - 3 1908 Hampshire Southampton
George Weeks Grandson - Male - 1 1910 Hampshire Southampton
----------------------------------------------------

Ernest marries in 1917:

Marriages Mar 1917

ALEXANDER Ernest A Garnett Alverstoke 2b 986
Garnett Caroline M Alexander Alverstoke 2b 986
-------------------------------

1939 Register:
Alexander Household 59 Mayfield Road , Southampton C.B., Hampshire, England

David Alexander 29 Sept 1861 Locomotive Driver (retired) Married
Ernest Alexander 03 May 1886 Male General Labourer Married
Caroline (M G) Alexander 08 Aug 1893 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Freda Whitmarsh (Alexander) 09 Jul 1920 Female Canteen Waitress Single


On David Alexander's entry first it stated 'W' for widowed, but this was crossed out and replaced with 'M' for married.