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Ha Margee :-)

Ricochet :-)

I hope you realise from my considered post that I don't believe

(a) he will return

(b) that he is a sharer

(c) that he has any credence whatsoever!!!!!!

I rarely "crow" about me.....I am very proud of my BSc (second in my family, first female to go to university) I am even more proud of my DGSA qualification attained at the age of 52...if I can be even more proud (lol) it is of my marriage of 33 years (he proposed after 5 days together) and my wonderful daughters. And this FH stuff came late in life...I consider myself to be fairly experienced and like to share my subscriptions and amateur expertise with people. And most of all I love my GR family...and you are all a family which I discovered when my mum died at Christmas 2012 - thank you :-)

Well, I've never heard of him!!!!!!

Self-praise is NO recommendation

I don't believe that Roy will return to this site. He wouldn't lower himself to join the hoi polloi of amateurs here, has too high an opinion of himself. This from his pm to me:

"I believe I am entitled to consider myself one of the best-known genealogists in the UK, "

I wanted to post on this to keep it on the radar.

Roy, I am surprised anybody bothered to look at your post at all. We are all enthusiastic amateurs who want to try and give something back for the time other enthusiastic amateurs have spent helping us. In short a family :-)

None of us take "leaps of faith" lightly but we all try and weigh up the pros and cons and, of course, we are all just throwing things into the melting pot.

So your grudging thanks and your casted slights are not helpful. And if you are messaging people, presumably with comments that would not be acceptable publicly, do not sit well with me personally.

For your consummate info...I do not hide behind an avatar...I was born Judith Andrea Llewellyn, I am proud to have been married 33 years to Mr Hunt. I am a wife, a mother, a daughter, a graduate biochemist, a dangerous goods safety adviser and an enthusiastic amateur genealogist.

Please do not write us all off - as a group we're not bad. And maybe as MC says...give others on GR the benefit of YOUR experience...

Look forward to you posting on here and in future

Jude

Roy, I don't think there was any doubt about that 1901 census. I'm very cautious about jumping to conclusions but there could not be many Wilfred G Lloyds born c1866 Darlington who were colliery agents in known coalfield areas, plus Christopher did mention Bath.

If you have time to read through some of the threads on these boards you will see the amount of effort we amateurs (but also some semi and professionals) expend helping other members. There have been several instances when professional genealogists have taken advantage of this and posted questions and then passed that freely gained information to their paying clients. I'm not for one minute implicating you in that as you were responding to a post by Christopher "whoever he is" (actually he's a member who was asking for advice).

As you enjoy unpaid research you might find it rewarding to pitch in and help on some threads rather than writing it off, your comments do come across as rather arrogant but that may not be intentional.

Just so you know, when you post a response on someone's thread they are not notified by Genes Reunited. If a thread is not current then it's most likely that the original poster is not checking back daily for replies so the best way to respond is to click on their name to send a direct message which they WILL be notified of providing they've kept their contact details up to date.

Since in an earlier post I said that I was a simple housewife one could deduce from that that I am a she not a he.

You accused me in your pm of not having the courage to post my name on my posts. My name is Margaret Manson.

Roy, I don't believe any one has suggested, or is particularly interested whether of not you get paid to research celebrities, it's not really relevant to the search you are making now, and since some of us do have actors in the family ( who are working people not necessarily "celebrities" or fond of publicity in their private lives) then as I say your celebrity blog is an irrelevance here.

You doubtless have Wilfred in 1907, I agree I can't find him after that on a census, (perhaps you will have to wait for the 1921)....but then neither I, the combined experience of dozens of helpers here, nor the professional genealogist have yet been able to locate my gt gt aunt either...some people just cannot be found. But we keep looking...amateur and professional alike.

I assume you have sent a message to Christopher, hopefully he will make contact and you can compare notes.

I have not yet found any evidence that William (or Wilfred) Griffith Lloyd went to prison, and I have looked at several sources including the British Newspaper Archive, so I don't know where that story came from, which is why I was trying to contact Christopher, whoever he is.

Thank you, Sirius.

You may well be right about the Somerset coalfields. I too have looked at Wikipedia.

I too have given the benefit of my experience free over many years and on many Rootsweb mailing lists, as a simple Google search will confirm. I only describe myself as a professional genealogist because I write regularly for family history magazines, mostly Family Tree, and because I accept the occasional commission from a private client.

My interest in the ancestries of celebrities is entirely a personal thing and nobody pays me for it; on the contrary, I quite often buy BMD certificates out of my own funds. Thus, I do not appreciate sneers from people like Margee, whoever he/she is.

The problem with Wilfred Griffith Lloyd (or possibly William G Lloyd) is that he does not appear with his wife or daughter in any census that I can find. I am one of those researchers who is unwilling to take "leaps in the dark".

It IS a place for amateurs Roy, but the combined wealth of experience is pretty phenomenal ( several heads being better than one as it were) and they all give the benefit of that experience free.

"The Somerset coalfield stretched from Cromhall in the north to the Mendip Hills in the south, and from Bath in the east to Nailsea in the west, a total area of about 240 square miles "

I don't know when the last pit closest to Bath closed, but it is possible that whilst his home was in Bath, he worked further out?

Thank you all, despite the somewhat rude and arrogant comments. In fact I did find Wilfred in the 1901 census but as he was living in Bath and described as a colliery agent I initially had my doubts. There weren't many coal mines in Bath, as far as I am aware! I haven't found him in 1911.

As it happens, BTW, I do NOT get paid for my blog. It is entirely self funded, thus the unpleasant comments are uncalled for. This is the first time I have bothered with GR since I've always considered it a place for amateurs. I probably won't bother again. :-)

Looks as though I had better advise Roy on how to return to this thread!

but not so well-versed in finding info.!!!!

Looking at some of Roy's very many blogs I think he's well versed in forums ;-)

Maybe Roy thinks he is posting direct to Christopher and not on an open board for everyone to see ??

Goodness me Roy , I am truly amazed having read the blog you thoughtfully mentioned, that despite your qualifications and experience the helpers here have managed to find what you have missed.


:-D :-D

The info I posted re: his enlistment was not from FMP or Ancestry nor any other pay-to-view site. It was free.

Whatever anyone on here finds cannot be passed to a professional

Both FMP and Ancestry are very clear that their records are not to be used for financial gain

Also he enlisted for WW1 in 1915, Winnipeg, Canada. His wife Kate was in Southampton, England.

I'm sure that I can find a lot more but I'm a simple housewife, you're the professional genealogist.

As a professional you should not be expecting to get free help from people who pay for the census info they find

And if you can't find someone who was found in seconds by an 'amateur', one has to question your choice of profession