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Musgrove family from Northumberland to Canada

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David

David Report 14 Jan 2015 16:14

The other aunt is not Ada Musgrove. She married Thomas John Wilson in 1896 had a family and died still in Northumberland age 43 in 1915.
Have got the other possible aunt, Elizabeth Musgrove as a shoe fitter living with her uncle and family in Wellinbborough, Northamptonshire in the 1881 census so working on finding her after that.
Jo :-)

mgnv

mgnv Report 15 Jan 2015 07:36

Re Joseph's aunt:

The Canadian census images are free and available (except for 1921) via:
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/Pages/census.aspx

Anyone can search Ancestry (or FMP) for free - it's just that without a sub, certain details are not readily available.
So for 1891, I got no Morning hit, so I went to:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1274
I searched for Albert s/o Art* & Eliz* & got the following hits:

View Record Name Parent or spouse names Home in 1891 (Sub-District, District, Province) Birth Year Birthplace Relation View Images
View Record Albert Huggans Arthur,Elizabeth township, Halifax City, Nova Scotia abt 1877 location info
View Record Albert S Morency Arther,Elizabeth township, York North, Ontario abt 1876 location info
View Record Albert Raven John Arthur,Elizabeth township, York West, Ontario abt 1888 location info
View Record Albert Tomalty Arthur,Eliza township, Argenteuil, Quebec abt 1876 location info

It's only when I click on the "View Record" link or the image icon link that it invites me to subscribe - and I can back out of those pages.
Since Holland Landing is in the Northern part of York Co, and Morency and Morning have similar shapes as hand-written text, I looked up Albert Morency on the LAC site.
[Ancestry and LAC had a deal - details unknown - but my guess is Ancestry got exclusive rights to digitize and index the Canadian census for several years, and when the time was up, they turned over their images and indexes to LAC, who posted them on their site.]
Anyways, the main point is the identical nature of the indexes.


Here's 1871-1911:
Arthur & Elizabeth Morning are both on the 1921 census in Holland Landing, York Co ON


1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Ontario / York North / 35 Holland Landing / page 7
34 82 Morning Arthur Holland Landing M Head M Dec 1836 74
35 82 Morning Eliza ? F Wife M May 1847 64
36 82 Morning Albert M Son S Aug 1878 33
37 82 Morning Duglas M Son S Jun 1890 21
38 82 Morning Stanley M Son S Jul 1891 19
39 82 Morning Rubb M Son S Mar 1893 17
40 82 Sedore Bert F Servant S Sep 1891 19
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002038221.pdf
Looks more like a gt aunt - they both immig 1865 - all kids pob = Ont


1901 Census of Canada Page Information
District: ON YORK (North/Nord) (#130)
Subdistrict: Holland Landing (Village) G Page 8-9
44 89 Morning Arthur M Head M Dec 25 1835 65
45 89 Morning Elizabeth F Wife M May 9 1843 57
46 89 Morning Albert M Son S Aug 2 1877 23
47 89 Morning Emma F Daughter S Dec 9 1879 21
48 89 Morning Edward M Son S Oct 22 1881 19
49 89 Morning Lillie F Daughter S Feb 18 1883 17
50 89 Morning Sidney M Son S Jan 22 1885 15
1 89 Morning May F Daughter S Jun 21 1889 13
2 89 Morning Douglas M Son S Jun 25 1889 11
3 89 Morning Stanley M Son S Jul 3 1891 9
4 89 Morning Ruby M Son S Mar 9 1893 7
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1901/z/z003/pdf/z000118564.pdf
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1901/z/z003/pdf/z000118565.pdf

1891 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1891/pdf/30953_148182-00258.pdf

1881 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e328/e008183930.pdf

1871 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1871/pdf/4396618_00135.pdf
{NB Robt Jas a-3 b England, John a=5 b Quebec]


Free transcriptions are more of a problem - of course, you can do your own, but for people like me answering threads, it's too muxh work that you could do.

http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/index.html is handy for some years, but the transcriptions are of variable quality.
It's sometimes handy to look up one person at:
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=CANADA


David

David Report 15 Jan 2015 12:34

Mgnv
Thank you so much for all your research. You are obviously quite an expert. It's hard to find information that you don't have to pay to see and when you are not sure what you are looking for that's not great. Interesting you were looking for Morning. I thought it might be Manning? If you have found a Morning living in Holland Landing that could be them. Will check out all your helpful links.
Again many thanks.
Jo
:-D