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°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 30 Apr 2015 20:36

Was Henrietta's father a carpenter named James?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 30 Apr 2015 16:58

http://www.authorsden.com/categories/article_top.asp?catid=18&id=72258

(about him on above)

Chris :)

(apologies, mentioned earlier in 'Thread')

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 30 Apr 2015 16:56

Vernon also had probate shared with his mother Annie for the will of his father Albert Septimus Bradshaw he left £40,861.10.06 his address was the Waldorf Hotel Middlesex. he died on 12/07/1914 leaving £40,861.10.06. I guess his mother died soon after and he had another lot of inheritance to squander.

I'm intrigued now and hope you bring this story right up to date.

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 30 Apr 2015 16:42

Great find.....

..........and a classis example of the lack of respect for money shown by someone who hasn't worked for it.........

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 30 Apr 2015 16:14

Nottingham Evening Post 24/06/1921

Under the will of William Bradshaw who died aged 84, Vernon received a legacy

William left £497,451.07.01 giving various amount to 16 different people and causes the residue was left to his nephew Vernon Albert Mills Bradshaw or should he die during the lifetime of the testator it was to go to the University College Nottinghamshire

Vernon obviously got the money because ...

Evening Telegraph and Post, Dundee 26/02/1930

Vanished £120.000 Fortune

Big Losses in Motor Company.
Major Vernon Albert Mills Bradshaw, of Kensington Court, London, was granted an order of discharge, subject to asuspension of one year, today at the London Bankruptcy Court.

The debtor failed December 1926, with provable debts of £ 17,241 and assets which realised £1,504.

In December 1919 he inherited £120,000 under the will of an uncle, the money being invested in industrial securities and mortgages. He toured round the world on pleasure, and in 1924 became a director of two motor companies, in connection with which he lost over £87,000.

During the three years preceding his failure the debtors income was £6,000 per annum and his expenditure £8,000, and the Official Receiver opposed the application on the ground of unjustifyable extravagance in living.

Also Yorkshire Post 04/06/1925

....claims and demands against the estate of John Mills Bradshaw late of the Coppice Hospital Nottinghams deceased who died 29/09/1922 intestate ....letters of administration were granted to Vernon Albert Mills Bradshaw the heir at law....the undersigned being the solicitors of Vernon etc. on 30/06/1925 the said Vernon etc will distribute the assets of the said John Mills Bradshaw deceased amongst the parties entitled etc etc

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 30 Apr 2015 08:55

Ireland Census 1901 Transcription

First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Age Birth year Birth place
James Nesbitt Head of Family Married 26 1875 Antrim Transcription
Madge Nesbitt Wife - 26 1875 Tyrone Transcription
Ernest Nesbitt Son - 1 1900 - Transcription
Doris Gloster Daughter - 4 1897 England Transcription
Kathleen Gloster Daughter - 10 months - England Transcription*********
Mary Gloster Boarder Married 23 1878 India Transcription
Lily Ferguson Boarder Single 21 1880 Tyrone Transcription
Minnie Ferguson Boarder Single 16 1885 Tyrone Transcription
Helena Telford Nurse Single 15 1886 Down Transcription
Annie Telford Nurse Single 18 1883 Down Transcription
Jane Mc Cormick Servant Single 19 1882 Antrim


*******Not the one born Solihull - she is on 1901 in England, and died in 1901

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 29 Apr 2015 22:50

That marriage info must have been deleted...................thanks for re-posting, Claire.


Julie

Julie Report 29 Apr 2015 22:18

Hi Jacqueline, many thanks for all this very useful information. I understand that Vernon Albert Mills Bradshaw married Doris Grace Gloster in Australia in 1921, which is probably why you couldn't find a record of their marriage. He was quite a jet setter by the sounds of things. Always travelling abroad, probably on business with his job as a motor agent I presume.

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 29 Apr 2015 20:33

The marriage was in Australia Jacqueline and it was also on this thread at one point

Name: Vernon Albert Bradshaw
Spouse Name: Dori?? Gloster
Marriage Date: 1921
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1921
Registration Number: 385

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 29 Apr 2015 18:07

First name(s) DORIS GRACE
Last name BRADSHAW
Gender Female
Birth day 1
Birth month 4
Birth year 1897
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1974
District WANDSWORTH
County London
Volume 15
Page 1706
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 29 Apr 2015 18:01

First name(s) ANTHONY V
Last name BRADSHAW
Gender Male
Age 25
Birth year 1924
Occupation METALLURGIST
Departure year 1949
Departure day 29
Departure month 1
Departure port LONDON
Destination port LISBON
Destination LISBON
Country PORTUGAL
Destination country PORTUGAL
Ship name HIGHLAND CHIEFTAIN
Ship official number 148161
Ship master's first name A R
Ship master's last name JONES
Shipping line ROYAL MAIL LINES LIMITED
City LONDON
Ship destination port BUENOS AIRES
Ship destination country ARGENTINA
Ship registered tonnage 8665.63
Number of passengers 173
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 29 Apr 2015 17:54

Births Jun 1897 (>99%)
Gloster Doris Grace Aston 6d 454

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 29 Apr 2015 17:53


First name(s) VERNON ALBERT
Last name BRADSHAW
Title MR
Gender Male
Age 42
Birth year 1884
Marital status M
Occupation MOTOR AGENT
Departure year 1926
Departure day 7
Departure month 4
Departure port SOUTHAMPTON
Destination port GENOA
Destination GENOA
Country ITALY
Destination country ITALY
Ship name KONINGIN DER NEDERLANDEN
Ship master's first name J
Ship master's last name VEENLOVEN
Shipping line NEDERLAND ROYAL MAIL LINE
City SOUTHAMPTON
Ship destination port JAVA
Ship destination country INDONESIA
Ship registered tonnage 8500
Number of passengers 83
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists
Collections from Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States
Transcriptions © brightsolid online publishing ltd
People with same last name on this voyage
State First name(s) Last name Title
- DORIS GRACE BRADSHAW MRS

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 29 Apr 2015 17:47

There is NO record of Doris Gloster marrying Vernon Bradshaw, or, indeed of Vernon Bradshaw marrying anyone named Doris

BTW, the child born 1923 is Anthony V Bradshaw. 'Gloster' is not a forename


.First name(s) VERNON A
Last name BRADSHAW
Gender Male
Age 38
Birth year 1882
Marital status M
Occupation AGENT
Departure year 1920
Departure day 18
Departure month 11
Departure port LIVERPOOL
Destination port SYDNEY
Destination SYDNEY
State New South Wales
Country AUSTRALIA
Destination country AUSTRALIA
Ship name CERAMIC
Ship official number 135474
Ship master's first name GEO R
Ship master's last name METCALFE
Shipping line WHITE STAR
City LIVERPOOL
Ship destination port SYDNEY
Ship destination country AUSTRALIA
Ship registered tonnage 18481
Number of passengers 487
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists
Collections from Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States
Transcriptions © brightsolid online publishing ltd

People with same last name on this voyage
State First name(s) Last name Title
New South Wales DORIS BRADSHAW...



First name(s) VERNON A
Last name BRADSHAW
Gender Male
Age 40
Birth year 1881
Marital status M
Occupation NIL
Departure year 1921
Departure day 28
Departure month 5
Departure port BIRKENHEAD
Destination port SHANGHAI
Destination SHANGHAI
Country CHINA
Destination country CHINA
Ship name TAMBA MARU
Ship official number 1803
Ship master's first name N
Ship master's last name NATSUYAMA
Shipping line NIPPON YUSEN KAISHA
City BIRKENHEAD
Ship destination port JAPAN
Ship destination country JAPAN
Ship registered tonnage 3570
Number of passengers 83
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists
Collections from Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States
Transcriptions © brightsolid online publishing ltd
People with same last name on this voyage
State First name(s) Last name Title
- DORIS BRADSHAW - AGE 24!

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 29 Apr 2015 17:38

First name(s) Vernon A M
Last name Bradshaw
Service number -
Rank -
Corps Unit No 3 British Red Cross Society
Service record Corps: Unit No 3 British Red Cross Society
Archive reference WO372/3
Archive reference description Campaign Medal Index Cards and Silver War Badge Cards
Country Great Britain
Image link http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D1450781



First name(s) Vernon Albert Mills
Last name Bradshaw
Initials V A M
Rank Chauffeur
Certificate number 2497
Department Motor
Passport number 125899
Destination Boulogne
Record set British Red Cross Register of Overseas Volunteers 1914-1918
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory Regimental & service records
Collections from Great Britain

Julie

Julie Report 27 Apr 2015 23:42

Thanks again Claire. I'll check that out. This Henrietta would be the right age as she was 22 years old when she married Vernon in January 1904.

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 27 Apr 2015 22:53

This could be Henrietta although it's difficult to say without the 1911 cenus

Deaths Dec 1948 (>99%)
Bradshaw Henrietta A 67 W.Ham 5a 533

Julie

Julie Report 27 Apr 2015 17:09

Claire, thank you so much for the valuable information you sent me. I have a contact in Tazmania who recently contacted me through another genealogical site saying that Vernon married a kinswoman of her's (Doris Gloster) in 1921, and that they had a son in 1923, born in England. I have therefore sent for Anthony V Gloster Bradshaw's birth certificate, Marylebone 1a 710, Sept 1923. My contact also told me there could be a grandson living in Australia and she is trying to track him down but apparently you have to have the person's permission to acquire a copy of their birth certificate in that country. I wonder if that rule just applies to people who are still living?

Still no trace of Vernon's first wife, Henrietta Annie Bradshaw (nee Foot), who he married in 1904. I have found that Vernon made a trip to Australia in 1911 accompanied by "Mrs Bradshaw". Did Henrietta die in Australia or did they divorce? My contact has sent for a marriage certificate for Vernon's marriage to Doris and hopefully it will state whether he was a widower or a divorcee.

Julie

Julie Report 27 Apr 2015 16:28

MGNV, thank you so much for the very detailed information. I sent a query to the GRO and didn't get anything like such a comprehensive explanation.

I have now ascertained from the marriage certificate that Vernon Albert Mills Bradshaw married Henrietta Anna Foot in 1904.

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 26 Apr 2015 14:14

Hang on to that bible! Seems there's a child born by the second wife