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Mary Ellen Gratton 1871-1910

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lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 6 Mar 2016 15:22

seems possible as mmn = Gratton

Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1890
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name
GRATTON Hannah Hanley Stoke-On-Trent GRATTON

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 7 Mar 2016 04:58

pm from Maureen ................

John and Mary Ellen didn't quite make it in time, my Grandmother put in an appearance the day before the wedding. She was the first of seven children. I have all this information as I grew up knowing all seven of them. What I not sure of Is Johns death date and information on their ancestors
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Note that what Maureen had all that we have posted, and what she really wanted was ..................

John's death date

Information on their ancestors.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Mar 2016 11:26

A possibility for John's death??

Deaths Dec 1943 (>99%)
Deaville John 76 Stoke 6b 183


I know you're new to this posting lark, Maureen, and we were all beginners once, but please, in future, tell us everything you already know - it would save us a lot of time.

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 7 Mar 2016 15:10

Have you got this Maureen

Staffordshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1912
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office
DEAVILLE John PENNINGTON Mary A Bucknall, St Mary Stoke-On-Trent

according to several trees on ancestry Mary Ellen died in 1910 and John remarried in 1912 to another Mary (Mary Annie). The certificate says Johnis a widower age 44 of 45 Chapel St Bucknall

All the trees have John dying on 27th December 1944 at 85 Birch St Northwood but I can't find any reg for that just the 1943. Presumably all copied from 1 person's tree!

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 8 Mar 2016 00:58

I don't think the 1871 Census has been posted ..........

This looks like Mary Ellen's parents with John's widowed mother .......

1871 Census

Name: John Gratton
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Gratton
Mother's name: Ellen Gratton
Gender: Male
Where born: Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Stoke upon Trent
Ecclesiastical parish: Bucknall St Mary
Town: Bucknall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Hanley
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Household schedule number: 75
Piece: 2861
Folio: 9
Page Number: 14

John Gratton 21 Potter Glosh Placer
Ann Gratton 22 b.ca 1849, Wyrley, Staffordshire
Ellen Gratton 66 b.ca 1805, Hanley, Staffordshire, Mother, Widow, Charwoman

no street address, just Bucknall

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 8 Mar 2016 01:32

?????????

John with his parents and siblings in 1861

1861 Census

Name: John Gratton
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: 1850
Relation: Son
Father's name: James Gratton
Mother's name: Ellen Gratton
Gender: Male
Where born: Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Shelton
Ecclesiastical parish: Hope
Town: Hanley
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Shelton
ED, institution, or vessel: 11

Household schedule number: 86
Piece: 1936
Folio: 12
Page Number: 17

James Gratton 57 b.ca 1804, Norton, Staffordshire, Green Grocer
Ellen Gratton 51 b.ca 1810, Caverswall, Staffordshire
Livnnia Gratton 29 b.ca 1832, Hanley, Staffordshire, Daughter, Painter on China
James Gratton 20 b.ca 1841, Hanley, Son, Potter
Anna Gratton 15 b.ca 1846, Hanley, Daughter, Painter on China
Edward Gratton 13 b.ca 1848, Hanley, Son, Potter
John Gratton 11 Potter
Henry Gratton 8 b.ca 1853, Hanley, Son, Scholar

Address:- 119 Marsh St


and the same family in 1851

1851 Census

Name: John Gratton
Age: 8 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Son
Father's name: James Gratton
Mother's name: Ellen Gratton
Gender: Male
Where born: Shelton, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Stoke upon Trent
Ecclesiastical parish: Hope
Town: Hanley and Shelton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Shelton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1n

Household schedule number: 88
Piece: 2005
Folio: 352
Page Number: 25

James Gratton 46 b.ca 1805, Burslem, Staffordshire, Potter Prefseh (?? Presser??))
Ellen Gratton 42 b.ca 1809, Meir Heath, Staffordshire, Potter - Paintress
Ellen Gratton 21 b.ca 1830, Longton, Staffordshire, Daughter, Potter - Paintress
William Gratton 19 b.ca 1832, Hanley, Staffordshire, Son, Potter Presser (?)
Emma Gratton 16 b.ca 1835, Shelton, Staffordshire, Daughter, Potter - Stiltmaker
Lavinia Gratton 14 b.ca 1837, Shelton, Daughter, Potter - Paintress
James Gratton 12 b.ca 1839, Shelton, Son, Potter - R ----Moulds (??can't read)
Rosa Gratton 10 b.ca 1841, Shelton, Daughter, Scholar
Anne Gratton 8 b.ca 1843, Shelton, Daughter, Scholar
Edward Gratton 5 b.ca 1846, Shelton, Son, Scholar
John Gratton 8 Mo

Address:- Marsh Street

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 8 Mar 2016 01:43

????????? Marriage of John Gratton and Ellen


from freereg .......... a FREE site

http://freereg2.freereg.org.uk/search_queries/new


County Staffordshire
Place Burslem
Church name St John the Baptist
Register type Unspecified
Marriage date 19 Oct 1828
Groom forename James
Groom surname GRATTON
Groom condition bachelor
Groom parish Burslem
Groom occupation Potter
Bride forename Ellen
Bride surname WARRILOW
Bride condition spinster
Bride parish Burslem
Witness1 forename Thomas
Witness1 surname NEWBON
Witness2 forename Bagnall
Witness2 surname BEECH
Notes Groom signs X