General Chat

So - a happy ending - finding two half sisters. What a pity that they were all kept apart by not knowing of their existence!
Jen
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Thanks everybody. Don't suppose anybody knows if each individual had to produce their birth certificates to register for ration books? If someone was using the name of a live in partner would they have had to prove that they were legally of that surname?

This could solve a lot of mysteries for a lot of people!

Jenny
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Looks as though you had to give your date of birth but doesn't say anything about documents

http://www.1911census.org.uk/regform1939a.jpg

I think it is only fairly recently that people have had to produce documentary evidence of their birth, marriage etc. so I doubt it very much. Lots of people didn't even have a copy of their birth certificate even if their birth was registered. I didn't have mine until fairly recently.

My in-laws managed to get through claiming pensions etc. without a marriage certificate.

Kath. x

If you are mean and have a rough idea where yr rellies were living then the electoral registers on Ancestry will often do the job.

Unfortunately the ER's on Ancestry only cover a small area of the county

Ancestry ER's cover a lot of the population though - Greater London, Surrey, Midlands, West Yorkshire.

Thanks for the info. Though not a member of FMP, I have signed up to receive updates.

Has anybody any news on the release date from FMP. Do you think we will be able to go into somebody's reord by putting in their exact date of birth or will it be by address? I wish they would hurry up and put us out of our misery!

No news here yet Jennifer..how we search is anybody's guess :-D :-D

It's still on for later this year and that's all they are giving away at the moment..not long now though :-D :-D

According to the latest Lost Cousins newsletter, members of FMP's Customer Participation Group will be testing the software on dummy data this week.

http://lostcousins.com/newsletters2/midsep15news.htm#Register1939

Ooooooo thanks Kense...let's hope it's all tip top :-D :-D

Why are we waitng? Why are we waiting? You know the tune!. Slow hand clap everyone & maybe the unveiling will happen. Maybe the beta version was not proved to be user friendly after all. In the meantime Ancestry are desperately trying to sign us up while we still have some money left.

I read earlier today that release date was October 30th. :-)

How spooky is that? Halloween weekend!

So THATS why Bookers is full of pumpkins.........LOL

From a commercial point of view an utter waste of time.

Digitisation of old records is very expensive. Ancestry keep costs down by getting the brunt of the work done in China and then having their members clean up the mess by making annotations. Even then it took me several years to have Miss Freckingham correctly entered rather than as Miss F-ckingham!

Most of today's population have a pretty good idea where their rellies were in 1939 although 1940-46 can be a bit of a challenge. Thus the tiny percentage who go in for FH as a hobby will only want the 1939 records for interest and will not fork out very much. On top of that restricting release to those born before 1914 or earlier will even further dilute the commercial viability of the project. There is no legal obstacle to disclosing data for anybody re:1939 and I suspect conditions will rapidly be relaxed once all the early birds have been squeezed.

Quite how a ration card issued in 1939 is to be reliably matched with a death anything from a week to over 75 years at low cost in order to release card details is not obvious.

Meanwhile all of the electoral registers remain available and much may be deduced from them even in quite complex situations. Ay have London and Surrey and are extending their digitisation. My 2c is that unless at some point FMP relax their conditions the 1939 ration card database will be a serious money loser. However given the close financial connections between D C Thomson and the SNP anything is possible.

Census and travel data from Australia and the USA can often be cross indexed with records for the same people born in the UK as the access dates are less restrictive. Given the large scale emigration 1911- this poss. should not be ignored.

The 1939 census was destroyed by arson by persons who were never prosecuted for the action as it was seen to be convenient by some. It had nothing to do with enemy bombing and was no accident. However well before 1939 microfiche technology was in use in the UK. Some and possibly all of the 1939 census was copied to microfiche and this copy or copies was not destroyed in the arson attack as the arsonist was not aware of the fiche copy. No doubt at some point in time the fiche will re appear a Marie Celeste of the archives. Some biographies published in the last 20 years have information which would have been next to impossible to compile without access to the '39 fiche.

Looks like it's Monday 2nd November :-D :-D :-D

That's the date they emailed me 02/11/2015 :-D

I think nearly £7.00 per household on top of the price paid for the subscription is too much.

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