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PricklyHolly
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8 Sep 2016 08:13 |
Thank you for your reply Pat.
With Chris on board, we managed to figure out who was searching for Minnie.
Prickles. :-)
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Patricia
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8 Sep 2016 01:23 |
I am very sorry for not replying immediately to you all but have had a family illness to attend to. I really do appreciated all you help. Hopefully next week I can start going through all your info. So sorry fpr this delay. Thankyou all Pat
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PricklyHolly
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6 Sep 2016 14:11 |
Oh, norty Maria Airey.........and there was me saying how well she did for herself!
William Airey on the 1901 census, appears as Willam Ancy on Ancestry.
Apart from Patricia hoping to find out what happened to Minnie Skeen, I don't even know if any of this information is of interest to her?
As there were no words of appreciation, I do believe I have wasted many hours of my time.
:-(
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Chris Ho :)
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6 Sep 2016 14:06 |
(right you are PH, will await Patricia, and see what she thinks to it all, I think!)
Chris :)
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6 Sep 2016 14:03 |
Joseph Airey was William's brother.
He was born 1891 Salford.
He is on the 1911 census I posted, living with his married sister....Annie Lindsay.
Joseph Airey in the UK, WWI Service Medal and Award Rolls, 1914-1920 Name: Joseph Airey Military Year: 1914-1920 Rank: Driver Medal Awarded: British War Medal and Victory Medal Regiment or Corps: Royal Artillery (Royal Horse Artillery and Royal Field Artillery) Regimental Number: 97031 Sub Unit: Royal Field Artillery Previous Units: R.F.A. 97031 Dvr
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Chris Ho :)
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6 Sep 2016 13:47 |
(could well be him, he had a long Navy career, by looks of it, came across below)
Chris :)
Salford Absent Voters list of 1918
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexp.html
Absent Voter: 1918 North Division, Salford, Lancs. William Airey - Qualifying Premises: 50 Arlington Street Polling District: N.S. Description of Service: P.O. 207121, H.M.S. 'Vulcan' Register: Absent Voters List 1918, Entry 7418
(also, if relating!)
Absent Voter: 1918 North Division, Salford, Lancs. Joseph Airey - Qualifying Premises: 50 Arlington Street Polling District: N.S. Description of Service: 97031 Dvr., R.F.A. Register: Absent Voters List 1918, Entry 7417
(wondered if 'Walter' below?, looks to be in same district as Arlington Street from google search, not that I would know, lol)
1901 (Find My Past) Airey William 1858 Salford, Lancashire, England (Widower)
18 January 1883 - Sheffield Daily Telegraph - Sheffield, South Yorkshire
(Mother of Walter below!)
18 January 1883 - Sheffield Daily Telegraph - Sheffield, South Yorkshire
HEAVY PENALTIES FOR ILLICIT DRINKING Maria Airey, who keeps a cigar and refreshment shop Millgate, was charged with selling spirts without a licence.
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6 Sep 2016 11:55 |
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William Taylor in the 1901 England Census Name: William Taylor Age: 19 Estimated birth year: abt 1882 Relation to Head: Member Of Crew (Member) Gender: Male Birth Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Vessels Town: Gibraltar County/Island: Royal Navy Country: England
Registration district: Royal Navy at Sea and in Ports Abroad Sub-registration district: RN Ships ED, institution, or vessel: Minerva
William Taylor 19 (Single) Stoker
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PricklyHolly
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6 Sep 2016 11:34 |
I have just remembered........
On the top of the page of the Seaman's Service record I posted........
Above...... William Airey alias William Taylor...is written "Chatham"
So I wouldn't mind betting this is William on the 1911 census.........
William Taylor in the 1911 England Census Name: William Taylor Age in 1911: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1883 Relation to Head: Boarder Gender: Male Birth Place: Manchester Civil Parish: Chatham County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: 188 High Street, Chatham Marital Status: Single Occupation: Petty Officer 1Cl Royal Navy Registration district: Medway Registration District Number: 47 Sub-registration district: Rochester and Chatham
Household Members:
Percy Ansell 46 Laura Ansell 54 Lydia Swyer 23 Alice Newton 23 Florence Smoker 18 Edward Martin 37 Frederick Janes 22 William Taylor 28 <<<<< John Cauley 28 Harold Collins 27 Joseph Hitchen 24 Thomas Oldham 21 John Edmonds 24 Percy Joyce 21 James Hey Taylor 27 Edward Cornell 28
William was 9 years old when his mother died.......so I wonder if perhaps he was fostered out to a Taylor family and decided to keep that surname.
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6 Sep 2016 11:19 |
Mother Ellen died in 1892.
I have not found any of the Airey's on the 1901 census.
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6 Sep 2016 11:18 |
Good girl Chris!!
:-D
So William was looking for the daughter of his mothers sister.
In other words........his cousin Maria Alice Egan aka Minnie.
(I just need to get my head around that! ;o))
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6 Sep 2016 10:53 |
Wonder if below Birth?, at bottom of first page on Navy Record, in 'blacky' patch!, says 'name given on entry to be adhered to, then what looks like 'although 9 May 1883?...
Image overleaf then mentions NZN Appointment.
(on Find My Past also)
Chris :)
Births Jun 1883 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------- AIREY William Manchester 8d 256
(the one that died)
Baptism: 2 Aug 1885 Sacred Trinity, Salford, Lancashire, England Walter Airy - [Child] of Walter Airy & Ellen Born: 18 Jun 1885 Abode: 22 Queen Street Occupation: Labourer Baptised by: Charles E Little Register: Baptisms 1872 - 1887, Page 242, Entry 1935 Source: LDS Film 2356038
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
Edits
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1883
AIREY William Central Archives+, Manchester Central Library (Mother Maiden Name) MOORE CEN/4/90
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php
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6 Sep 2016 09:40 |
William Taylor in the UK, Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services, 1853-1928 Name: William Taylor Gender: Male Birth Date: 9 May 1884 Birth Place: Manchester, Lancashire Occ: Training Ship Boy Service number: 207121 First Service Date: 20 Nov 1899 First Ship Served On: Caledonia Last Service Date: 9 May 1917 Last Ship Served On: Bonventure
On the top of the page it reads......William Airey alias William Taylor.
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6 Sep 2016 09:22 |
I was just looking into that Chris! :-)
On the 1891 census, Walter and Ellen have a son William
AIREY on original
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Queen Street, Salford, Lancashire, England
Walter Aney Head Married Male 32 1859 Labourer Bolton, Lancashire, England
Ellen Aney Wife Married Female 33 1858 Tailoress Dublin, Ireland
Annie Aney Daughter - Female 12 1879 Scholar Salford, Lancashire, England
William Aney Son - Male 8 1883 Scholar Salford, Lancashire, England
Frances Aney Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Salford, Lancashire, England
I can't find a birth registered for a William Airey born 1883 Salford, Lancashire.
I though it might be this one.........
Births Mar 1884 (>99%) Airey John William Salford 8d 19
But I have checked him out and it's not him.
I need to put my thinking cap on! lol
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6 Sep 2016 08:40 |
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7147200
Reference: ADM 188/361/207121 Description: Name Taylor alias Airey, William Official Number: 207121 Place of Birth: Manchester, Lancashire Date of Birth: 09 May 1884 (above relates I think!, he was serving on 'Philomel' 10th May 23 - 8th June 24)
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19230709.2.3.3?query=minnie egan
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19270806.2.114?query=c p o airey
(mention of him on above, Boxing)
Chris :)
(no idea where Taylor name comes from, will leave that to PH and others!, lol)
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6 Sep 2016 03:00 |
this has reminded me that there was a notice in an Auckland paper in 1923.this person was a CPO Airey of HMS Philomel seeking Minnie Egan. I did make enq's into this person & origin but got no response.
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5 Sep 2016 22:21 |
Nudging up for Patricia.
:-)
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5 Sep 2016 14:06 |
I was just trying to get my head around that.
Soo......Walter married his Uncle Thomas's wife's sister Ellen.
Walter's father William married Thomas's sister Maria.
Phew!.....I think I have that right! :-)
To reply on here Patricia........type in the white box at the bottom, then click on "Submit"
Prickles. ;o))
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5 Sep 2016 13:45 |
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Back Spring Gardens, Great Bolton, Bolton, Lancashire, England
William Egin Head Married Male 45 1806 Stone Mason Ireland Ann Egin Wife Married Female 40 1811 Wife Of Stone Mason Mayo, Mayo, Ireland William Egin Son Unmarried Male 17 1834 Stone Mason Mayo, Mayo, Ireland Maria Egin Daughter - Female 15 1836 Carder Ireland Thomas Egin Son - Male 12 1839 Piecer Ireland <<<<<<<<< Joseph Egin Son - Male 7 1844 Scholar Ireland Mary Willigan Visitor Widow Female 60 1791 Bonnet Maker Ireland
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5 Sep 2016 13:39 |
This is interesting........on the marriage record for Thomas Egan, his father was William Egan, Occupation: Mason
On the 1861 census, Walter Airey is Grandson to a William Egan born 1803 Ireland..Occupation Stone Mason.
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 14, Queen Street, Great Bolton, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Household Members
William Egan Head Married Male 58 1803 Stone Mason Ireland Ann E Egan Wife Married Female 48 1813 - Ireland Joseph Egan Son Unmarried Male 17 1844 Stone Mason Ireland Ann Egan Daughter Unmarried Female 19 1842 Cotton Factory Worker Ireland William Airy Son In Law Married Male 50 1811 Engine Pattern Maker Ulverston, Lancashire, Maria Airy Daughter Married Female 23 1838 - Ireland Walter Airy Grandson - Male 2 1859 - Bolton, Lancashire, England
Marriages Mar 1858 (>99%) AIREY William Bolton 8c 312 EAGAN Maria Bolton 8c 312
(Walter and Ellen were living in Queens Street in 1891)
Maria claims to have been born in Bolton Lancashire on the 1871 census......
Maria Airey in the 1871 England Census Name: Maria Airey Age: 29 Estimated birth year: abt 1842 Relation:Head Gender: Female Where born: Bolton, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Manchester Ecclesiastical parish: Cathedral County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Manchester Sub-registration district: Market Street
Household Members:
Maria Airey 29 (Widow) Refreshment Room Keeper Clara Marshall 22 (Lodger) Waitress Walter Nirey 12 (Son) Airey on the image
(Res: 51 Long Millgate)
Maria Airey in the 1881 England Census Name: Maria Airey Age: 38 Estimated birth year: abt 1843 Relationship to Head: Head Gender: Female Where born: Bolton, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Manchester County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 51 Long Mill Gate Marital Status: Widow Occupation: Shopkeeper Tobacconist Registration district: Manchester Sub registration district: Market Street
Household Members:
Maria Airey 38 Mary Turner 37 (General Servant/Domestic)
(Res: 51 Long Millgate)
Maria seems to have done rather well for herself considering she was a widow.
I seem to have lost her after the 1881 census.......but I will keep looking.
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5 Sep 2016 12:59 |
Alexander Thomas Airey in the Manchester, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915 Name: Alexander Thomas Airey Baptism Date: 27 Jun 1877 Parish: Salford, Sacred Trinity Parish as it Appears: Sacred Trinity Salford Father's name: Walter Airey (Labourer) 2 Taylors Ch? Mother's name: Ellen Airey Reference Number: L131/1/3/3 Item Number: 3 Archive Roll: 561
Annie Airey in the Manchester, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915 Name: Annie Airey Baptism Date: 2 Jul 1879 Parish: Salford, Sacred Trinity Parish as it Appears: Sacred Trinity Salford Father's name: Walter Airey (Carter) 9 Woods? Buildings Mother's name: Eleanor Airey Reference Number: L131/1/3/3 Item Number: 3 Archive Roll: 561
I am wondering if Alexander's birth was registered in the name of just Thomas....and he was later baptised as Alexander Thomas?
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Births Jun 1877 (>99%) Airey Thomas Salford 8d 85
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Thomas Airey in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Thomas Airey Estimated birth year: abt 1877 Registration Year: 1880 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at Death: 3 Registration district: Salford Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8d Page: 74
Frances Airey in the Lancashire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1911 Name: Frances Airey Birth Date: 20 Jul 1888 Baptism Date: 31 Oct 1888 Parish: Salford, Lancashire, England Search Photos: Search for 'Salford' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Father: Walter Airey (Steeple Jack) 22 Queen Street Mother: Ellen Airey Register Type: Bishop's Transcripts Reference Number: Drm/2/218a
Possibly another child........
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Births Sep 1885 (>99%) Airey Walter Salford 8d 88
Deaths Sep 1887 (>99%) Airey Walter 2 Salford 8d 127
I'm not seeing a birth register for William
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Births Mar 1884 (>99%) Airey John William Salford 8d 19 >>>>>>>>No, this isn't him.
Edit: I found the marriage for Annie Airey
Annie Arrey (Airey on the image) in the Manchester, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930 Name: Annie Arrey (Spinster) 8 Lloyd Street Birth Year: abt 1881 Age: 22 Marriage Date: 18 Jul 1903 Parish: Salford, St Stephen Parish as it Appears: S Stephen Father: Walter Arrey (Carter) Spouse: James Lindsay (Bachelor) Carter....6 Lloyd Street Spouse Father: Frances Lindsay (Cab Driver) Item Number: 4 Archive Roll: 959 Witnesses: Nathaniel Brown and Jessie Lindsay
Annie Lindsay in the 1911 England Census Name: Annie Lindsay Age in 1911: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1881 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: Salford, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Salford County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 19 Ashton St Greengate Salford Marital Status: Married Registration district: Salford Registration District Number: 465 Sub-registration district: Broughton
Household Members:
James Lindsay 28 Annie Lindsay 30 Francess Lindsay 6 Jessie Lindsay 3 Annie Lindsay 2 Joseph Airey 19 (Brother in Law to Head)
Married 5 years....5 children born, 3 living, 2 had died.
Brother Joseph.......
Births Dec 1891 (>99%) Airey Joseph Salford 8d 84
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Marriages Sep 1920 (>99%)
Airey Joseph Hanlon Salford 8d 241 Hanlon Emily Airey Salford 8d 241
Births Jun 1921 (>99%) Airey William Hanlon Salford 8d 113
Births Dec 1924 (>99%) Airey Edna Hanlon Salford 8d 148
Births Jun 1929 (>99%) Airey Joseph Hanlon Salford 8d 574
Mothers birth.......
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Births Sep 1895 (>99%) Hanlon Emily Salford 8d 113
Sister Frances married in 1910........
Marriages Dec 1910 (>99%)
Airey Frances Salford 8d 18 Haydock William Salford 8d 18
In the 1911 census she is lodging with her husband brother.......
(I Checked John and William out on the 1901 census)
Frances Haydock in the 1911 England Census Name: Frances Haydock Age in 1911: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1889 Relation to Head: Boarder Gender: Female Birth Place:Salford, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Broughton County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 3 Voilet St L Broughton Marital Status: Married Occupation: Spinner Registration district: Salford registration district: Broughton
Household Members:
John Haydock 33 Lily Haydock 30 Frances Haydock 22 (Married under one year......No children)
Births Mar 1913 (>99%) Haydock Lily Airey Salford 8d 190
Births Mar 1915 (>99%) Haydock William Airey Salford 8d 129
Births Dec 1917 (>99%) Haydock Eileen Airey Salford 8d 62
Births Mar 1920 (>99%) Haydock Frances Airey Salford 8d 123
Father William........
Name: William Haydock Age in 1911: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1883 Gender: Male Birth Place: Salford Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Gillingham County/Island: Kent Country: England Marital Status: Single <<<<Married on the image Occupation: Leading Stoker Registration district: Medway
William Haydock 28 Married
William Haydock in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995 Name: William Haydock Death Date: 13 Dec 1955 Death Place: Salford Probate Date: 23 Aug 1957 Registry: Manchester, Chester, England
Of 49 Meadow Road, Salford...At Ladywell Hospital, Salford
To Frances Haydock widow......Effects: £210..2s 6d
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