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No I found the information on a tree on ancestry.... I do not use this site for any records

I found this herehttp://ryersonindex.net/search.php

SMITH Cecelia Anew diednotice 03SEP2007 Death 83

Herald sun Melbourne

Here is the report


SMITH, CECELIA ANNE
SMITH. - Cecelia Anne. On Mon, Sept. 3, 2007 Beloved wife of Horace (Harry) (dec. ). Loving mother of John, Anita, David, Derek, Richard, Jennifer, Deborah and Jacqualine. Fond mother-in-law to Eileen, Brian and Graeme. Loving Grandma to 34 grandchildren and 32 great grandchildren.
Obituaries
Published in Herald Sun on 05/09/2007

Many thanks for this Jax - I'll get onto it straight away.

Cheers

Cissy

I am still searching for Cecilia Ann GRIFFITHS.

I know she lived at 48 Ryecroft Street, Gloucester in 1943/44' the same time as the STEEL family lived there. One was Peggy Steel who would certainly have known Cecilia. Peggy would be in her 90s now and I am hoping I will eventually find her, for I cannot find a death certificate for her.

Peggy Steel married twice, to DAWES and then to William LAIT. William Lait died in the 1960s in Gloucester. I can find no children of Peggy's and, as I can't find a death certificate, I am hoping she's still living - perhaps in a residential home?

I'd appreciate hearing if anyone has any suggestions as to how I may trace Peggy Lait.

Many thanks
Cissy

Did you follow up the Cecelia in Australia?

Hi Jax - Imany thanks for your reply.
I wrote to a few Melbourne newspapers asking if anyone knew of the Smith family but received no replies. I found a Derek Smith and emailed him but again no reply. I really don't know where to go from here with a name like Smith - nor how to find Australian records.

So I thought that finding someone with an unusual surname, Lait, might be a simpler thing to do, especially as I can find no deAth certificate for Peggy Lait.

Cheers
Cissy

I thought you may have tried to contact the tree owners on ancestry

There are three that I can see but only one has used the site recently

If you just want me to pass on a message to that one saying you are interested in cecilia and could she contact you, I will.... she may not know anything but it's a start

Just click on my name and send me your email address privately

Many thanks for your kind offer Jax.

I did, in fact, send a message to Gregory and Godfrey on the 11 March and I'm still awaiting a reply.
Have just found Daniellie on GR, so have sent her a message.

How can you see when people use the GR site?

Cheers, Cissy

You cannot see when people last used GR, the only thing you can sort of tell is when they joined by their membership number

Thank you Jax for your help and interest.

I'd still like to Persue the Peggy Lait line of searching while I'm waiting for the GR members to reply to my Smith enquiries - of course, I realise this may take a very long time.

I'd appreciate my suggestions your may have to help me find Peggy.

Many thanks,

Cissy

Where did you find info about the marriages for Peggy?

EDIT

Just found the first one......using correct spelling


Marriages Sep 1943 (>99%)

Dawes Eric R Steele Gloucester C. 6a 891
Steele Peggy D M Dawes Gloucester C. 6a 891

Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
LAIT William Alfred Edward DAWES Peggy Doreen May Gloucester Gloucester City A Register Office 1952 2A 132

Who registered this?

First name(s) WILLIAM A E
Last name LAIT
Gender Male
Birth year 1890
Age 75
Death quarter 4
Death year 1965
District GLOUCESTER CITY
County Gloucestershire
Volume 7B
Page 473
Country England

Peggy's birth was in 1924

This was Peggy's brother

First name(s) JOHN ALBERT
Last name STEELE
Gender Male
Birth day 16
Birth month 1
Birth year 1920
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 2005
District ST. AUSTELL
District number 3671A
Register number 11D
Entry number 238
Date of registration mm/yy 0805
County Cornwall

The informant may have info about Peggy

So who was Peggy? Just someone who may have lived in the same house more than 70 years ago? Would she remember that far back?

Who have these people got in their tree that you have sent messages to?

Hi Jax-thank you so much once again. As you'll see from my message above (19 April) I'm searching forCecilia ann Griffiths.
I know that she lived t the Ryecroft Street, Gloucester address I'm 1943/44 and I know that theSteele family also lived there, including Peggy.

So I hoping Peggy will have inf about where Cecilia was born - her rough age - and where she went after Ryecroft St. A huge wish I know

I'll keep you posted

Cheers, Cissy

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Following on from Jacqueline's post this looks like peggy's sister in laws death

Name: MS Patricia Mary Steele
Gender: Female
Age: 88
Birth Date: 1923
Death Date: 16 Jan 2011
Residence Place at Death: Saint Austell, England
Postal Code District: PL25

There are some children one in Gloucestershire the others in Southampton

One possible daughter has a tree on here although her parents are not in it

Marriages Mar 1945 (>99%)

Cleaver Patricia M Steele Gloucester C. 6a 807

Steele John A Cleaver Gloucester C. 6a 807

Many thanks Jax and Jacqueline. I've managed to actually SPEAK to one of John Steele's daughters and she remembers Peggy well. Alas, Peggy is no longer with us - she died a few years ago.
Well at least I can now stop looking down the Steele route.

Now back to the drawing board. I haven't heard any results from my letters to the Melbourne, Australia papers asking for any inf on Cecilia and Horace Smith's family.
Australia seems very difficult to delve into any records. Am I right? And with a name like Smith I feel I have vey little chance.
Can I ask where you might start with a name like Smith in Australia?

Thank you once again for your interest.
Cissy

Hello - in Jax's last message on 22 March, she listed Notice of death of Cecilia Ann Smith in the Melbourne Herald Sun newspaper.
It states in the Notice that Cecilia was the mother in law of Brian and Graeme, suggesting that one of her daughters married one of these men.
Again, according to the Notice, Cecilia had 4 daughters - Anita, Jennifer, Deborah and Jacqueline.

I am wondering whether anyone could look up a possible marriage in Australia for each of these daughters to a Graeme or a Brian. At least I might get an easier surname to search for.

This may be an even bigger ask than I can imagine, for I know absolutely nothing about Australian records.

Thank you all once again for your help.

Cissy